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Should be a wild four years.

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Yes. It was absolutely acceptable. Why? The Niihau incident.

Tl;dr: A Japanese soldier crash landed in Hawaii after Pearl Harbor and was able to effortlessly convince the Japanese immigrants on the island to turn traitor to the US. It was determined that there were enough Japanese American Immigrants that held FIERCE loyalty to the Japanese Emperor and Japanese Government that they would have absolutely, 100%, would have went full on sperglord on us, committing sabotage, suicide bombings, and spying on us 24x7. Supposedly Japan had already set plans in motion for this very situation but we're not allowed to talk about that as Japanese Americans are official victims and thus they can only ever be suffering innocent golden children wot never do nuffin' wrong and the US Government that put them into camps are only allowed to be comically evil supervillain nazi-analogues.

Was it the right move? Ask me again when we're in the midst of another world war and we need to find out if we should be oh, say, putting all the Jeets or Islamists into camps. (Hint: Yes, we absolutely should and absolutely will and no amount of crying white women will stop it.)

BTW, the camps were the nice option. In earlier eras of world history, they would have just been forced out of the country by gunpoint.
None of the major axis or allies countries during WWII had clean hands. We only think the UK and US were the heckin wholesome good boys because they were on the winning side and got to write history.
 
The problem is Massie is Kentucky. They have a republican government and a Dem Governor. That tells me they are cucks who think there is such a thing as both sides and balance. Also the strongest narratives against Massie are not being used by Trump. Trump is calling out he is blocking stuff, but not how he voted for Biden's agenda, he needs to hammer and be razor focused on how Massie empowered the Biden agenda and helps Dems over and over again. Thats not happening. He is making it about how Massie stood up to him, and that will resonate in a state with a Republican legislature and a Dem governor. All that said, its a house race, and I am a lazy fuck and didnt look up the make up of Massie's district. Given he is a libtard, I am guessing blood red.
 
I genuinely wonder who would vote for an Elon Musk party.
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Does Elon seriously think the progressive left will welcome him back? Reddit and lefty Twitter think he's on par with Hitler.

See that's what I don't get. It totes makes sense why people voted for or supported Don, for a bunch of reasons. But even hardcore MAGA didn't seem to trust Musk all the way. They might carry some water for him but I never saw any simping. I also assume most big Musk bros are either paid or fake or so far up the ass up the (bullshit) part of the VC tech industry.

Isn't Vivek running in Ohio tho? Like wtf is that about? He is so transparently an actor and a slime ball, probably also on the pay of the DoD or similar. Another fake ass techbro with a fake ass backstory. Who's voting for this guy?

I think Musk knows the left won't take him back but that it won't matter in the end. That's why he's pumping the "uniparty" despite being as deep state as it gets. Like I said with a post-American party, he's prepping out for when we give up the pretense of democracy and go all in on the police state.
 
You cannot fix the Third World. It is not worth dumping money into.
You can fix the third world......by teaching them how to use resources more efficiently. Dumping money and food at their table makes them lazy and incapable of making the necessary changes to lift themselves up out of poverty. Someone needs to teach them better ways of farming, designing city infrastructure, and how to allocate money and resources. If you just dump endless amount of gibs at their feet, they'll never learn those things, they'll just become lazy freeloading assholes who will never learn and who will always be dependent on someone else.
 
So the funny gotcha I thought would cute was that like 1/3rd of the photos are just Nazi Concentration camps and the "gotcha" was supposed to be the fact you cant tell the difference and I expected people to defend them as "not being that bad" nope you fuckers find new and innovative ways to drop the limbo bar lower, some of you reek so badly of "Id pass the patriot act 2.0 if I thought It meant id see 2 less brown people"
Comparing the Japanese American internment camps to concentration camps is an insult to the persecuted and oppressed. Within them there were 5,981 live births and only 1,862 deaths. More American soldiers died during the Bataan death march and Japanese prisoner of war camps then the interned did.

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Truly a place filled with nothing but suffering. To an extent the internment camps were a mistake because while a lot of the mainland Japanese residing in the United States were sent to them, the ones in Hawaii which had a more significant ethnic population was generally ignored (even though FDR was against such a decisions) for pragmatic economic reasons. Besides the Niihau incident which was previously listed, there was also the disastrous loyalty questionnaire given to the interned which didn't help matters. The seemingly worst aspect of the camps is that property was confiscated or stolen from those residing in them which while is something understandable to be upset about, the claimed terrible treatment of interned Japanese Americans is overblown.

It was World War 2, if the United States wanted to make death camps and systemically annihilate or exterminate a people it very easily could've done so.
 
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You can fix the third world......by teaching them how to use resources more efficiently. Dumping money and food at their table makes them lazy and incapable of making the necessary changes to lift themselves up out of poverty. Someone needs to teach them better ways of farming, designing city infrastructure, and how to allocate money and resources. If you just dump endless amount of gibs at their feet, they'll never learn those things, they'll just become lazy freeloading assholes who will never learn and who will always be dependent on someone else.
The British empire was a 100+ year experiment on "teaching them". See how that played out.

But this time it will be different!

Any people who failed to create farming on their own will NEVER be civilized. Point blank. Farming over multiple generations enforces the cultural, behavioral, and genetic norms that allow cooperation and civilization to form. It forms the foundational skills of "plan ahead for tomorrow", "do hard work now to resist hard ship for the future" "time management" and most importantly "do shit that I dont want to do for a greater good".
 
We've been trying for over 200 years now. At some point you're going to have to accept that there might be something to that whole IQ thing.
Not quite. All we do is toss free shit at their feet. So they never learn shit, they just expect whitey to keep up the donations.

