AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

Here's another one from BrandMUDay:

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Just remember that these are the people who derided tradesmen who didn't want mass migration training their jerbs and told them to "learn to code." Now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly we have to care about technology's effect on "society" (their aging millennial habits and career prospects)
 
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Here's another one from BrandMUDay:

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Just remember that these are the people who derided tradesmen who didn't want mass migration training their jerbs and told them to "learn to code." Now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly we have to care about technology's effect on "society" (their aging millennial habits and career prospects)
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They have a utopian view on what is a job that shouldn't be automated, "fun" creative jobs, and jobs that should be automated "boring" labor jobs. Rather than holding to the fact no one wants to be replaced, whether its by automation or by another human.

Ironically the same people who showed support to sagaftra during the writing strike seems to fucking hate labor workers since they so easily say that those are the job that deserve to be automated.
 
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linchan said:
They have a utopian view on what is a job that shouldn't be automated, "fun" creative jobs, and jobs that should be automated "boring" labor jobs. Rather than holding to the fact no one wants to be replaced, whether its by automation or by another human.

Ironically the same people who showed support to sagaftra during the writing strike seems to fucking hate labor workers since they so easily say that those are the job that deserve to be automated.
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That's part of it, but I also think it's an issue of who they think deserves to be automated away. Consider that they don't want straight White men in these kinds of "fun" roles to begin with, and they definitely don't want them to have any views right of Bernie Sanders. They want White men to be their plumbers and electricians, and feel lesser than the mulatto transbian SBI consultant whose job it is to determine if other people's artistic work is "problematic." These people say "get an education" then make a point to not let you do that, then blame you for it.

So I think what it's really about is them being scared of losing control.
 
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Which is funny is that they vast majority doesn't control shit.
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They maintain a surprising amount of cultural control, even now, by demanding that to associate with them you remain in lockstep with their ideology. Even the most annoying MAGA boomer doesn't really ostracize people for disagreeing with him, he just argues about politics all the time. Such is not the case with shitter leftists. They WILL die on the hill of going homeless just to not associate with any "MAGAts," which until recently mattered a lot.

But in automating away all of the drudgery behind "creative" work, you diminish how much it matters. Why acquiesce to progressive shitlibbery and pay $200/image when you can just go on Midjourney and then take your iPad's pen to the output to fix the eyes/fingers/whatever? They won't stop the strategy of categorically refusing to compromise on who they associate with, but it'll be way less effective and powerful politically, and they know it.
 
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I didn't read the article, can be click bait.

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Quoting myself below:
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This is what anti-AI arttroons actually believe in:
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I shall once again clarify that yes, we still aren't quite at the point of AI being capable of animating like humans, at least not without some creative jerry-rigging of multiple AI tools together, but there will come a point where anyone can make their own animated shows with the help of AI and not having to pay out of pocket for other artists (With the best creative works made by those who actually are creative and know how to put an idea together). And yet anti-AI faggots think this is bad even though whether it was drawn by a human or "drawn" by an AI, in theory the output should be the same, just that one is getting paid in electricity usage and the other isn't.
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These are probably the same people that bitch and moan about AAA games taking forever to come out or that they release in such a buggy state. Whether AI will remedy the latter has yet to be seen, but it should definitely help with the former in coding and programming features faster.
 
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I think there will a market for artists. But not majority to create things from scratch. But for someone who repeatedly attempted to generate an image and couldn't get exactly what they wanted and needs an actual human to come in to fix the issues. Like increase vibrancy, emotion, fix placement of hands or objects. I think people will run into a roadblock of derivative issues and will hire artists for uniqueness and details.
 
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This is from a thread on ResetEra (is there a way to reference posts in other threads since this pertains to both AI derangement and ResetEra?):

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That's... not what this ruling is. The ruling is that you can train AIs without violating copyright.
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Just produce something better than the model then?
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Anthropic's argument doesn't hinge on the idea that LLMs think the way humans do, though. They don't really "think" at all, just predict the next token based on the input and past tokens generated. Anthropic's argument hinges on the idea that it's fair use to analyze innumerable people's work and then programmatically produce your own based on it.
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I've discussed this exact topic in this thread: they seem to have this idea in their head that their jobs are uniquely above automation. You can automate away some yucky hillbilly work and put them out of a job, but you couldn't put some danger hair leftoid out of a job by automating their "art."
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Why do leftists keep bringing this up? Nobody I've seen, much less lawyers representing these AI companies, says that we need to treat the AI models as people under the law. It seems like such a strawman.
 
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- San Franciso Judge says Anthropic made fair use of books to train AI
- Fair use is key defense for tech companies in AI copyright cases
- Judge also says pirating authors' books could not be justified

Interesting, wont know if the same will happen to other mediums, or if it will apply to webscraping, it can go anywhere with appeal.
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Another lawsuit result related to AI.
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The article is confusing as hell because it says

The US district judge Vince Chhabria, in San Francisco, said in his decision on the Meta case that the authors had not presented enough evidence that the technology company’s AI would cause “market dilution” by flooding the market with work similar to theirs. As a consequence Meta’s use of their work was judged a “fair use” – a legal doctrine that allows use of copyright protected work without permission – and no copyright liability applied.
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However the article then proceeds to hammer down the fact the judge is sympathetic to the concerns of the author, saying that there is market dilution. So which is it? Does the market get diluted or not. It seems like a poor work on the plaintiff side all around.
 
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Another lawsuit result related to AI.

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The article is confusing as hell because it says



However the article then proceeds to hammer down the fact the judge is sympathetic to the concerns of the author, saying that there is market dilution. So which is it? Does the market get diluted or not. It seems like a poor work on the plaintiff side all around.
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It seems the consequences of letting AI write articles are finally setting in. This is the extremely optimistic look and not that journoniggers are already this fucking weird and incompetent in writing narratives.
 
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The article is confusing as hell because it says



However the article then proceeds to hammer down the fact the judge is sympathetic to the concerns of the author, saying that there is market dilution. So which is it? Does the market get diluted or not. It seems like a poor work on the plaintiff side all around.
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The judge is bound by examining whatever evidence the plaintiffs submit, he can't do original research for the sake of the ruling. He thinks good evidence is out there, but he wasn't shown it, which forces him to rule a certain way.
 
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The judge is bound by examining whatever evidence the plaintiffs submit, he can't do original research for the sake of the ruling. He thinks good evidence is out there, but he wasn't shown it, which forces him to rule a certain way.
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Doesn't that mean this case can be sent in again? Isn't that double jeopardy? How far can appeal go if its to rectify shoddy evidence from the first round.
 
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Don't know if anyone else brought it up, I only went through the highlights, but I just wanted to point out something real artists learn in school (sorry not sorry, anime girls aren't art, and that's why they won't get you to any art school). Everyone should look up how the invention of photography changed art forever. Suddenly, everyone (with some money) could just take a photo of a landscape or anything, really. Artists had to come up with ways to stay relevant, so to speak, and invented completely new ways of thinking about art. It wasn't all about visual accuracy anymore, but how the scene makes you feel and so on.

It all reminds me of what is happening today. It seems like the people that feel threatened by AI know they will get replaced, because they will not adapt to new technology (AI is not going away, you don't un-invent things you don't like, it never works like that). So, if your style is so derivative that some basic image generator can completely replace you, you have bigger problems than AI.
 
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