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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
and for temporary relief,run your wrists under the cold tap and get them good and chilly
That's practically been a lifesaver for me here at times over in the USA. I get nasty migraines in the heat at times and that, an ice pack, and some cold water really help.
and then keep the windows closed for as long as it remains cooler indoors than out.
I'd add to keep the blinds drawn a bit too if you can. A little sun goes a long way in summer, and a lot of sun goes a really long way.
And again, and again, and again, and again. I hate taxes.
Have you considered throwing a bunch of tea into London harbor in protest at this unjust taxation? Its what we Americans did and I'd say it worked out great for us in the end since we traded horribly unjust rule for only somewhat unjust rule.
Americans can't resist coming into the thread and making an arse of themselves can they?
I resent that remark. I make an ass of myself just fine without this thread.
Decimalisation was a mistake and a concession to the less intelligent.
As opposed to the nonsense I encounter whenever I re-read the Hornblower novels? You guys are so weird you thought having a currency named "guinea" wasn't horribly degrading.
Clocks and Calendars always end in 12. There isn't 12, 24, 36, 48 to deal with. Calendars are a mess too. They need to share the days evenly instead of this crazy format we have now.
Well, you see, there was this guy named Gaius Julius who really wanted to make his mark on the world and so he decided to add a day to the month named after his family. This made a great many people upset but unfortunately after they killed him they were too lazy to undo the change.
 
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Have you considered throwing a bunch of tea into London harbor in protest at this unjust taxation? Its what we Americans did and I'd say it worked out great for us in the end since we traded horribly unjust rule for only somewhat unjust rule.
My favourite thing about the American War for Independence, was that it was just unreasonable total retard war. Shit is hilarious.
"WE WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE!"
'Okay'
"WE WANT NO TAXES!"
'I mean...less maybe, will you stop being dicks now?'
"NO, DIE!"

Founding Fathers literally just mashed their balls into the Kings face over and over again. An entire country built on 'haha get fucked' from a bunch of over educated frat bros.
 
Loony Solar Farm plans upset Conservationists - why aren't the Green Party standing up for the countryside anymore?

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/RI2M8
Since the greens have never had a success, and politicians nowadays lack creativity, they just mimic the successful green parties in other countries (as opposed to just copying the past successes of your party a la Reagan worship in America and Thatcher worship in the UK respective right-wings) For instance, the anti-nuclear UK green party is just copying the German green party.
 
Since the greens have never had a success, and politicians nowadays lack creativity, they just mimic the successful green parties in other countries (as opposed to just copying the past successes of your party a la Reagan worship in America and Thatcher worship in the UK respective right-wings) For instance, the anti-nuclear UK green party is just copying the German green party.
Good point.

I was very pro-environment as a kid (idealistic, 'get green') and I still believe in protecting the countryside and conserving it for the next generation.

Somewhere along the line, we went from WWF type 'Winnie The Pooh' (cuddly) environmentalism to angry 'Cocaine Bear' woke bollocks.

I half expect Carla Denayer to one day shout out in Parliament:

'Build a wind farm on Stonehenge, and make it lame and gay!'

Captain Planet would be spinning in his grave today... or banging the two chicks whilst the boys virtue signal and cry over mean tweets and hurty words from 'Loot & Plunder',
 
Have you considered throwing a bunch of tea into London harbor in protest at this unjust taxation? Its what we Americans did and I'd say it worked out great for us in the end since we traded horribly unjust rule for only somewhat unjust rule.
I don't understand why you keep coming into the British thread? Is this the case of that thing where a guy is so homophobic that he loves getting fisted and fucked in the ass and is actually a huge faggot..? So, Snek.. are you a huge Anglo -lover? You're in a safe place to come out, don't be ashamed.
 
Remind me what the tax rate was at that point?
Pre-independence Americans had a 1.5% income tax whereas Britons had a 7% income tax. However most of the taxes we extracted from them were in other areas, like property taxes (which they never got rid of and still apply in the same way), poll tax, and excise duties. The main thing that pissed them off was the back-2-back introduction of new ones: Sugar tax (sugar, molasses, wine, coffee, textiles), Stamp Act (printed materials), Townshend tax (import tax, stuff like glass and tea).

They had a repeat of history as not too long after independence violently trying to suppress a revolt over taxes caused by the funding of a fairly expensive war (Whiskey rebellion). They also implemented import tariffs and the aforementioned property taxes.
 
They had a repeat of history as not too long after independence violently trying to suppress a revolt over taxes caused by the funding of a fairly expensive war (Whiskey rebellion). They also implemented import tariffs and the aforementioned property taxes.
It's also a funny historical fact that we anglos tried and executed one of our kings because we decided he was a criminal, how many merimutt presidents have had the same fate? None ever will, because muh imperial presidency lol, muttmericans are subject to greater tyranny under the their scrap of paper constitution than we ever will be under our Parliamentary Sovereignty, makes you proud to be bri'ish.
 
She has to have dirt on him, having been put in a position she should never have been given.
I think it's too much of an overestimation of the capabilities of these people that they have any Machiavellian/scheming bones in their body. Reeves was picked because she has a PPE from Oxford, a degree in economics from the London school of economics, and worked for the bank of England prior to politics. On paper she should be good at her job, but she's operating in a system that prioritises politicking and optics over efficiency and actually doing something so she's effectively handicapped because she not only has to not piss off the populace but she's probably made acutely aware that a bad performance for Labour also deprives a ton of MPs of their jobs (as MPs) and also doesn't reflect well on her own future job prospects. She isn't even hated amongst partisan lines, she gets shit thrown at her from all sides over the positional equivalent of a death sentence.

