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It seems that TMS comissioned a brand new English dub for a select few episodes of Detective Conan. It's being done by Texas based studio called Studio Nano. If you remember the old dub by Funimation, Inspector Megure retains his voice actor from that dub and the old actress for Ran is now voicing Vermouth.


They dubbed the following episodes:
  • 1. The Roller Coaster Murder Case
  • 2. The Kidnapping of the Company President's Daughter
  • 128. Ten Gran Robbery of the Black Organization
  • 129. The Girl from the Black Organization and the University Professor Murder Case (2-hour special)
  • 176-178. Re-encounter with the Black Organization
  • 230-231. Mysterious Passenger
Spot checking it, it seems like a decent enough dub. Nothing truly offensive but also nothing really sticking out. My biggest criticism is that it's far too few episodes and they skip out on episodes in particular that introduce characters (Detective Boys, Jodie) that play parts in the latter half of the episodes. They also skip an actual Black Organization case in episode 54.

As for more personal gripes, I really like Jerry Jewel's Shinichi/Jimmy Kudo and wish he could've returned in particular. Having him be Conan's inner monologue was an inspired choice that I wish other English dubs had done cause most if not all of the English voice actors for Conan do not sound convincing when doing Conan's "adult" voice. I think this dub should've done so as well. Maybe TMS now has a mandate where they can't do that?

If TMS wants Detective Conan dubbed to be a thing in the US then this is probably the way to go. Release batches of important/curated episodes and do that till you catch up.
 
(Autism ho!)

Not sure if this belongs in the Q&A section of this board (as this is a really stupid question), but at any rate, given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?

Anime is written very direct. There is little subtext left up to the imagination. Characters clearly communicate how they are feeling and what they are thinking. I could not finish Death Note because Light basically speaks aloud his plans even when it's very obvious what he's doing, and that frustrates me. This is a frustration I've had with other shows. I watched the Madoka movie with someone and the ending builds up to this very sad sacrifice, which ultimately resolves itself with a Space-God-Cat explaining (for about 15 minutes) that the laws have physics have changed because the sacrifice was so big, and that means everything goes back to being normal and the sacrifice wasn't even a real sacrifice. This is autistic friendly writing.


I'm not saying anime is autistic to be flippant or offensive. It is important to my point about extremism. Both extreme left and extreme right are adjacent to anime on the Internet. This is because autistic people are more susceptible to being groomed. If you are looking for someone to groom, you would have better access to autistic people in anime circles. If you happened to be a white supremacist extremist or a transgender pedophile, you will find autistic and lonely teenagers on anime-adjacent discords. Show them lolicon and say that their loyal white virgin gf is only possible if we get rid of the niggers. Show them futa and say they'd be a beautiful sexy dickgirl woman too if they took HRT. Surround the lonely autistic person with people love bombing them and porn bombing them.


That's just my take. I think there is something about anime that filters people. When I turned 18 I had no direction in life so I decided I was going to learn Japanese and go to Japan to teach English as a new years resolution on the NY a few weeks after my birthday. I seriously dedicated myself to watching Japanese shows, learning the language, and learning about the country. I hated the shows, I hated the language, and the more I learned about Japan the less I liked it. So despite deliberately trying to get interested I could not do it, despite watching a pretty wide variety of stuff. Even as a kid, my best friend LOVED Dragon Ball Z and Yu-Gi-Oh and Digimon. I gave all of them a shot and religiously watched DBZ so we could talk about it, and all I remember about DBZ is how fucking slow it was. There is a filter built into the medium and it sorts people by some sort of criteria. I won't say it's "autism" or "pedophilia" because I am for certain my best friend as a little kid was not autistic or a pedophile. He was Filipino though.
Then again, I'm not quite sure what the consensus on Null's opinions around here are. I mean, that quote from him got nothing but Winner reaction mainly.
 
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Then again, I'm not quite sure what the consensus on Null's opinions around here are. I mean, that quote from him got nothing but Winner reaction mainly.
Tons of people on this site hate anime or follow Null's opinions blindly -- so any post criticizing anime is going to have massive support. Null's post was addressing why extremists are attracted to anime with the premise that anime attracts autists due to its writing and art-style.

given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?
Null's reason for disliking anime is because he generalizes the writing as "autism friendly". But anime is a massive media. All you have to do is look past the Top 50 and you'll find thousands of shows without "autism friendly" writing.
 
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I do have to question if, after trying hard to learn Japanese, watching Japanese shows, and learning about the culture, all he could come away with was just hating all three.

Like, seriously? You couldn’t find anything you liked?
 
(Autism ho!)

