Marvel Cinematic Universe

Thanks to the people who butchered the last season of GoT, my interest from that franchise went to 0% after its last episode and never looked back ever since.
The story I heard is that they got a job at Disney, half-assed the last two seasons in order to put more effort into that and ended up losing the Disney deal when the seasons came out half-assed. Can anyone corroborate this story?
 
The story I heard is that they got a job at Disney, half-assed the last two seasons in order to put more effort into that and ended up losing the Disney deal when the seasons came out half-assed. Can anyone corroborate this story?
I always assumed that was a consequence of Disney changing their plans. Originally, Kathleen wanted to release one Star Wars film a year, and so she was promising everybody a trilogy. Then the Last Jedi killed the brand, and her plans changed from producing big budget flops to producing television shows with no publicly available metrics.
 
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I always assumed that was a consequence of Disney changing their plans. Originally, Kathleen wanted to release one Star Wars film a year, and so she was promising everybody a trilogy. Then the Last Jedi killed the brand, and her plans changed from producing big budget flops to producing television shows with no publicly available metrics.
It does not have to be just one reason, it can be a combination of reasons. They lost money on TLJ and they did not want to spend more on those that have already ruined their reputation. The "from the guys that made GoT" tagline quickly became "from the guys that ruined GoT". That cannot have helped even if there were other reasons.
 
It’s crazy how the MCU was omnipresent in popular culture for over ten years and then seemingly vanished overnight. The transition to producing a bunch of shows in 21/22 kind of bled off some of the franchise's momentum but arguably there just wasn’t a point to continue after Endgame. I mean, Endgame was the true ending and the later Phases come off as fanfiction trying to recapture the glory days when the MCU was a money-printing machine.
 
It’s crazy how the MCU was omnipresent in popular culture for over ten years and then seemingly vanished overnight. The transition to producing a bunch of shows in 21/22 kind of bled off some of the franchise's momentum but arguably there just wasn’t a point to continue after Endgame. I mean, Endgame was the true ending and the later Phases come off as fanfiction trying to recapture the glory days when the MCU was a money-printing machine.
As I said upthread, they had a decade+ long period of warm-up, vigorous intercourse, and a massive, earth-shattering climax with Infinity War/Endgame. At that point you need to have a cigarette, and then have a nicely satisfied rest. Instead they kept trying to push rope when their partner was ready for a nicely satisfied sleep.

The glaring flaw in Disney's plans for the MCU is the arrogance in believing that they can sustain interest, quality, and insane profitability until the end of time. Yes, the MCU made a ton of money, but it hit the finale. It took over a decade to get everyone invested, and then they reaped the rewards of their carefully planned movie blitz. The thing about a climax, though, it that it means the end. They titled the movie Endgame, they had to know that that was it, the big send off.

After that nobody has the energy or desire to continue with that same level of interest. You can't expect to bring people to a level of heart-attack inducing hype and hold them there for years upon years. You set yourself up for failure thinking that you can, especially when you killed or retired all your big draws as part of the climax.

The smart thing to do then would have been to focus on a nice steady drip feed of high quality content, a few modest shows here, a movie there, with low, personal stakes, modest budgets and conservative goals for profitability. Shows like Daredevil and movies like Homecoming were on the right track, they focused on low stakes and personal growth. No giant space apocalypse - just a mob boss controlling crime or 7/11 robbers having laser guns, which gives room for relatable stories of personal growth. Just nice stand alone movies that any normie can enjoy without knowing all the lore (but its better if you do) with that focus on quality.

The point is not to make tens of billions and break records, that won't happen and you'll waste money, the goal is to keep the IPs and connections with the audience alive. Sell some toys at Christmas, keep the idea of the IP at the back of everyone's minds, make enough to keep core talent around, and mothball the rest.

That way in ten years or so you can take off the dust cloths, warm up the engines and do the entire fucking thing again, essentially. But you have to let the field lay fallow between cash crops.
 
Wait aren't you guys super excited about the new FF movie where a weepy wetback stares blankly into the distance while his equine wife girlbosses Galactus to death with the help of Lady Surfer and the power of pms? I guess some people are just impossible to please.
I'm excited for Superman.

I haven't looked into it much but I heard it draws from All Star Superman which is one of my favorites. I already got a decent Long Halloween style Batman, if I get a decent All Star Superman too I might even smile.
 
Chile is going to kick out Communists in the next elections.
Hopefully they can erase all the Allende's clan for eternity, incluiding this fuck.
Pedro, i know you aren't here, but nobody cares about you here. We are real people fighting against corruption, unlike you, faggot.
Commie bitch just won the lefty primaries.

Which means either commies will win the presidential election, or they'll get roflstomped by literally any of the righty candidates.
 
Me reading reviews of Ironheart and finding out fucking Mephisto appears in the last episode:
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Today I finished all 7 episodes.
However I recommend watching it.
It is a fundamental lesson in what NOT to do when writing characters. So much so it should be shown in creative writing across the U.S.

