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[Xarpho's Return]

Austin would have probably been better off keeping the land as a secondary airport like Houston and Dallas did with Hobby Airport and Love Field, especially considering how undersized AUS is and how much land Texas has for new housing.

I don't think Mueller Airport would've had enough volume to actually work as a full secondary airport, plus it was close to downtown. There were rumors that no building in Austin can be taller than the capitol building (not true, just that there must be certain angles where it has to be visible) but I think the real reason was that Mueller was just too close to downtown (3 miles compared to Love's five and Hobby's nine).

Yes, it's only around a kilometer walk to the grocery store from the southern houses, but that's about the same as a traditional suburb with larger houses and yards. All the downsides of density with none of the benefits.

It's just another cheap suburb meant for transplants and immigrants where maximizing land usage was the #1 priority for the developer, though with a little more variation in architecture than usual.

Yeah but that only illustrates how impractical it is to have residential near commercial the way urbanists want. Short of older, denser cities where supermarkets either don't exist (Manhattan) or are small and crappy (but more numerous) than their suburban counterparts (Philadelphia), a normal, large supermarket is going to suck the food dollars out of a given area. Convenience stores can be used as in-fill, but neighborhood stores will never get the numbers they need from getting buried in side streets. (Usually the neighborhood convenience store was on the side of the neighborhood accessible and visible from larger roads). There are only so many restaurants you can have, most of those need some sort of help from outside the neighborhood to really thrive, and most of the more useful "service" tenants would struggle under the high rent mixed-use demands (and more difficult parking). You'll never get everything you want in your little walkable bubble (even if you allowed for "no, I MUST eat the closest Mexican restaurant to me even if it tastes like actual shit"-type retardation) unless there's some unusual situation like a centralized shopping mall with some residential units built into it, and even then, most of the traffic is coming from outside anyway.

Some fifteen miles away, there's The Domain, the de facto dominant shopping mall of north Austin, where your typical higher-end mall shops (Apple, Coach, H&M) sit along parking access alleys masquerading as "streets" with apartments built above them. But in addition to being noisy from restaurants and other options, the Domain brings in people from all over Austin. It's wholly antithetical to the "city"...but then again, these people idolize universities, which have the same highly-manicured, highly-controlled (if not more so), centralized spots.

The thing that cities excel at is being able to bring other people in (primarily by car, at least in America), feeding their economic engine, and through both the out-of-towners and residents alike, create a bunch of stores, restaurants, and attractions. That is only possible through the cross-pollination of traveling in and around the city. What parts of New York is turning into is the same thing you get in third-world cities, your only retail options are shitty food stores and the occasional local restaurant because there isn't that cross-pollination happening.

 

[Lovely Kin]

What about the Methhead Tourists?

Fortunately, we don't have those. I could only imagine the horrors.

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Dear god that looks like hell. Those homes are extremely cramped. Not even a backyard space to have fun with your family and friends, or even enough room in the driveway to hangout with someone.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

The problem with Mueller is that almost all of the houses are tiny and have no land. Most of them are only 25-30 feet wide and they're not cheap.

There's very little private green space; the only green space is parks.

@quaawaa That’s what bothers me about it. There are no backyards and small front yards.

Meanwhile, Windsor Park, the neighborhood north of it, was built in the 1950’s with homeowners in mind, and this is the neighborhood:

Dear god that looks like hell. Those homes are extremely cramped. Not even a backyard space to have fun with your family and friends, or even enough room in the driveway to hangout with someone.

The houses all laid out like packed sardines. Some of the houses have small backyards but it’s not much. I think people fall for it because of how cute the houses look. They should have built a bunch of malls or an amusement park there instead.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Meanwhile, Windsor Park, the neighborhood north of it, was built in the 1950’s with homeowners in mind, and this is the neighborhood:

Is that a luxury treehouse or a shitty "accessory unit"? Both?

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

Is that a luxury treehouse or a shitty "accessory unit"? Both?

I think it’s a studio. It doesn’t appear to have a tree going through it.

 

[Meriasek]

The only thing they got right is that you should be able to set up businesses anywhere, but this is literally all that takes to achieve 15-minute "cities".

