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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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A-Logato said:
If the limit is reduced to only 5k a year like what is being discussed for ISA's and your getting taxed on it then honestly what would even be the point of having one? I don't even think their stupid at this point, I think the goal of the government is to never allow you to own a home (young people using ISA's as a way to buy a first home is a very large amount of people setting up ISA's).

This being one big scheme to try get people to invest into UK stocks is retarded. Not only is it too difficult and too much effort for most people. But why would anyone invest in UK stocks right now? Most companies have left at this point so you would end up investing in American stocks which defeats the purpose of this whole thing.
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The reason is that Reeves has been lobbied by dodgy investment platforms (the like that people on Reddit used)

Not sure what the difference between lobbying and corruption is
 
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The reason is that Reeves has been lobbied by dodgy investment platforms (the like that people on Reddit used)

Not sure what the difference between lobbying and corruption is
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The forerunner to this in Wales was that Cooke & Arkwright (Dodgy & Corrupt) were going to effectively become the national 'Landlords' of the country with the Senedd owning the controlling stake in the company.

All property would be state-owned and managed with the then First Minister, Mark 'Drippy' Drakeford, being given the right to own the house that people had already paid for.

Thankfully, Eluned 'Loony' Morgan seems to have shelved this for now.
 
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Otterly said:
It’s only possible for new builds and even then, they don’t do it. It’s like the heat pump nonsense they push - very free w houses are built to make it work and there’s nowhere to put the units. And we don’t need it 90% of the year
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Do you even need them 10% of the year? I've lived through a couple of London summer heatwaves and the one I spent in an apartment was potentially awful. But with fans and bowls of ice it was ok. The one I spent in a house was completely fine, because the house, especially the downstairs, was cool in spite of the high temperatures outside. Then the next slew of summers were just shit so the fans stayed in the attic.

You could honestly go years without ever needing AC if you had it. Then it would be useful for about 5 weeks each for a couple of years, then it's back to total disuse for the rest of the decade.
 
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Made In Wales said:
Bank of England to redesign banknotes - and wants your help (but Churchill might be left off future banknotes...)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4nn1d2vzxo Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/h35aA

GB News take on this story:

https://www.gbnews.com/money/bank-of-england-winston-churchill-banknotes-diversity Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/HPTnz
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I think the important thing is that we change our bank notes so often that the average person can't tell if they have been handed a fake.
 
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They were once men said:
people need to realize that we're actually a very poor country but the government seems to think we're as rich as we where back during the empire days. They could axe shit like foreign aid or other useless garbage but they won't, they'd rather tax ppl to oblivion.
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Reform would get a lot of votes if they came out and said "We're stopping all foreign aid. That money is needed for our country and until we can fix ourselves we can't afford to give it away" Foreign aid isn't popular and we know it's all bribery money they black hole as soon as it arrives.
Otterly said:
The houses are not easy to retrofit. Most have no space outside to put the external unit - terraces etc wouldn’t be possible. Window units are out because most windows hinge not sash these days (and you’ll get burgled.)
It’s only possible for new builds and even then, they don’t do it. It’s like the heat pump nonsense they push - very free w houses are built to make it work and there’s nowhere to put the units. And we don’t need it 90% of the year
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Public spaces are air conditioned as well. If you really want it you can go into any shop and it will be cool inside.
Made In Wales said:
Bank of England to redesign banknotes - and wants your help (but Churchill might be left off future banknotes...)
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Which nog or paki are they going to put on it?
 
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Kofi Drinka said:
Public spaces are air conditioned as well. If you really want it you can go into any shop and it will be cool inside.
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Imagine having that luxury in the comfort of your own home, you can control when it turns on, when it turns off and what temperature it cools to. You have to ask yourself, is your comfort worth the money?
 
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Spud said:
Imagine having that luxury in the comfort of your own home, you can control when it turns on, when it turns off and what temperature it cools to. You have to ask yourself, is your comfort worth the money?
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I don't have to imagine. It's useful but not essential. Freezing a big bottle of water and putting it in front of a fan does the job with less noise. The noise from ACs give me a headache after a while.

