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13 dead, at least 20 missing in Kerr County flooding


'13 fatalities': Kerr County officials give update on deadly flooding across South Texas

Author: David Lynch (KENS 5), Kristin Dean
Published: 1:09 PM CDT July 4, 2025
Updated: 4:14 PM CDT July 4, 2025
KERRVILLE, Texas — At Camp Mystic, along the Guadalupe River, more than 20 campers are still not accounted for. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said about 23 campers are not accounted for as of 3 p.m.

The camp had more than 700 kids, many of whom are from out of town. Officials say parents have been notified if their kids are among those missing.

Staff notified parents that all campers at Cypress Lake and Senior Hill are accounted for, adding that those whose daughters are "not accounted for" have been notified.

"We are working with search and rescue currently," the camp said in its communication. "The highway has washed away so we are struggling to get more help. Please continue to pray and send any help if you have contacts to do so."

Officials say the Ingram Elementary School will be the rendezvous point for Camp Mystic campers to reunite with families. Reports say rescued campers will be transferred via helicopter.

Representatives from Mo Ranch along the Guadalupe River say all campers and families from that camp are safe and accounted for.

Parents with kids at the camps are urged to contact camp officials directly.

This is a developing story.

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At least 13 killed in Kerrville, Texas area floods. Possibly more, the chance of them being found drops off the longer time has passed.
 
Oh no, if only someone, like the weather service that DOGE gutted and destroyed, could have predicted this and given them an advanced warning!
Elections have consequences, people
We have an on ground kiwi in the area who got alerts and it still didn’t help. I know you wanna dance on the corpses of children really, really badly to own the chuds but maybe you should take a breather and go to wherever you redditors go to wind down
 
That’s weird because I heard from a friend at the NSSL that this system was known before the 1st. I guess we can thank Big Balls for preventing that information from getting out to your forewarning alert system.
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Flash means torrential not unpredictable. You can easily forecast flash flooding and give an alert days beforehand for a window of time.
Honestly, source that is was a known system? I’m completely open to criticizing the government and if they fucked up that badly I’d like to know
 
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Honestly this is just a tragedy I feel for the parents and it is absolutely horrifying for some parent to find out they're going to have to bury their kids because mother nature flash flooded everyone.
Then again this feels like the hurricane Helene for Texas.
Im actively looking for the bodies of dead children. I wish people like you would just shut up about shit you don't understand.
Your doing God's work my dude. Also dont let the immature people get to you.
Whatever happens your doing the right thing and you shouldn't best yourself down. Also if you find yourself needing some time I understand. I've known events like this to just get to certain people my dude.
 
We have an on ground kiwi in the area who got alerts and it still didn’t help. I know you wanna dance on the corpses of children really, really badly to own the chuds but maybe you should take a breather and go to wherever you redditors go to wind down
If I tossed sacks of potatoes in the river would I count as being an a-log? Maybe he’d be enjoying the 4th of July weekend if Texas wasn’t stupid enough to scrap their state meteorology departments and advanced warning systems. Alas I guess it was an act of God and republicans could do nothing about those poor white children. They’d probably grow up to be liberals anyways, pbuh.
 
Honestly, source that is was a known system? I’m completely open to criticizing the government and if they fucked up that badly I’d like to know
Here’s some random Redditors claiming it was a concern being talked about in weather group circles for whatever that’s worth
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Honestly, source that is was a known system? I’m completely open to criticizing the government and if they fucked up that badly I’d like to know
Weather can be predicted from 8-14 days out. If you look up forecasting from the 1st to 4th you’ll see a continuing pattern of downpour, if you have access to a map you’ll see warnings in floodplains region. The truth is Texas didn’t give damn about those kids drowning because they felt like funding precautionary alert systems was a waste of billionaire dollars, hence why they sent out an alert at midnight during pitch darkness while houses full of children floated down a river.
 
Article on the floods from the Washington Post:

How extraordinary rainfall caught Texas by surprise​

Meteorologists had cautioned there was potential for flooding across Central Texas in the overnight hours late Thursday and early Friday morning. But there was little indication of just how torrential and unrelenting the downpours would become in the predawn hours, killing at least 27 people, many of them children at camp.

