US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[mlanguishi]

How are you suffering, little guy? Does seeing some brown people trigger you that much? Since it seems it does, I say we import more brown people just to watch you seethe

How you will suffer if they get thrown out? It'll improve your life if they do for sure. The 'own the chuds' meme is strong with you mah man.

 

[Barleys]

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These people don't realize that just because it doesn't go into effect until after midterms that they can't prevent it from going into effect unless they quite literally have enough votes to overturn the president.
Seriously how little do these people understand about this process

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

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I'm not sure that the side they think has bad reading comprehension is the one that does. Dear god I now want to know which party actually has reading comprehension.

 

[The best and greatest]

It wouldn't increase wages, though. It would just shift the wages from one industry to another.

Thing is there's a finite labor pool that needs to be competed for when you cant just import workers from abroad

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How you will suffer if they get thrown out? It'll improve your life if they do for sure. The 'own the chuds' meme is strong with you mah man.

You MAGA manlets are the ones who have no convictions other than voting for whatever triggers the liberals. So I am going to support everything that triggers MAGA from now on.

How would them deporting illegals benefit me? Driving up the costs of goods doesn't do me any good. Seeing you seethe with rage over seeing brown people brings me joy though

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Thing is there's a finite labor pool that needs to be competed for when you cant just import workers from abroad

That's correct. another reason my idea would work well.

 

[SITHRAK!]

I really hate Team Sports politics. Trump "won" by tightening his grip on the GOP's nutsack to get a bill most of them disagreed with passed. People are going to lose their jobs and healthcare, America's debt became $4 Trillion dollars more impossible to pay off, and it's going to be our problem to suffer through and desperately try and solve because the boomers who got us in this mess in the first place are on track to die or leave office before this bill takes full effect.

So you’re saying the republicans passed a bill that they knew had zero positive effects? Why would they do such a thing?
Or are you just spitballing your own worst-case scenario, ignoring any potential positives, and furiously doomjacking it here to own the chuds?
I see a double bacon cheeseburger suit in your near future, compadre.

 

[mlanguishi]

You MAGA manlets are the ones who have no convictions other than voting for whatever triggers the liberals. So I am going to support everything that triggers MAGA from now on.

How would them deporting illegals benefit me? Driving up the costs of goods doesn't do me any good. Seeing you seethe with rage over seeing brown people brings me joy though

Naw man, you guys seem more into owning the chuds by letting illegals destroy the country.

Driving up costs to have citizens do the jobs, fine by me. Those labor costs on those low levels really aren't that big of a deal on the end product you know..

Your argument is the same as dems in the 1850s and before, who will pick the cotton if we don't have slaves. But now that argument is called 'progressive'.

You come on and seethe and rage every time you think MAGA wins or loses. But MAGA's been winning nonstop now for a long time. Have fun and tell Spoony he needs to get a job too.

ETA and spoony said he has no insurance at all, who exactly gets Medicaid? I think it's almost entirely given to low wage illegals.

 

[Breadbassket]

AOC practically on the verge of tears, calling the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill "one of the saddest days in modern American history."

 

[TarragonRespecter]

Because the amount that they'd have to pay Americans to do those jobs is way more than they're willing to pay. It would drive costs up a lot. There's even been surveys when asked who would want to work in the "factories" that Trump promised and it's a very small number https://reason.com/2025/04/15/do-americans-really-want-to-bring-back-manufacturing/

If it's way more than "they're willing" and not able to pay then they can go out of business.

If you read your own link it says 80% of people surveyed want factories back in the us and "only" 25% think their lives would be improved by working in said factories. Since when did 25% become a "very small number"? I think someone got caught in a lie.

I know that's not picking crops or whatever, but it's a similar concept. If, for example, a meat plant had to hire domestic workers, they'd have to pay them quite a bit, which would drive up the price of meat by a lot. I sure as hell wouldn't want an 85% or whatever it is pay cut to work in a meat plant.