All that said, I could still be being too kind to her in my assessment of why she can't do a good job, but otherwise no, I don't think she has dirt on Starmer. I think the idea of their being any noteworthy dirt on him is kind of optimistic too, I can only imagine something on the same level as partygate.
 
£22billion black hole. £12 billion a year solely on benefits to people not born here.

Start with that and find the other £10 billion by deporting anyone arriving here with no visa and billing the country you're sending them back to, France, overwhelmingly. Apparently we can't send them back to their shithole of origin. Fine. Send them back to the last safe country they were in.

Then send the forensic accounts to the NHS to absolutely fucking gut them. Destroy their tender service and take it out their hands.

Fucking simple. My degree is in Podiatry. I don't have a post grad degree. I worked for a bank for a short time but not in corporate banking.

There, I solved it. I'll give you all tax drops and put more money in your pockets but not to worry lads and girls, pints are on me.

Oh and foreign aid can get in the fucking bin and all. It's a sick disgusting offense we've no money to make basic healthcare in the reach of normal people but we can spaff away gobs of money propping up morally bankrupt shitheaps, looking after Nbugu and Mohammed
 
Reeves knew the craic when she scuttled off to Davos to receive her orders. It's never nice seeing a person cry, however she's not an actual person. Having gone to Davos and signed up to the WEFs bullshit, she's relinquished her humanity.
It's always nice to see my enemies suffer. If they're crying it's even better. These people will have your children raped and murdered then lock you up for being upset. Zero empathy for monsters.
£22billion black hole. £12 billion a year solely on benefits to people not born here.

Start with that and find the other £10 billion by deporting anyone arriving here with no visa and billing the country you're sending them back to, France, overwhelmingly. Apparently we can't send them back to their shithole of origin. Fine. Send them back to the last safe country they were in.

Then send the forensic accounts to the NHS to absolutely fucking gut them. Destroy their tender service and take it out their hands.

Fucking simple. My degree is in Podiatry. I don't have a post grad degree. I worked for a bank for a short time but not in corporate banking.

There, I solved it. I'll give you all tax drops and put more money in your pockets but not to worry lads and girls, pints are on me.

Oh and foreign aid can get in the fucking bin and all. It's a sick disgusting offense we've no money to make basic healthcare in the reach of normal people but we can spaff away gobs of money propping up morally bankrupt shitheaps, looking after Nbugu and Mohammed
Careful, you're talking sense. Knock on the door in the morning.
 
I throw the word around a lot on the farms, but Diane Abbott is by far the dumbest nigger in British politics. All the stupid shit she does and has already done, she still somehow remains an MP. Is it because she is black? I can't imagine a white MP getting away with the same.
The sad truth is there was slightly more of a brain in Diane decades ago but these days she recognises that to keep getting elected in her constituency she basically just has to whine about racial grievances and that's it.

They won't replace her because that area will vote Diane Abbott in till she's dead and even the next election only the fact that a lot who vote for her can only fill in a box not write down her name will stop her winning again.

Also if I hear one more Labour MP, almost all female annoyingly, say, "no disability charity in the country backed the bill as it was" I will lose it. No shit they didn't, the disabled charities will NEVER support that. It's not some sort of intellectual trump card that they did not do so, it's in fact a sign there might have been something worthwhile in there.

FUCK.
 
Isn't lying to the government considered actual fraud?
Depends in what capacity. It usually becomes illegal when it's presented as fact in parliament or at a committee or inquiry. At the inquiry stage, it's equivalent to perjury in a court.

Either way, it's not fraud if it's one of us. Especially not when your entire election manifesto and framework for the next five years of power hinge on this one person.
 
It’s always funny when British lefties say how good things will be when Labors in power again. The only times they’ve ever won in the last half century were because people were pissed off at the Tories, only to do an even worse job and then get voted out of power just as quickly.
Glad to know the cycles continuing.
I think you'll find very few "British lefties" who have anything nice to say about this government, especially since it's made it's priorities clear by punching down on the old and the disabled, aping Reform's rhetoric on immigration, and refusing to budge from a self-imposed set of "fiscal rules" which basically ensure that nothing is going to substantially change.

The truth is, this isn't a Labour government in anything other than name. In reality, it's a government comprised of careerists who rose to prominence entirely thanks to a purge orchestrated by those who saw Jeremy Corbyn as a threat to their bottom line (basically a mixture of party donors and the careerists who serve them, operating primarily under the direction of the think tank Labour Together). This lot were biding their time for years until Corbyn stepped down, and following their successful campaign to get their candidate (Starmer) to succeed him, the neoliberal cuckoo egg was then laid firmly in the nest.

What subsequently resulted was exactly what you'd expect: party purges, stacking influential positions with loyalists, reneging on leadership pledges, and promises of deregulation for big business. Essentially, the careerists and the donors got what they wanted; the membership and the party's traditional base did not.
 
The truth is, this isn't a Labour government in anything other than name.
This is a text book Labour government. It's what the country has been saying about Labour and why they were voting for the Conservatives instead. No True Scotsman falls flat on it's face when they want to murder old white people, cut off their heating and then cut off their benefits but have no problem paying for illegals to live in Hotels. Labour are the brown Tranny party, have been since Tony took control. "Tits naught mi labur aye voot faw" means you were a useful idiot.

It would be funny if Nigel started talking about DOGE more and how he's going to cut all the back handers the government keep giving. End the foreign aid, bring in strict laws about government contracts having to be delivered on time or major fines and consequences for the company's board. He won't do it because he wants to give his mates the same deals now he's in charge. It's a vote winner and even if all we got was a proper audit and accountability for all this money they throw away it would be enough to ease off on the constant squeezing.
 
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