I've seen countries in Asia that were able to pull themselves up. Designing new infrastructure, figuring how to allocate resources, it's just not something that can be done with infinite gibs.

And in places like Africa, there's experts who see how infinite gibs is ruining their own farmers who cannot compete.
 
Their support for Israel comes from a misunderstanding; a mistranslation of the Bible where they think if they bless Israel, God will bless them. God said that to Abraham, the person, not the Israelites. Instead, the Israelites' lack of faith almost got God to annihilate them when He was talking shop with Moses atop Mount Sinai. Of course, God was just supposedly pulling Moses' leg, but the fact that God was one step away from annihilating the Israelites if it hadn't been for Moses' intervention showed that they are far from the same people that God made that promise to.

The fact that boomer evangelicals make up their minds on who to support based on bullshit mistranslations of Scripture goes to show how fucked the older generations were in their thinking. A Renaissance or Enlightenment monarch would judge who to ally with and who to fight based on how each potential ally or enemy can work for their influence. Evangelicals toss support behind Christ-hating Israelis because they mistranslate their own Scripture; it'd make more sense if they support the Israelis because they're secular Europeans colonizing a theocratic shithole, and that they're developing an economy that isn't just oil and bayonet rule, but no.

The fact that someone like Ted Cruz had that misconception in his head when he was talking to Tucker Carlson goes to show how this stupidity has infiltrated even the highest offices of the land.
For a look at how boomer evangelicals think that doesn't require hours of research, just check out the comment section of videos from their favored media & sources, like the Christian Broadcasting Network (founded by Pat Robertson, one of the King Televangelists from back in the day alongside people like Jerry Falwell and John Hagee, challenged Bush Sr. for the GOP nomination in '88 ). Here's just one example, one that even specifically talks about supersessionism/replacement theology (you know, the standard Christian position on God's covenant post-Christ until shabbos goyim & their kike overlords successfully infiltrated both the modern Catholic Church via Vatican II and the Protestant churches via the popularization of modern Evangelicalism & Christian Zionism). Some choice comments...

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To be blunt, these people are hopeless niggercattle, the right-wing equivalent to niggers and beaners entirely dependent on welfare. They're cleaner & have jobs perhaps, but their mental plantation binds them completely and they will never, ever waver in their loyalty to Israel, which is certainly greater than that of the supposedly most fanatical Ultra-Orthodox Jews (Haredim, who ironically are basically the niggers of Israel and really, REALLY don't want to die for that country; unlike these shabbos goyim who would gladly send their own children & grandchildren to shed blood for the Zionist state). Any serious challenge to the worldview instilled by the pastors on TV and in megachurches just gets them to mentally shut down & terminate the conversation in favor of repeating certain slogans or telling you that you don't understand the truth. I can't even really consider these zioboomers Christian anymore, they don't worship Christ really, but the Jews instead.

And if you think the modern GOP sucks, well, I won't dispute that but I will say that it used to be worse. These niggercattle were a very influential faction within the Republican coalition from the '80s until about 2012 (the Bush years crippled them and made them radioactive to virtually everyone under the age of 30 at the time, but their influence lingered for some time yet) and especially the Trump years. They had a total lock on Republican social & foreign policy especially back then, working closely with the neocons (warhawks, mostly Jews and/or 'former' Trotskyists) on the latter front, though in standard kike:goy exchange fashion, the neocons didn't return the favor when it came to pet Evangelical social issues like abortion & gay marriage (most infamously, Cheney had a lesbo daughter, while guys like Wolfowitz were pretty quiet on the culture war front even as they called for bombing everything in sight abroad; Bill Kristol, who I was surprised to learn is still alive, has also shuttered the Weekly Standard and is now spouting leftard talking points on all the social issues to own Drumpf).

The only hope is that they're dying off while the younger generations of Evangelicals, Christians in general really, think they're cringe retards and don't tend to have any great affection for Israel. Their malignant influence has been waning since 2008 and took some really hard hits in '12-'16, forcing the selection of Pence as Trump's running mate was one of the last moves they were able to pull off in a high-stakes national race. You can see some of the younger types pushing back on their braindead elders a bit in the same comment section.

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Not quite. All we do is toss free shit at their feet. So they never learn shit, they just expect whitey to keep up the donations.

I've seen countries in Asia that were able to pull themselves up. Designing new infrastructure, figuring how to allocate resources, it's just not something that can be done with infinite gibs.

And in places like Africa, there's experts who see how infinite gibs is ruining their own farmers who cannot compete.
Those Asian countries had farming, they worked the rice paddies. They were capable of Civilization, they met the pre requisites.
 
Truly a place filled with nothing but suffering. To an extent the internment camps were a mistake because while a lot of the mainland Japanese residing in the United States were sent to them, the ones in Hawaii which had a more significant ethnic population was generally ignored, even though FDR was against such a decision, for pragmatic economic reasons. Besides the Niihau incident which was previously listed, there was also the disastrous loyalty questionnaire given to the interned which didn't help matters. The seemingly worst legacy of the camps is that property was confiscated or stolen from those residing in them which while is something understandable to be upset about it the treatment of interned Japanese Americans and the claims they make are overblown.

It was World War 2, if the United States wanted to make death camps and systemically annihilate or exterminate a people it very easily could've done so.
Funny enough it turns out that vast majority of the fresh produce grown in Cali, Oregon and Washington state where owned by US Japanese family's (and the most productive VIctory gardens where in the Interment camps). So FDR no only screwed over the rest of the US causing rationing (cause the farms were shutdown/left to go wide) we could have had a whole Japan descendent farming network.
 
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