Let's get down to it.

The first 3 oh my god are they BORING. Even the person whom I watched it with who normally likes Marvel shows said so.

Now getting into the 4-7.
I saw glimmers, flickers of good writing.
The heart of what makes Marvel Marvel shined through. The relationships, the heart, the human connection I saw it.
I loved some of the parts- when she FINALLY listens to her mom and they bond, when they watched Riri's dad. I found that missing relationship (especially father daughter what is missing in media nowadays) with her dad written beautifully.

Then you have the classic- oh the black chick dropped out! Then her daughter self teaching herself what looked like to be some Dark Hold energies very stretched to be believed.

I found many MANY of the characters to be monumentally stupid. Where I found myself addressing the screen- no shit, or it's obvious. (Speaks to immaturity of the writers.) I could go on and on about her immaturity and lack of growth.

It get's worse.
Do not open the spoiler if you do not wish to know the ending.

Riri sits across from Mephisto. She sits there, and what seems to be weighing the decision to bargain with Mephisto.
You think for a second that she will choose the struggle after what was a team, say FAMILY effort to built another suit. The great bonding experience with her family.
She seems to accept to move on from her friends death.

Does she?
Fuck no.

After witnessing Curly Cue (I cannot be bothered to remember the characters name) be completely corrupted by Mephisto's cloak she ACCEPTS and shakes Mephisto's hand.

At the end I proclaimed: "Fuck this show." I feel so frustrated, and disappointed.
The person who watched it with me agreed as well.
 
Today I finished all 7 episodes.
However I recommend watching it.
It is a fundamental lesson in what NOT to do when writing characters. So much so it should be shown in creative writing across the U.S.

Let's get down to it.

The first 3 oh my god are they BORING. Even the person whom I watched it with who normally likes Marvel shows said so.

Now getting into the 4-7.
I saw glimmers, flickers of good writing.
The heart of what makes Marvel Marvel shined through. The relationships, the heart, the human connection I saw it.
I loved some of the parts- when she FINALLY listens to her mom and they bond, when they watched Riri's dad. I found that missing relationship (especially father daughter what is missing in media nowadays) with her dad written beautifully.

Then you have the classic- oh the black chick dropped out! Then her daughter self teaching herself what looked like to be some Dark Hold energies very stretched to be believed.

I found many MANY of the characters to be monumentally stupid. Where I found myself addressing the screen- no shit, or it's obvious. (Speaks to immaturity of the writers.) I could go on and on about her immaturity and lack of growth.

It get's worse.
Do not open the spoiler if you do not wish to know the ending.

Riri sits across from Mephisto. She sits there, and what seems to be weighing the decision to bargain with Mephisto.
You think for a second that she will choose the struggle after what was a team, say FAMILY effort to built another suit. The great bonding experience with her family.
She seems to accept to move on from her friends death.

Does she?
Fuck no.

After witnessing Curly Cue (I cannot be bothered to remember the characters name) be completely corrupted by Mephisto's cloak she ACCEPTS and shakes Mephisto's hand.

At the end I proclaimed: "Fuck this show." I feel so frustrated, and disappointed.
The person who watched it with me agreed as well.
The writers took one look at the shitshow One More Day caused eighteen years ago and said, "Hold my beer."
 
Today I finished all 7 episodes.
However I recommend watching it.
It is a fundamental lesson in what NOT to do when writing characters. So much so it should be shown in creative writing across the U.S.

Let's get down to it.

The first 3 oh my god are they BORING. Even the person whom I watched it with who normally likes Marvel shows said so.

Now getting into the 4-7.
I saw glimmers, flickers of good writing.
The heart of what makes Marvel Marvel shined through. The relationships, the heart, the human connection I saw it.
I loved some of the parts- when she FINALLY listens to her mom and they bond, when they watched Riri's dad. I found that missing relationship (especially father daughter what is missing in media nowadays) with her dad written beautifully.

Then you have the classic- oh the black chick dropped out! Then her daughter self teaching herself what looked like to be some Dark Hold energies very stretched to be believed.

I found many MANY of the characters to be monumentally stupid. Where I found myself addressing the screen- no shit, or it's obvious. (Speaks to immaturity of the writers.) I could go on and on about her immaturity and lack of growth.

It get's worse.
Do not open the spoiler if you do not wish to know the ending.

Riri sits across from Mephisto. She sits there, and what seems to be weighing the decision to bargain with Mephisto.
You think for a second that she will choose the struggle after what was a team, say FAMILY effort to built another suit. The great bonding experience with her family.
She seems to accept to move on from her friends death.

Does she?
Fuck no.

After witnessing Curly Cue (I cannot be bothered to remember the characters name) be completely corrupted by Mephisto's cloak she ACCEPTS and shakes Mephisto's hand.

At the end I proclaimed: "Fuck this show." I feel so frustrated, and disappointed.
The person who watched it with me agreed as well.
Isn't it 6 episodes?
 
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