Not sure if this belongs in the Q&A section of this board (as this is a really stupid question), but at any rate, given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?
His attitude towards anime is an extension of his attitude towards Japan, and a charitable way to explain that attitude is that some Westerners are just incompatible with Oriental cultures*. I imagine he would have a similar (or even more severe) hatred of South Korea or China if he had spent a similar amount of time & energy in either country.
Null's reason for disliking anime is because he generalizes the writing as "autism friendly". But anime is a massive media. All you have to do is look past the Top 50 and you'll find thousands of shows without "autism friendly" writing.
The anime he's talking about isn't directed at autists, it's directed at children. Of course that kind of anime is going to handhold and explain everything to their audience, their audience are children.

I suspect that Null lets his time as an administrator on 8chan paint his view of anime and Japan.

*: An uncharitable way to explain it is that he's boorish and uncultured.
 
Not sure if this belongs in the Q&A section of this board (as this is a really stupid question), but at any rate, given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?
I'll need to look for it later (mobile-fagging atm), but there's a @Secret Asshole post in this thread that touches on this. If I remember his words correctly, he said that anime is just naturally hard for Westerners to get into, and especially the older you get. You have to basically have grown up with the medium in order to stay a fan of it, or at least got exposed to enough kino movies/OVAs in tape-trading circles or movie clubs and are open to the weirdness and schlock that occurs in them. Anime used to be good at weeding out people, but now it's become more sanitized for a general (foreign) audience and that's a problem for the creative medium and partly why it is you hear oldtaku complain about modern anime, they're just a bit bad at articulating their problems with it.

"Autism-friendly" is just an outsider-looking-in perspective from someone who doesn't understand Japanese tells and why it is they purposefully exaggerate in animation. Even old-school cartoons have signs of that, and the Japanese animation industry was well-influenced by those cartoons, they just added their own spin to it that makes it Japanese, and that's why weirdos and nerds gravitated to it when they did.
 
f I remember his words correctly, he said that anime is just naturally hard for Westerners to get into, and especially the older you get. You have to basically have grown up with the medium in order to stay a fan of it, or at least got exposed to enough kino movies/OVAs in tape-trading circles or movie clubs and are open to the weirdness and schlock that occurs in them.
it is a product of a different culture, which means it does require some getting used to. but I wouldn't say age is a big factor. these days most people grew up with pokemon and sailor moon, so "anime" isn't something completely new like it was back in the 90's or before. good media (ymmv) is time- and ageless, first example being ghibli movies.
what doesn't help is that the "fans" simply suck at recruiting people. that's not limited to anime. what I mean it's like trying to get your gf/wife into boardgames and you start with a weekend-session of risk global domination. obviously that shit won't fly and turn her off from the whole thing altogether (and normalfags really dislike changing their formed opinion if they don't have a reason to, like the specific interest of someone they care about).

otoh it works well as a filter, no one wants to see his specific interest become mainstream.

I suspect that Null lets his time as an administrator on 8chan paint his view of anime and Japan.
not just anime and japan. calling everything weird non-mainstream "autistic" is simply retarded. it's the same logic from people talking about porn and the internet, heavily implying "before" everything was alright with the world and degenerates didn't exist. essentially it's the other side of the post-modernist coin where everything in the past was always bad and needs to be "made better".

point is there were always socially stunted outcasts which obviously congregated in their own spaces either because it was more comfortable, or because no other space would accept them. that's how it always worked and will, it's basic bitch sociology. obviously these spaces have different issues since they're created by "different" people; one of them being more welcoming due to aforementioned ostracization, which makes it much easier for bad actors to invade it - be it troons to get into positions of power more easily to find more victims or normalfags who social gentrify that place. it's a big irony that in the pursuit of more inclusion and acceptance it inevitably destroys what made that thing and place special.
just look how information technology, THE nerd domain of the past is overrun with troons. so logically anything with computers attracts troons, and the only solution is to go medieval again, which will make troons and this whole social dynamic disappear (instead of, you know, just finding another space to invade and exploit...)

implying that this didn't happen before anime attracted "the autists" (which in itself is an highly overused term) is just dumb, and what's really disappointing that he should know better instead of falling for the same retarded arm-chair logic trying to make sense of it backwards. ffs the farms are villainized like 4chan of old, so he knows how it is to be on the receiving end. maybe it's cope "at least I'm not like those people" or something.
no, anime didn't attract the autists nerds, they were just more open to it than the force-fed MSM niggercattle, same way star trek, dnd, or any other "nerd shit" was it's own looked-up subculture before big bang theory made it cool. look at any fucking media from the last 60-70 years till today, heavily influenced by US cultural hegemony, the behavior and treatment of that character type wasn't invented in fucking hollywood.

and quite simply, different strokes for different folks. sports is a trillion dollar industry (if not more when you look at it globally) and mainstream as fuck, but simply bores me to tears. yet you won't seem me try to psycho-analyze someone buying an all-year-pass and watching every match of the season ("those plebian dregs getting excited over modern-day gladiators!"), let alone then tangent off into hooligans and shit ("they're just the hitler youth for sport clubs!!").
 