You'd think that, but the fun part is that most euro cities are basically 15 minute cities already. So the dream has been achieved, right? Nope, urbanists subtly amend that definition to require the exclusion of cars, so only cities like Paris or maybe soon Berlin actually get that status, even though every necessity is always reachable within 15 minutes by any form of transport. They don't like saying it publicly and hide it in white papers they don't put up for download unless requested, because they know it's stupid and will not be popular, but that's how they work.
15 minute city to them means every necessity is reached within 15 minutes by bike or public transport AND cars are NOT an option.
Some urbanist institute posted a map on LinkedIn with "15 minute index" marks for each city. My city had highest marks, and I asked why it wasn't a considered a 15 minute city when clearly it fulfilled the requirement of 15 minute radii everywhere. They didn't state it, just linked to their page and paper that required your email to get it, and offered to send it to me directly. I declined because I didn't want to give them my email on principle for something they could have just told me directly, but they refused to openly state it.
15 minute cities, to them, require the banning of private cars as a viable form of transportation.
The idea that everything is reachable in a 15 minute radius is good. Most cities have that anyway, at least here. But the urbanists hide in that a de facto ban on cars.

 

[quaawaa]

Trump just forced Vietnam to import American-made SUVs:

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It is my opinion that the SUV or, as it is sometimes referred to, Large Engine Vehicle, which does so well in the United States, will be a wonderful addition to the various product lines within Vietnam.

/r/fuckcars on suicide watch.

 

[Unique Username KF]

Trump just forced Vietnam to import American-made SUVs:
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/r/fuckcars on suicide watch.

lol no one has ever called an SUV a Large Engine Vehicle/LEV

 

[FPTMIU]

lol no one has ever called an SUV a Large Engine Vehicle/LEV

Trump does that sometimes where he will say he personally calls something in a way literally nobody in human history has ever called it. Maybe it's a sales psychology thing that he just kept using?

 

[conodont]

>go to r/fuckcars
>search "porn"
>laugh

I legitimately couldn't contain my laughter at this. It is just a mess of r/fuckcars cant and I somehow cannot believe that this person is dead serious.

 

[quaawaa]

lol no one has ever called an SUV a Large Engine Vehicle/LEV

Vietnam taxes engine displacement; Large Engine Vehicle is probably a translated Vietnamese term. Trump probably got them to drop the tax which will make American cars much more competitive.

Japan came up with the idea of taxing displacement in the 1950s because Japanese manufacturers made small turbo engines while American manufacturers made large naturally aspirated engines. It's a protectionist regulation, not a fuel economy or environmental rule. Many other countries copied them, either to keep out American competition (Europe) or just copying their neighbors as they developed (Asia).

 

[Yamamura]

Honda says the engine choice in the original NSX was because they did the math and what not regarding the power to weight ratio, but deep down I feel like the displacement tax had a lot to do with it. A car that looks the way the NSX does not look like it should have a v6.

But when the Japanese/Germans do make v8s/v10s they are amazing. It reminds me of those martial arts tropes where they're handicapping themselves by weighing down their legs, but in this case, taxes.

 

[Rubick]

Trump just forced Vietnam to import American-made SUVs:

Don't see them being very popular. On the other hand small pick-up's that Americans used to make in 80's and early 90's would sell like hot cakes especially prized as low as possible.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

sometimes where he will say he personally calls something in a way literally nobody in human history has ever called it.

Many such cases.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

it's funny that many autistic people like trains.

yet trains are several things autistic people don't like.

trains are loud. many autistic people can't stand loud sounds (though some make a pass for certain sounds they like, or even have sensory aversion to only really quiet sound... but many do hate high decibel sounds with a wide range of inharmonic frequencies specifically)

trains were designed by someone else's rules. while many autistic people do like rules, they like rules on their terms and don't like being forced into someone else's routine. you know what's predictable and rigid? your route to work in your car.

trains force you into passenger carriages/cars with strangers, sometimes with very little room to spread your legs or even chairs for you that day, surrounded by everyone's smells, plus another autistic person shushing you because your stims give him sensory overload.

trains may not go to the retro synthesizer shop or the maker space. they might not even go to your college or work. trains might go from the places you don't want to live to the places you won't ever work.

and trains are old fashioned. they are older than cars.

and you can't take them apart yourself to see how they work.

reddit spacing

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Some urbanist institute posted a map on LinkedIn with "15 minute index" marks for each city. My city had highest marks, and I asked why it wasn't a considered a 15 minute city when clearly it fulfilled the requirement of 15 minute radii everywhere. They didn't state it, just linked to their page and paper that required your email to get it, and offered to send it to me directly. I declined because I didn't want to give them my email on principle for something they could have just told me directly, but they refused to openly state it.

There is no answer. The "just read this paper" / "watch this video" is the go-to when they're not sperging about killing children/them or calling you a Nazi.

>go to r/fuckcars
>search "porn"
>laugh

I legitimately couldn't contain my laughter at this. It is just a mess of r/fuckcars cant and I somehow cannot believe that this person is dead serious.

