US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[CarlKingofDucks]

Christ, I remember why I don't really come to this forum much anymore. It's so disheartening to read shit like this because you genuinely can't discern if this is a troll or a very, very damaged person.

I might be missing it but... What was wrong with his post? He was pointing out that we have TWENTY MILLION people in our country who shouldn't be here. We're not allowed to use military so the only federal force to take care of it is ICE which wasn't close to big enough to do the job.

Unless you thinking infinity brown third worlders is a good thing.

 

[Carl Smallwang]

we need labor strikes and pressuring for our current immigration laws and policies towards illegal immigrants to be revised and or have some laws removed.

If ICE removed enough of the illegal alien slave caste, It would make labor organizing even more potent. It help remove the single biggest piece of leverage employers have over workers.

ICE's enforcement arm is the single most visible "Gestapo-like" org the left moans about right now. It's the reason for the national guard and marine deployments. Because criminal gangs and rioters were actively hunting them down and attacking them. And what is ICE doing? Arresting illegal aliens, there hasn't been any deaths associated with these arrests at all. The biggest threat to bodily harm was against ICE by people attempting to dox them on twitter. And that was just remedied by ICE mandating their agents wear masks. And the left has been screaming like banshees over that. With even your mid-tier libs encouraging illegal aliens to don masks at riots.

 

[SITHRAK!]

I remember why I don't really come to this forum much anymore

>less than 18 months tenure
>266 posts
>negative reaction rating
Do you feel as though our lives are improved by having you here?

 

[quaawaa]

What I will always push for is the nationalization of the defense industry, these faggots have been price gouging the government since the GWOT

That won’t help. The only way to fix runaway expenses is to imprison corrupt officials who negotiate bad contracts.

 

[Cynicaller]

Haha yeah why would you consider millions of unrecorded unidentified fighting age males flooding over your borders a military issue haha it’s not like it’s an invasion

Just stop.

There's been dozens of meta studies done on violent crime rates in Texas and illegals are not nearly as violent as US citizens.

And you're acting like demonizing them will solve anything? What are you most upset about, being replaced? "They took our jerbs!"?

Trump went on the record yesterday saying he will seriously consider allowing exceptions for agricultural employers to employ illegals, and I quote,

"If a farmer has been with one of these people that worked so hard – they bend over all day, we don’t have too many people that can do that, but they work very hard, and they know him very well, and some of the farmers are literally, you know, they cry when they see this happen – if a farmer is willing to vouch for these people, in some way, Kristie, I think we’re going to have to just say that’s going to be good, right?”

Yeah they're still keeping those underpaid fuckasses under lock and key. They're too useful. Mald.

Actually it was more than just the agriculture industry, he hinted at hospitality too lmfao

 

[Carl Smallwang]

That won’t help. The only way to fix runaway expenses is to imprison corrupt officials who negotiate bad contracts.

They should switch to the CPFF contracting scheme adopted by the space program during their Commercial Crew Program and CLPS. It reduced space launch costs by nearly 90%.

 

[The best and greatest]

What are you most upset about, being replaced? "They took our jerbs!"?

If it happened to you I doubt you would see it as something to be made light of.

You have more empathy for foreigners than your own people. Are we supposed to be impressed with you?

 

[Cynicaller]

If it happened to you I doubt you would see it as something to be made light of.

You have more empathy for foreigners than your own people. Are we supposed to be impressed with you?

Nowhere in my post did I imply I *wanted* this to happen. In fact, I was trying to bring light to the real source of the immigration problem: the wealthy shitstains consistently keeping channels open for these people to flood in and take jobs. They're not violent, but they're sure as hell more comfortable with being treated like dirt and being paid like shit.

The Trump quote is just a microcosm of that. He's **literally** platforming on deporting these people and can't even employ some subtlety, instead explicitly spelling out that those same rich shitstains **want to keep the illegals in employment**.

You want to see this stop? Stop having faith in Washington. Go empower your local communities, where the heart of America ACTUALLY is.

And yes, you can very loosely interpret "empower". Do whatever you gotta do.

 

[TarragonRespecter]

There's been dozens of meta studies done on violent crime rates in Texas and illegals are not nearly as violent as US citizens.

Lmao just "violent crimes"? So they commit more of every other crime but violent according to your study

And you're acting like demonizing them will solve anything? What are you most upset about, being replaced? "They took our jerbs!"?

Even in your words they commit more crimes. Demonizing them will solve most problems.

Trump went on the record yesterday saying he will seriously consider allowing exceptions for agricultural employers to employ illegals, and I quote,

"Consider"

"If a farmer has been with one of these people that worked so hard – they bend over all day, we don’t have too many people that can do that, but they work very hard, and they know him very well, and some of the farmers are literally, you know, they cry when they see this happen – if a farmer is willing to vouch for these people, in some way, Kristie, I think we’re going to have to just say that’s going to be good, right?”

The extreme vast majority arent working on farms. It sounds like if they fuck up the farmer gets penalized too by "vouching."

Yeah they're still keeping those underpaid fuckasses under lock and key. They're too useful. Mald.