I am not saying we should have totally open borders or anything like that. That's retarded. However, an easier way to bring in immigrants legally who want to work in jobs like that would benefit everyone. You could even make it so that the factory would have incentives to hire citizens (like make them pay a tax on wages for the people brought over or something like that). And then of course you could make it so that if a company is caught hiring someone who isn't here legally, they get severely punished (funny how this doesn't happen now, lol).

Youre assuming it would increase the price of meat. Realistically it would more than likely lower it because American workers would be more efficient than the foreigners they currently employ. Right now we're hiring 2 or 3 illegals instead of 1 American but it doesnt up production because it takes 2-3 illegals to match the output of 1 American in the same job.

Let's be real. You want open borders but dont want to be open about it. There is no benefit to bringing in these people so making it easier is a net evil and is tantamount to keeping thr border open.

 

[mlanguishi]

AOC practically on the verge of tears, calling the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill "one of the saddest days in modern American history."

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[Crackersandfleas]

You act like Trump actually gives a shit about getting rid of illegals that aren't hispanic. He's cool with white, Asian and Indian illegals.

Trump and his sycophants are trying to Make India Great Again!

Bad enough we have to deal with your kind online (thanks smart phones) and now streetshidders make up 2/3's of internet traffic.

No, we don't need you creatures in our actual communities. Go back to Hdyerbadbadddbaababa and sweat yourself to death. No, no white women want you, thats been scientifically proven. Manlet stalkers are a major turn-off.

Trump and company did send back 300, all it took was me constantly emailing churches in red districts with a prayer request to deport the criminal jeets that are scamming our grandma's. (Along with one of many articles about you scammers getting arrested.)

Maybe its time for me to take up prayer once again?

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Let's be real. You want open borders but dont want to be open about it. There is no benefit to bringing in these people so making it easier is a net evil and is tantamount to keeping thr border open.

I'll be honest, based on what Hulk's posted in the past, I think he just doesn't want the pool of Latina's shrinking. Someone should get him and AOC together.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Naw man, you guys seem more into owning the chuds by letting illegals destroy the country.

Driving up costs to have citizens do the jobs, fine by me. Those labor costs on those low levels really aren't that big of a deal on the end product you know..

Your argument is the same as dems in the 1850s and before, who will pick the cotton if we don't have slaves. But now that argument is called 'progressive'.

You come on and seethe and rage every time you think MAGA wins or loses. But MAGA's been winning nonstop now for a long time. Have fun and tell Spoony he needs to get a job too.

ETA and spoony said he has no insurance at all, who exactly gets Medicaid? I think it's almost entirely given to low wage illegals.

Your entire worldview is shaped on "if it triggers the libs, it's gud" so I am adopting the same mentality only if it triggers you MAGA retards it's gud.

Driving up costs to pay for what it would cost would certainly upset you. It would be a lot more than the inflation in 2022, which was caused by corporate greed but sent you into a frothing tardrage and blaming Biden for it. Now you are suggesting that inflation is good as long as it's caused by an obese, elderly, incontinent man

This bill is going to fuck Republicans hard in the midterms and 2028. Then you'll be seething with rage and coping about "MAH VOTING FRAUD" like you did in 2020, even after your waifu's own lawyers admitted that there was no fraud when under oath

Who the hell are ETA and spoony?

Bad enough we have to deal with your kind online (thanks smart phones) and now streetshidders make up 2/3's of internet traffic.

No, we don't need you creatures in our actual communities. Go back to Hdyerbadbadddbaababa and sweat yourself to death. No, no white women want you, thats been scientifically proven. Manlet stalkers are a major turn-off.

Trump and company did send back 300, all it took was me constantly emailing churches in red districts with a prayer request to deport the criminal jeets that are scamming our grandma's. (Along with one of many articles about you scammers getting arrested.)

Maybe its time for me to take up prayer once again?

I know you have an intellectual disability (I saw that message you sent to the group message) and brag about it, which makes you really gullible and thus you believe everything you read online, but I am actually white you retard. I have no idea why you retards think I am Indian. I mean, I know you think that because you're a mindless NPC who believes everything he reads on Kiwi Farms, but I am white.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

They really are just a bunch of old, white fucks larping as if it's still the Civil Rights Movement

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[Crackersandfleas]

Because the amount that they'd have to pay Americans to do those jobs is way more than they're willing to pay. It would drive costs up a lot

You lie!