Radar and precipitation data and National Weather Service warnings show the floods were the result of extraordinary atmospheric conditions that sent intense plumes of Gulf of Mexico moisture into parts of Texas long known to be vulnerable to flash flooding, when bursts of heavy rain cause water to rise rapidly.
And unlike a typical summer thunderstorm that can cause quick flooding, this system formed in a way that allowed it to stall, creating deluges that repeatedly poured several inches of rain on the same areas within a matter of hours.

“The flooding damage is catastrophic,” Kerrville Police Officer Jonathan Lamb told The Washington Post. “It’s the worst flood that we’ve ever seen.”

It occurred against the backdrop of rising global temperatures, as surging fossil fuel emissions trigger the greenhouse effect, causing the most intense rainfall to become even more extreme, scientists say. Warmer air is capable of holding greater amounts of moisture, and with warming bodies of water evaporating more vapor into the air, it is raising the risks of heavy downpours like the ones hitting Texas.

Rain was still falling Saturday, with some storms pouring on the Austin and San Antonio regions at rates exceeding 5 inches per hour, the Weather Service said. North of Austin, authorities were evacuating apartment buildings along the fast-rising San Gabriel River.

Around Kerr County, where many of the deaths are believed to have occurred, the downpours dumped a widespread 10 to 15 total inches late Thursday into Friday morning, in an area west of Austin and northwest of San Antonio, a region that typically averages 28 to 32 inches of rain in a year. Instead, four months of rainfall came down in four hours.
The rain had fallen in droves in the surrounding area: In Hext, 3.25 inches of rain were reported in the hour between 6 and 7 a.m.; Mason, got 2.63 inches of rain in the hour between 5:10 and 6:10 a.m., including 0.82 inches in 15 minutes; Brady Creek got 5.35 inches between 12:30 and 2:30 a.m.; Ranch got 2.35 inches in an hour.

All that water flowed into only a few rivers, causing extreme rises. The Guadalupe River surged from seven feet to 29 feet in only a few hours in Hunt — its second-greatest height on record, according to the National Weather Service, and higher than levels reached when floodwaters rose in 1987.

At least 1.8 trillion gallons of rain fell over Texas Hill Country and the Edwards Plateau on Friday morning.

On Thursday, there was some indication of a flooding risk across this region of Central Texas through the overnight hours. But the severity of the rainfall was far from certain, and warnings did not suggest extraordinary rainfall was ahead, according to National Weather Service forecasts.

Meteorologists were watching a drifting low-pressure system for the potential for what are known as “training” storms, when downpours repeatedly regenerate over the same area. Known as a “mesoscale convective vortex,” or a weak swirl in the atmosphere about 20 or 30 miles across, the system was circulating intense Gulf moisture northward like a pinwheel, feeding the storms with a whirlpool of robust tropical moisture.

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Barry — which dissipated over northeastern Mexico about five days earlier — left behind an intensely moist air mass. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration models suggest that water vapor wafted into Texas.

Thursday afternoon, forecasters at the Weather Service office in San Angelo noted that there was potential for the storm system and all of that moisture to converge, but it was far from clear that could produce catastrophic floods.

“If this happens in this air mass [with precipitable water values soaring well above normal values] rainfall could be torrential and flash flooding would develop very quickly,” forecasters at the Weather Service office in San Angelo wrote Thursday afternoon. “Still, these features are so weak and the interaction so complicated, if and where this band develops remains uncertain.”

They issued the flood watch through early Friday acknowledging “the potential for a lower probability but much higher impact flood event overnight.”

A flood watch issued across the region through 7 a.m. Saturday cautioned 1 to 2 inches of widespread rainfall was likely, and that a narrow band of rainfall totaling 3 to 5 inches could develop, likely causing flooding.

But by 4 a.m., it became clear the rainfall was far more intense than that.