Actually it was more than just the agriculture industry, he hinted at hospitality too lmfao

Lmao so like 98.9% of the illegals are still on the table to be deported but we cant touch those ones? Okay ill take that trade. Not 100% what I wanted but if they're not 100% useless we can let them stay for now and always ship them out later

 

[The Ugly One]

There's been dozens of meta studies done on violent crime rates in Texas and illegals are not nearly as violent as US citizens.

Wrong. Studies that claim this cherry-pick only those illegal aliens so identified at the time of arrest. Many of them aren't identified until they've been in prison for a while.

Illegals are slightly more murderous:


And a lot more rapey:


While liberals reflexively support anything that results in more rapes, especially rapes of kids (Mexicans commit child sex crimes at horrific rapes...well, rates that horrify normal people, not liberals), and outright celebrate them when brown people commit them, Texas has enough rapes and murders already. It doesn't need more.

 

[Cynicaller]

And a lot more rapey:
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I'll actually concede on that point, violent crime stats like to conveniently omit sexual assaults that weren't *technically* rape, i.e. largely arbitrary criteria aside from whether or not penetration occured.

I'm not surprised, Mexico treats its women like shit. It'd probably take two-three generations here to undo that deeply ingrained "culture".

Lmao so like 98.9% of the illegals are still on the table to be deported but we cant touch those ones? Okay ill take that trade. Not 100% what I wanted but if they're not 100% useless we can let them stay for now and always ship them out later

You're *severely* overestimating how many of them are unemployed.

And yes, I'm against demonizing the illegals themselves because- actually I don't want to regurgitate my previous post. Just read the post I made after the one you replied to.

 

[IsaACKRepentance]

It'd probably take two-three generations here to undo that deeply ingrained "culture".

Are you Mexican or living in Mexico? Confused on your usage of here.

 

[Cynicaller]

Are you Mexican or living in Mexico? Confused on your usage of here.

No, I've been around plenty of Latinos though and have visited central America before, travelling through Mexico in the process.

They just do not respect women at all, the amount of times I saw 1st generation Mexican coworkers or classmates leering openly at women or trying to cop a feel or cheating constantly is more than I care to count.

 

[SITHRAK!]

violent crime rates in Texas and illegals are not nearly as violent as US citizens.

-Illegals aren’t limited to Texas.
-They have more to lose and less economic incentive than citizens to commit crime.
-Any act of criminal violence committed by an illegal is an act that would not have occurred had the illegal not been in the country.

Just in your first few lines you’ve used the appeal to authority fallacy then backed it up with ludicrously retarded horseshit sharted out by biased researchers.

Lurk more or fuck off.

 

[TarragonRespecter]

I'm not surprised, Mexico treats its women like shit. It'd probably take two-three generations here to undo that deeply ingrained "culture".

How do you plan on undoing that culture if its going to take multiple generations to do and that is assuming we stopped taking all illegals that do that in.

You're *severely* overestimating how many of them are unemployed

When did I ever say they were unemployed? I just said 98.9% (personal estimate) dont work in hospitality on on farms. That doesnt mean they dont work other menial jobs we dont need them doing

And yes, I'm against demonizing the illegals themselves because- actually I don't want to regurgitate my previous post. Just read the post I made after the one you replied to.

Your previous posts have been disproven. The studies you cited are, obviously, cherry picked to showcase them in the best light. The reality is they should be demonized. While not all of them are in gangs they are destroying the livelyhood of the American citizenry and your fellow countrymen

 

[Cynicaller]

Just in your first few lines you’ve used the appeal to authority fallacy then backed it up with ludicrously retarded horseshit sharted out by biased researchers.

Appeal to authority fallacy? In the same reply where I'm heavily implying to basically overrule Washington in local politics?

Okay.

Also the Trump quote is direct, it's not biased reporting. I literally watched the recording, he said it word for word. Your orange daddy won't stop this.

Edit: oh wait you meant my original reply, mb.

Still, I've been around enough Latinos to know if they're not into drugs/cartel business, they're not especially violent. Sexually unhinged towards women, sure.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Appeal to authority fallacy? In the same reply where I'm heavily implying to basically overrule Washington in local politics?

That’s a different post, retard. Go back and read it again.

 

[Mister Fister]

Appeal to authority fallacy? In the same reply where I'm heavily implying to basically overrule Washington in local politics?

Okay.

Also the Trump quote is direct, it's not biased reporting. I literally watched the recording, he said it word for word. Your orange daddy won't stop this.

So, do you rely on brown people to do everything for you? Also using the term "orange daddy" makes you look like a faggot.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

How do you plan on undoing that culture if its going to take multiple generations to do and that is assuming we stopped taking all illegals that do that in.

We can start imprisoning people with slavery charges.
Nobody likes their worksite raided and the ones complaining the most about worksite raides probably house them themselves. Farmers in shit shack barracks on the land, hotels giving them their own rooms to live in.
The hotel one will be fun because it's going to be all jeets.

 

[Cynicaller]

So, do you rely on brown people to do everything for you?

No, but the millions upon millions of agricultural and supply chain jobs involved in feeding America definitely do.