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Found the post I was talking about.

but I wouldn't say age is a big factor
If you can find an old person in their sixties or so who has never watched anime ever and then is shown anime and liked it enough to want to watch more anime like it, I'd love to hear that story because that's a unicorn. My late-grandmother only watched a few anime with me because she wanted to spend some quality time with me and liked my drawings despite them being in that anime artstyle. She even sometimes mentioned when there was a movie coming out and wanted to know if I was interested, so that was something we did while I lived with my grandparents for college and years afterward. The only time she watched a subbed anime was Maquia, and somehow she managed to stay interested in it despite how lulzy the Crunchyroll subs got on occasion because it was a movie about the joys and pains of motherhood. Meanwhile, I knew that she would've not liked the Revolutionary Girl Utena movie which was why I turned it down, so I think the only weird anime I ever exposed her to was Escaflowne.

My grandmother was a little eccentric and she did remember Pokémon so that's probably why, but I honestly have never heard of old people actually getting into anime proper. College students back in the day got into anime because they were already nerds themselves, or just watched some movies and thought they were cool because they tended to have animated sex and violence and real jagged men in them. I still remember in college one of my older peers did a presentation on the designs of Yoshiaki Kawajiri and how his movies inspired his drawing style, and that was my first exposure to Wicked City and Ninja Scroll now that I had entered adulthood and could expand my palate more.

Having grown up with anime on TV I think helped me come to better appreciate the medium in a way that I don't think would've stuck with me otherwise. I still likely would've been drawn to it having grown up with a lot of animated movies like Disney, Don Bluth, some Rankin/Bass, and even a tape of Speed Racer, and I was a fan of Godzilla so I got used to seeing Japanese people (but didn't properly understand they were just pretty-looking Japanese lol), but having regular exposure to the look on TV for years I think definitely was the key to keeping me interested.
 
We really should have a sticky Null and Anime thread. But to add to what everyone says, there was a large intersection between lolcows and anime in the 2000's, and even non lolcows tended to be incredibly annoying. It's similar to the case of a good game having terrible fanbase that repels everyone from it.

The interesting thing though is that nowadays even normies watch anime. The diehard fans are still cringy fucks, but you can talk with someone that occasionally watches the new anime on Netflix and not have a terrible time.
 
but you can talk with someone that occasionally watches the new anime on Netflix and not have a terrible time.
depends how you define not terrible time conversing with some dubfag gushing about the latest battle-shonen :story:

If you can find an old person in their sixties or so who has never watched anime ever and then is shown anime and liked it enough to want to watch more anime like it, I'd love to hear that story because that's a unicorn.
at that age I noticed most people don't consume much "new" stuff anyway, anime or not.
heck I see the same effect starting for me where I watch older stuff because most of the recent "entertainment" is braindead slop and retarded, and I don't want to waste time and energy finding that one diamond in a bathtub full of shit. at least "back then" there was still more quality content around...
 
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We really should have a sticky Null and Anime thread. But to add to what everyone says, there was a large intersection between lolcows and anime in the 2000's, and even non lolcows tended to be incredibly annoying. It's similar to the case of a good game having terrible fanbase that repels everyone from it.

The interesting thing though is that nowadays even normies watch anime. The diehard fans are still cringy fucks, but you can talk with someone that occasionally watches the new anime on Netflix and not have a terrible time.
The early 2000’s and 2010’s were a magical time. I think the large issue is that anime fans at that time had a sizeable amount of furries infesting it and in general people like Dobson.
 
Then again, I'm not quite sure what the consensus on Null's opinions around here are. I mean, that quote from him got nothing but Winner reaction mainly.
I respect what Null is doing for internet freedom and free speech, but his feminist mindset makes it hard to take him seriously a lot of the time. For example, "Show them lolicon and say that their loyal white virgin gf is only possible if we get rid of the niggers." is just retarded. Not only does he dismiss the valid complaints of men who do not want to pursue immoral, disloyal sluts as "extremist", but he acts like anyone who doesn't want a slut must be a pedophile by equating the natural desire for a good woman to wanting to fuck children. Prime example of the questionable things he says on a regular basis that is motivated by feelings (I hate Japan) rather than any logical consideration. Sure, anime attracts autists like any niche interest does, but dismissing it as all being by and for autists, let alone as an avenue for "extremism" is a smoothbrain take by someone who hasn't actually thought deeply on the subject, nor done any effort to see if his conclusion was accurate. Men are naturally inclined to like loyal, chaste women, and anime oftentimes featuring characters that satisfy that craving is very appealing, especially to more and more western men revolted by the disgusting nature of "their" women in the modern world. That desire exists completely independent of politics or ideology, because it is instinctive and biological.