The real depressing thing about manufacturing being outsourced out of America was learning that on average it saved companies about 4%.

4%

Meanwhile, CEO and upper management have experienced insane growth in wealth. There didn't used to be a super yacht competition. 40 years ago having a super yacht meant you were a major drug smuggler like Scarface. CEO's and upper management had to settle... sigh...with owning a large mansion on a golf course and owning a couple exotic cars.

Now they get to buy goddamn islands, multiple mansions, build their own gold courses, own a FLEET of super yachts.

Nah, they can afford to pay us more.

 

[mlanguishi]

Your entire worldview is shaped on "if it triggers the libs, it's gud" so I am adopting the same mentality only if it triggers you MAGA retards it's gud.

Driving up costs to pay for what it would cost would certainly upset you. It would be a lot more than the inflation in 2022, which was caused by corporate greed but sent you into a frothing tardrage and blaming Biden for it. Now you are suggesting that inflation is good as long as it's caused by an obese, elderly, incontinent man

This bill is going to fuck Republicans hard in the midterms and 2028. Then you'll be seething with rage and coping about "MAH VOTING FRAUD" like you did in 2020, even after your waifu's own lawyers admitted that there was no fraud when under oath

Who the hell are ETA and spoony?

You've been wrong about everything, you're fatpacks part 2. Sure sure, it'll costs 2026 and 2028.. Sure.

Good day my Hogan. I enjoy your rants sometimes, and the timing of how you come in is always.. 'kinda fun'? You win a lot saying we'll get more than bidenflation 2022, which I'm sure you were all back then 'that's GOP doings and goings on!'

 

[Crackersandfleas]

I know you have an intellectual disability (I saw that message you sent to the group message) and brag about it, which makes you really gullible and thus you believe everything you read online, but I am actually white you retard. I have no idea why you retards think I am Indian. I mean, I know you think that because you're a mindless NPC who believes everything he reads on Kiwi Farms, but I am white.

Defend the pajeet become the pajeet. You maybe "white" but you're not a human, you're one of those creatures. Now go shid outside like the animal you are.

 

[browserbowser]

You are a zoomer if you didn't experience 9/11

Like I said, I originally had it explained to me in the late 90's that 1990-2005 is the range for 'millenial' with the explanation given that they were the generation around the turn of the millenium. I've watched it since over the years be pulled back from 1990-2005 to apparently 1980-1995.

Give it another twenty and I'll be a zoomer lmao. People are just allergic to getting old, and being lumped into a group everyone likes to blame everything on, there's not really any better answer as to why this has occurred. imo. To me, I'll always remember it as '95-'05.

The generation demarcations are consistent enough in recent times,

Clearly they're not.

They put the start point of Millennials as being 1982 and the end point being 2005, and gen Z as 2006 to 2029.

You're referencing shit that has all been posted or most likely altered in the past ten years. I very specifically looked for a web page that has almost certainly been unaltered prior to at least 2010, because I've even gone back to old articles around 2012 that I remember having the date the one I posted -

See an article from 2007 that has been unchanged, that has the date even in 2007 jumped forward five years:
https://tomorrowtodayglobal.com/2007/04/14/generation-y-theyve-arrived-at-work-with-a-new-attitude/

- here being 'silently' updated.

If you didn't know, this is a common phenomenon and has been since at least... 2014? 2017 at the latest, where various websites from wikipedia to news orgs will 'update' their old pages cryptically. I know wikipedia is supposed to have revision histories but they often don't for shit like this.

I mean I don't really freak out about it anymore, but we do in fact live in a form of that shit from 1984 where reality itself gets retconned. Sorry if that news alarms you.

Anyway, point being, to put it as bluntly and directly as I can to you; the point you keep trying to insinuate is incorrect. My memory on this is sterling because for whatever reason it really stuck in my craw when I first saw the date revised around 2006-2008 in various articles to the '1984-2000' number.