Buy those really big bottles of water and rotate them in the freezer. It's cheaper, less noisy and doesn't require having the builders in. The thread is talking about the country struggling to make ends meet and the suggestion is to spend thousands on remodeling your home for 2 weeks of heat a year.
 
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Spud said:
Imagine having that luxury in the comfort of your own home, you can control when it turns on, when it turns off and what temperature it cools to. You have to ask yourself, is your comfort worth the money?
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When I lived somewhere further south I got a quote for fitting whole house AC, or as best as they could do, and it was well over ten grand even a few years ago. Whether it’s worth it or not that’s not an amount I have for anything non essential, so suffer we do. Here isn’t so bad, we only have a few days a year where it’s hot.
@Overly Serious I propose James cook for the notes.
 
Otterly said:
When I lived somewhere further south I got a quote for fitting whole house AC, or as best as they could do, and it was well over ten grand even a few years ago. Whether it’s worth it or not that’s not an amount I have for anything non essential, so suffer we do. Here isn’t so bad, we only have a few days a year where it’s hot.
@Overly Serious I propose James cook for the notes.
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I honestly wouldn't want it. One place I worked, the management got quotes for AC for the office and took a vote amongst the staff as to whether we'd like it or not and we turned it down. There are different ratings for the AC on how much the air is recylcled back into the building and honestly we decided we'd stick with windows we could open and fresh air, even if hotter. We mostly found Air Conditioned buildings to be stuffy and less comfortable and lead to more sickness. There's nothing like a breeze from the window. I'd feel the same at home.

Though this entire conversation is reminding me of the George Alexopolous cartoon (I like his cartoons)
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Amusing but not really fair. Burgers don't really understand that our energy costs are double what they pay and our buildings are, at least the older ones, brick things with cavities and designed to moderate heat. Not so confident in newer builds though. A builder doing some work for me last year was talking about new builds they were putting up near me and saying they were extremely slipshod and he thought they wouldn't last well.

Otterly said:
Not since decimalisation
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Decimalisation was a mistake and a concession to the less intelligent.
 
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A topic of small talk ("Oof, hot innit?") has been overblown into this weird non-issue
I paid 27 quid for a nice fan that does the job on the weakest setting and will serve a purpose beyond this slight bout of 25c+ heat.
 
It’s 13c and raining here and I’ve got thick woolly socks on.
What summer?
 
Kofi Drinka said:
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£360 (plus a 10% discount on checkout atm so £324) for a 3 in 1 and costs roughly 24p an hour. I get your point if you going full house like Mrs. @Otterly was looking at but I only need to cool one room not a whole house and we have the means for that instead of needing to subject oneself to insufferable heat and humidity. I have been in buildings with air con and buildings without and I will pick air con every time. 'ate the 'eat, 'ate the 'umidity love me cool air.
 
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Spud said:
£360 (plus a 10% discount on checkout atm so £324) for a 3 in 1 and costs roughly 24p an hour. I get your point if you going full house like Mrs. @Otterly was looking at but I only need to cool one room not a whole house and we have the means for that instead of needing to subject oneself to insufferable heat and humidity. I have been in buildings with air con and buildings without and I will pick air con every time. 'ate the 'eat, 'ate the 'umidity love me cool air.
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They're large and noisy. The won't cool a big room and if you have a family or pets you're all stuck in the same small space together for 2 weeks. It's like a caravan holiday where it rains all week long and no one wants those family fights again.
 
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Two great men, sadly under-represented by history, should be on these new banknotes:

Alexander Lambert who dived heroically into the flooded Severn Tunnel in 1880 in order to save navvies from drowning.

Albert Ball (Junior) who was a World War I fighter pilot and one of the bravest airmen of British history.

I didn't learn about either man in History, but from listening to the prog band 'Big Big Train'


 
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