In a 4:26 a.m. Facebook post, the San Angelo meteorologists wrote: “**This is a life-threatening situation** 6 to 10 inches of rain has fallen and an additional 3 to 4 inches is expected through daybreak. Expect rapid rises on creeks, rivers and arroyos.”

One rain gauge in Mason County reported more than 18 inches of rain within 24 hours, the Weather Service confirmed.

Ocean temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico have remained above average for months, likely adding extra fuel — in the form of water vapor — to intensify the flooding disaster.

Total atmospheric moisture was in the top 0.5 percent of historical observations for this region of Texas. Every column of atmosphere was holding 2.25 inches of moisture that could be squeezed out by downpours — but that air mass was continually fed into storms. It’s as if all the water from a sponge had been squeezed out, before the sponge was dipped back into the bucket of water again.

Every squeeze brought more rain.

Storms continued to linger over Central Texas on Saturday because there was a dearth of winds strong enough to push it away entirely.
A moderate (Level 3 out of 4) risk for excessive rainfall continues in the region through early Saturday morning, with the potential for rain and thunderstorms to reintensify, according to the Weather Service.

The devastation beared similarities to another flood along the Guadalupe River almost 40 years ago.

Ten teenagers were killed and 33 others were injured on July 16, 1987, when a bus and van leaving a church camp encountered floodwaters caused by 5 to 10 inches of rainfall in the upper headwaters of the Guadalupe River basin, according to the National Weather Service. A massive flood wave traveled through Ingram, Kerrville, and Comfort, driving the evacuation of hundreds of people along the river and its tributaries.

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I don't think any VFD (mostly volunteer out there) over there is prepared for this. I don't do swiftwater but I don't think that situation was safe (I heard there were civvies pulling kids during the inital flood) for rope rescue of any kind unless you're dangling from a helo. Anything out there for this would be TESAR, or more likely TX-TF1 (College Station), and TX-TF2 (Dallas/Ft. Worth) under TEEX and FEMA.

I hope you get dragged to death like those niggers caught in East Texas. It'll fix the second biggest mistake your mother made after not swallowing.
Weirdly some of the Voley's are better preparred for weird unexpected shit. Especially water rescue. It just depends on their budgets. They will practice more water rescue than municipal departments, because summer is hot and they drill on Saturdays or Sundays. And it gives them an excuse to go to the beach and barbecue. Plus they got all this cool Federal Grant water shit sitting around that the Chief insists they play with.

Whereas the bigger the municipal services get, the more the weird shit gets put on the shoulders of more specialized rescue or marine units. They will have a much more skilled core of specialists. But the skills will not be spread as broadly through the department.

Note this only applies to weird rare shit. Actual day to day Fire and Rescue skills the Municipals are far more prepared.
 
Let the blame game between government officials commence.
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The NWS has the most sophisticated weather models in the world. No foreign weather prediction model even comes close. Meanwhile Texas does not have a great track record with handling natural disasters (compare Florida), so maybe they should hold off on the blame game until more information is known.
 
We have talked about getting flood sirens in the past. But we never could raise enough money. I really hope this event is what makes people finally see how important they are.
Does the area not have Tornado Sirens? Normally things like a Flood alert are just a different wail pattern. Mixed with the Alert going out over the NOAA alert system hitting all radios, this and smartphones.
 
What kind of alerts can you have in place for this stuff? Is it even possible to have a system where rain in a certain catchment or rises in certain places triggers an alert/watch cascade?

There's weather alerts and NWS Radios will go off. But it was the middle of the night and any text message or whatever likely went unheard. https://www.atxfloods.com is a good website for road closings. But ultimately, as someone said upthread, it's a FLASH flood. Shit happens quick, it's not a hurricane rolling in where you got like 3 days to figure stuff out.
 
It can rain like a motherfucker in the Kerrville area.

Remember one time heading back to San Antonio from San Angelo on I-10. It was raining so hard the only way to be sure I was on the road was to get right in the middle of the freeway and follow the Botts dots. Didn't want to pull over. Just lucky nobody hit me.

This was during the 87-92 time frame, not sure exactly when. Made about a hundred round trips on that road over those five years.
 
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