US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[JambledUpWords]

it passed boys
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I fully expect the BBB to keep getting postponed until Democrats take back Congress. No way it has the votes to pass now.

Full floor vote is happening soon.

When the BBB inevitably doesn't pass, you all owe me an apology.

I never said they wouldn't vote. What will happen, however, is that enough Rs will cuck out and block the bill.

Thank you, reverse oracle

 

[Potion_Time]

Oh well. It's unfortunate that Republicans have just ensured 2026 will be another blue wave. How I wish they would have just listened to reason and put the 2nd amendment and anti illegal stuff back in.

But anybody who thinks our nation isn't going to be owned by currycels and kikes after this is fooling themselves. Enjoy unlimited H1b's to replace the White working class with cheap third world labor.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Because then the Democrats can't do ticky-tack budget bullshit for at least one year.

They won't be able to anyway. Republicans control the house and senate. You're just voting to fuck yourself for years for no reason other than you adore Trump and love everything he does without question, including his cringely named bill

I’m less worried about being overtaken in medical advancements for now, I would prefer if we focused more on making medicine more affordable in general. All our R&D investments still leads to a $10k ambulance ride

Will trump/rfk achieve this ? In my opinion it’s unlikely they do so , but one can hope I guess.

It certainly won't achieve this. We need to reform healthcare costs and insurance to fix that. I'd love to fix it, but we'd need to probably create nationalized healthcare in order to do that and that's pretty damn unlikely for the foreseeable future

 

[Sammich]

I was wrong about it going back to the Senate, so I guess that's final passage.

 

[mlanguishi]

Oh well. It's unfortunate that Republicans have just ensured 2026 will be another blue wave. How I wish they would have just listened to reason and put the 2nd amendment and anti illegal stuff back in.

Nobody is going to remember this by 2026 election, at all. But I agree this should've been stronger. Next year we'll see, that might be a better time to push harder on 2A and the rest than right now when it doesn't matter quite as much.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

I do not like his cuts to NIH research grants. Some of those fund meaningful research that can also serve as an introduction for researchers to get private industry jobs.

I do want this to get ironed out eventually but I'll also say there needs to be some major reform.

There was straight up fraud (not to mention waste, researching worthless shit) going on, like the Alzheimers amyloid hypothesis research (which people had been raising as a weak hypothesis for decades), lack of transparency, shitty quality research, political and idealogue bias, and lack of replication (not even that they weren't replicating but when they tried many studies couldn't be replicated).

When funding starts up again I would like to see these issues be addressed.
They have addressed transparency (all NIH funded papers need to be available to the public, starting this month), and it looks like RFK Jr is trying to address lack of replication, and providing NIH grants for smaller research teams to look into questions to help prevent fraud and bias (more diversity of opinion / meritocracy).

That said, NIH research does also do some important stuff like funding research into rare diseases and conditions like lymphedema (I have family members who developed this after cancer treatment and it's a fucking nightmare with few good interventions and not much understanding on why some people get it and others don't).

Edit: By the way, I don't remember if it was mentioned in the thread previously but he was on Tucker Carlson recently talking about some of this stuff, including shady shit with vaccine research, and some of the stuff I mention here (direction moving forward).

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

All our R&D investments still leads to a $10k ambulance ride

Its the health insurance companies that need to be burned to the ground and abolished. Single payer is not a good idea, but the health insurance companies are far worse.

Why do you think so many people celebrate Luigi?

 

[shekelshoah666]

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Dude had a breakdown when Trump stopped sending munitions to Ukraine lmao legit ran out like a baby yesterday after voting no on the rule and hid in his office.

The pro-gun stuff is honestly just filler to most people. Only spergs like us really give a shit, and they've now provided cover for ruling it unconstitutional anyway.

Pro gun stuff has been getting huge wins for awhile now but still not enough for the gun nut dudes I see them sperging out saying they are going to not vote or vote dem now since it's the same thing it's like man dems openly work to take the guns at every single moment they have power so do you want the guns taken away or incremental progress forwards towards your goals.

 

[Delany's Donkey]

So what will Massies cope be?

it's time for massie to get in the fucking suit

 

[obsdj]

Nobody is going to remember this by 2026 election, at all. But I agree this should've been stronger. Next year we'll see, that might be a better time to push harder on 2A and the rest than right now when it doesn't matter quite as much.

The Dems will remember, the Rs will have spent the past year and a half fucking up and putting up their feet because "WE WON!" and getting complacent because it's not like winning means you have to keep doing the work or anything.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

@Fatpacks thoughts?

 

[mlanguishi]

The Dems will remember, the Rs will have spent the past year and a half fucking up and putting up their feet because "WE WON!" and getting complacent because it's not like winning means you have to keep doing the work or anything.