The Venn diagram between "coomers/gays/degenerates" and "/r/fuckcars" users is a massive overlap.

it's funny that many autistic people like trains.

yet trains are several things autistic people don't like.

trains are loud. many autistic people can't stand loud sounds (though some make a pass for certain sounds they like, or even have sensory aversion to only really quiet sound... but many do hate high decibel sounds with a wide range of inharmonic frequencies specifically)

trains were designed by someone else's rules. while many autistic people do like rules, they like rules on their terms and don't like being forced into someone else's routine. you know what's predictable and rigid? your route to work in your car.

trains force you into passenger carriages/cars with strangers, sometimes with very little room to spread your legs or even chairs for you that day, surrounded by everyone's smells, plus another autistic person shushing you because your stims give him sensory overload.

trains may not go to the retro synthesizer shop or the maker space. they might not even go to your college or work. trains might go from the places you don't want to live to the places you won't ever work.

and trains are old fashioned. they are older than cars.

and you can't take them apart yourself to see how they work.

You're confusing urbanists and autism. True train autism does not actually like riding trains. They may like the maps (squiggly colored lines!) and the rolling stock, but not actually riding trains themselves. Autism can catalog things, so when it comes to freight trains there's the gondola cars, boxcars, "cattle cars" (autoracks), tank cars, hopper cars, flat cars, "piggyback cars" (shipping containers stacked two high), caboose (rare in the 1990s, rarer now), and other stuff that books didn't mention (coil cars).

Urbanism is a flavor/off-shoot of modern leftism. If you're closer to the "true believer" side, no one there actually enjoys riding trains, either, and their reason is some combination of virtue-signaling/outright masochism, refusing to acknowledge how shitty things are. If you're closer to the "urban fantasy" side, trains are a means to an end, the path of least resistance to where they want to go.

"Urban fantasy" urbanists would probably be happiest in what amounts to a shopping mall except they cannot afford the rents that the residences there demand. "True believer" urbanists will never be happy as long as you are, and should be dealt with accordingly.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

True train autism does not actually like riding trains.

That reminded me, a while ago Youtube recommend me a bus autist, some brown British lad who really, really loves buses, but he very specifically enjoys riding them and talking about the ride experience. So I think there are a substantial portion of these autists who do enjoy riding their public transportation fixations.

Something that stood out to me about this bus autist is he doesn't like the new EV buses because they don't sound the same as diesel, something urbanists would likely get mad at him for preferring fossil fuels.

And while I was finding Network Nathan's channel I stumbled across a more conventional bus autist who coincidentally is also brown. This one also enjoys riding the bus.

 

[Lovely Kin]

I legitimately couldn't contain my laughter at this. It is just a mess of r/fuckcars cant and I somehow cannot believe that this person is dead serious.

Welcome to the magic of reddit, where everyone is dead serious and makes ridiculous analogies with a mixture of porn addiction.

 

[FPTMIU]

it's funny that many autistic people like trains.

yet trains are several things autistic people don't like.

trains are loud. many autistic people can't stand loud sounds (though some make a pass for certain sounds they like, or even have sensory aversion to only really quiet sound... but many do hate high decibel sounds with a wide range of inharmonic frequencies specifically)

trains were designed by someone else's rules. while many autistic people do like rules, they like rules on their terms and don't like being forced into someone else's routine. you know what's predictable and rigid? your route to work in your car.

trains force you into passenger carriages/cars with strangers, sometimes with very little room to spread your legs or even chairs for you that day, surrounded by everyone's smells, plus another autistic person shushing you because your stims give him sensory overload.

trains may not go to the retro synthesizer shop or the maker space. they might not even go to your college or work. trains might go from the places you don't want to live to the places you won't ever work.

and trains are old fashioned. they are older than cars.

and you can't take them apart yourself to see how they work.

I think you are confusing stereotypes for facts. The idea that autistic people like trains is a stereotype more than it is anything genuine. Maybe it's common that they like model trains, but model trains are fun regardless of autism

Also you are making absolute statements on autism, which in reality is extremely poorly defined. Autism, especially in it's modern definition, can mean almost anything. It doesn't have a set list of symptoms that are universally applicable to everyone who has it.

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

I think you are confusing stereotypes for facts. The idea that autistic people like trains is a stereotype more than it is anything genuine. Maybe it's common that they like model trains, but model trains are fun regardless of autism

Also you are making absolute statements on autism, which in reality is extremely poorly defined. Autism, especially in it's modern definition, can mean almost anything. It doesn't have a set list of symptoms that are universally applicable to everyone who has it.

DSM-V is unnecessary when we have Sonic, Star Trek, and Thomas the Tank Engine. Calm down.