I also find it fairly ridiculous, because every criticism he has of anime is everpresent in American entertainment, if not significantly worse. Have you seen the writing in modern shows and movies? The rampant degeneracy? The juvenile nature of everything? The blatant far left extremism baked into practically every single piece of entertainment? Even if I take his "issues" with anime seriously, all of his critiques and more are applicable to American (and western) entertainment as a whole, so his hyperfocus on his hated anime doesn't make sense. Lastly, he got so much support because he posted his "anime is evil and I hate it" screed on a thread full of people who hate anime. Of course he got a bunch of dickriders supporting him there. A lot of people on here disagree with Null and his frequently "creative" interpretation of the world around him, but at least I respect that he is the only reason this site exists, and don't go out of my way to antagonize him or pick fights with him, so I wouldn't take that post as some sort of site-wide endorsement of everything he thinks. That includes not chasing him down to a thread I don't want to participate in and crapping on his hot take.
Null's reason for disliking anime is because he generalizes the writing as "autism friendly". But anime is a massive media. All you have to do is look past the Top 50 and you'll find thousands of shows without "autism friendly" writing.
This is true of anyone I have ever met that said anime is stupid or childish; they almost always watched a few shounen and were shocked when a show for 14 year old boys wasn't high cinema.
 
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Just finished Umamusume S2. How does an anime about horse girls go so hard?

It must be the same thing with how the game has been popping off after it's International (?) release.

On another note, why are Death Game mangas filled with sex scenes in them? At least the anime adaptations of those Death Games tone down the sex (or even remove them), but there's still scenes like in the King's Game anime where the MC NTRs himself by having his girlfriend fuck his best friend (offscreen) so his best friend doesn't die, and another scene where a girl is seen fucking a guy's corpse.
  • Does the fear of getting killed off in someone's sick, sick game is also an aphrodisiac?
  • Are these Death Game mangaka also secretly hypersexual too, and want to express that? Or do they do it for shock value?
  • Is this Japan's way of sneaking in sex content into media that is below rated R18?
None of those theories seem to be a good explanation for Death Game manga sex scenes though. The sex scenes are so frequent that the shock value factor isn't there anymore, Japan's filled with so much degenerate shit that they shouldn't have to put them into Death Games, and I can't see how people would get horny if they're trapped in a room with strangers and have to kill each other off to escape alive.

I also find it fairly ridiculous, because every criticism he has of anime is everpresent in American entertainment, if not significantly worse. Have you see the writing in modern shows and movies? The rampant degeneracy? The juvenile nature of everything? The blatant far left extremism baked into practically every single piece of entertainment? Even if I take his "issues" with anime seriously, all of his critiques and more are applicable to American (and western) entertainment as a whole, so his hyperfocus on his hated anime doesn't make sense. Lastly, he got so much support because he posted his "anime is evil and I hate it" screed on a thread full of people who hate anime. Of course he got a bunch of dickriders supporting him there. A lot of people on here disagree with Null and his frequently "creative" interpretation of the world around him, but at least I respect that he is the only reason this site exists, and don't go out of my way to antagonize him or pick fights with him, so I wouldn't take that post as some sort of site-wide endorsement of everything he thinks. That includes not chasing how down to a thread I don't want to participate in and crapping on his hot take.

It's probably because people already know about those said issues with Western Entertainment, and bringing it up again would be beating a dead horse.
 
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It's probably because people already know about those said issues with Western Entertainment, and bringing it up again would be beating a dead horse.
So, complaining about anime being "problematic" and appealing to normal men isn't beating a dead horse? That's been a go to criticism of anime as long as I have been alive, and has only increased in frequency and intensity as more and more people turn to anime as an alternative to the absolutely awful "entertainment" coming out of America and the rest of the West. The "anime bad" horse has been beaten so frequently and so eagerly that Null was just stomping a greasy, stinky smear on the ground.
 
On another note, why are Death Game mangas filled with sex scenes in them?
Pretty sure it's because they're inspired by slasher films, which always have sex scenes in them. Usually right before someone is brutally killed.
Pretty much, it's just part of the shlock. That's why non-hentai horror OVAs back in the day had nudity in them.
 
Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star remake trailer officially dropped, alongside a 2026 release date. It looks positively abhorrent.
Like, back in 2023, I was already worried when the teaser poster was released featuring 3d models of Zeed grunts. Now the video confirms we're getting muddy-brown skinned people akin to what they did in the OVA and the abominable 3D animation that was also present in regenesis which will make it look like a 2005 console game running at 10 fps (see below).
 
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