The dems need some sort of leaders to do anything. All they have now are temu obamas and jokers. They ran all their best minds out of the party more than the nazis did.. Ironic that way.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Part of the issue is that our education system just isn't producing enough quality candidates and with the guts to education done by Trump and others before him, that isn't going to change anytime soon

What sort of quality education do you think is needed?

 

[likeacrackado]

WTF is even happening in the Senate? How many Senators besides Thune are nuking their careers just to protect the parliamentarian?

A few ways to look at it. At the core they'd rather not shake the boat, these """"people"""" with Congressional histories longer than most of our lives didn't stick around by pushing for serious change. It's easier to throw their hands up and say 'we tried guys but X group/person kept us from including Y policy you wanted, now settle for Z compromise and thank me'. Thune is not at risk of loosing his seat because of cutting back on the NFA deregulations no matter how much a stink people throw about it. Lindsey Graham is still safe in SC and he gets boo'ed when shows up at Trump events in state.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

They won't be able to anyway. Republicans control the house and senate. You're just voting to fuck yourself for years for no reason other than you adore Trump and love everything he does without question, including his cringely named bill

They definitely won't be able to now. It's either a not-so-great spending bill with the GOP or a complete clusterfuck with the Democrats. Which do you think I'm going to pick, you clown?

I was wrong about it going back to the Senate, so I guess that's final passage.
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Yup, that's it. Big fat L for the Democrats.

I do want this to get ironed out eventually but I'll also say there needs to be some major reform.

There was straight up fraud (not to mention waste, researching worthless shit) going on, like the Alzheimers amyloid hypothesis research (which people had been raising as a weak hypothesis for decades), lack of transparency, shitty quality research, political and idealogue bias, and lack of replication (not even that they weren't replicating but when they tried many studies couldn't be replicated).

When funding starts up again I would like to see these issues be addressed.
They have addressed transparency (all NIH funded papers need to be available to the public, starting this month), and it looks like RFK Jr is trying to address lack of replication, and providing NIH grants for smaller research teams to look into questions to help prevent fraud and bias (more diversity of opinion / meritocracy).

That said, NIH research does also do some important stuff like funding research into rare diseases and conditions like lymphedema (I have family members who developed this after cancer treatment and it's a fucking nightmare with few good interventions and not much understanding on why some people get it and others don't).

I agree 100% about the fraud that goes on in researching funding from the federal government, but not all of it sucks as you rightly make note of. If RFK focuses on replication issues and fucks with the pedigreed researchers getting all the money, that would be significant progress for medical research. What happens is some schmuck at an Ivy League sexifies their bullshit research, everyone copies the bullshit, then everyone finds out it's bullshit, but nothing changes because of existing relationships between the NIH and the Ivy Leagues. What needs to happen is the federal government needs to say "no" every once in a while so we stop getting celebrity academics who waste money.

 

[obsdj]

Johnson speaking live.

 

[Fapcop]

Or, ya know, curing cancer and other diseases.

How many decades has it been since Nixon announced the war on cancer? How many billions of dollars spent?

And just like with “We gots to teach inner city keedz to read and eliminate test gaps! Pls. Gib billions!” Nothing really happens, since the NIH is just a giant science slush fund anyways. The really effective cancer treatments are developed by industry anyways. Usually WITH the NHI who then hand them the patent rights, since it’s all a revolving door anyways.

I guess you just want China to overtake America

OH NOES PATRIOTS! We CANNOT lose the cancer cure gap! Please put ten billion in the budget!

lol! Why the f would anyone care if China invents a cure for cancer. Does it make any difference to anyone if they pay a Chinese pharmaceutical giant over an American? (Except they’d probably pay less of course.)

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

I fully expect the BBB to keep getting postponed until Democrats take back Congress. No way it has the votes to pass now.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

And just like with “We gots to teach inner city keedz to read and eliminate test gaps! Pls. Gib billions!” Nothing really happens, since the NIH is just a giant science slush fund anyways. The really effective cancer treatments are developed by industry anyways. Usually WITH the NHI who then hand them the patent rights, since it’s all a revolving door anyways.

This is blatantly false. You do not know what you're talking about.

 

[Butt_Pouncer]

How many decades has it been since Nixon announced the war on cancer? How many billions of dollars spent?

And just like with “We gots to teach inner city keedz to read and eliminate test gaps! Pls. Gib billions!” Nothing really happens, since the NIH is just a giant science slush fund anyways. The really effective cancer treatments are developed by industry anyways. Usually WITH the NHI who then hand them the patent rights, since it’s all a revolving door anyways.

OH NOES PATRIOTS! We CANNOT lose the cancer cure gap! Please put ten billion in the budget!

lol! Why the f would anyone care if China invents a cure for cancer. Does it make any difference to anyone if they pay a Chinese pharmaceutical giant over an American? (Except they’d probably pay less of course.)

Nigger just put on the burger suit already