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BullfrogBill said:
You have to spend money to make money. Everyone knew it was going to cost money to build the wall and deport the millions of illegals invading the country. This is good money to spend, money we voted to spend when we voted for Trump. Opposed to taxpayers spending money on weapons for Isreal or Ukraine, or any of the massive government scams like USAid. We were never going to pay the deficit in the position we were in before, we were going to keep sinking and drowning as we have been for years and doing nothing to stop it like Elon or Massie wants is suicide. We've already cut historical amounts of government spending in Trump's first six months as it is, if not for that I might be more concerned about the spending, but I'd still support the end goal of the majority of BBB's spending.

Unironically, if you want a healthy economy that can work towards paying off the deficit, then we need to get all of the illegals deported first to make that a reality. It's step 1. And that means spending money to complete the wall and super fund ICE. I'm not gonna say the BBB is perfect but it is a solid step towards the change we voted for. We've already saved billions of dollars from cutting wasteful expenses so it's not the Doomsday scenario Democrats and Libertarians are making it out to be.
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Brave of you to try and explain basic economics to a leftist
Turkey Beef said:
The degenerate fiends comprising the entertainment industry install opinions in an alarming number of empty heads, as evidenced by the apparent viability of the Democrat Party in urban areas. They are the last creatures on earth to be influencing the culture. Paul Joseph Watson elucidates:
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I don't think there is a single topic that I would want to hear Paul Joseph Watson's take on.
 
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Sekirodiealot said:
The real thing that annoys me about people that criticizes trump this sense of self-importance they have like it makes them some sort of hero.
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We are Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na'vi and Han Solo. We're escaping from Shawshank and blowing up the Death Star. We are fighting with the Harkonnens and challenging Thanos.
 
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The Big A said:
While there are traditionalist movements that reject Vatican II and the pozz teachings of the last few decades, the Catholic reverence to hierarchy and position have come around to bite them in the ass. Most conservative minded Catholics outright agree that Vatican II has produced nothing but bad fruit and has wrecked the church, but they still revere the very propigators of these teachings while calling them heretical and even blasphemous
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Obviously, the most baséd thing a future bishop of Rome could do is to declare ex cathedra, either as a result of a council or by decree, that the decrees of Vatican II were  not the product of a leading of the Holy Spirit and thus invalid as dogma of the Church and not a part of the Official Magesterium.

However, doing that would open a whole NEW can of worms regarding such fundamental things as, for instance, apostolic succession. That is, how could the church claim an unbroken line going back to Peter the apostle since the new rites of ordination and of consecration are considered by autistic traditionalists as invalid because of the changes that VII made to those rites?

That's one reason old traditionalists didn't truly see Bergoglio as even a valid priest, much less a bishop (and thus ineligible to be pope) because he was ordained a priest and consecrated a bishop under the new rites, which are flawed to convey any authority in the church. And I don't believe there are any bishops still alive who were consecrated under the pre-VII rite who could validly consecrate new bishops.

(It would also raise a host of other questions, but that's a biggie.)
 
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Frank_Jaeger said:
And now two dozen have drowned in floods no one saw coming because DOGE gutted the weather services
Got what they voted for!
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You are so right. Every weather event before DOGE was 100% accurately predicted and never veered from those predictions. Whatever will we do now that DOGE has saved us billions of dollars.
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
Does that really have anything to do with the DOGE cuts?
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Frank's been doing his drive by lib bit for years. He's running out of material.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
Every time Tucker posts an interview it causes every other right wing commentator and @Catch The Rainbow to seethe big time. That's how you know Tucker is talking some real and quality stuff the MSM and controlled opposition don't want talked about. I love it.
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That wasn't the question I asked. I wanna hear what the Iranian president says, even if it's drivel.
 
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Mister Fister said:
Hulk, you like Latinas? I didn’t know you were a white nationalist. ;)
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Latinas are the best.

BullfrogBill said:
You have to spend money to make money. Everyone knew it was going to cost money to build the wall and deport the millions of illegals invading the country. This is good money to spend, money we voted to spend when we voted for Trump. Opposed to taxpayers spending money on weapons for Isreal or Ukraine, or any of the massive government scams like USAid. We were never going to pay the deficit in the position we were in before, we were going to keep sinking and drowning as we have been for years and doing nothing to stop it like Elon or Massie wants is suicide. We've already cut historical amounts of government spending in Trump's first six months as it is, if not for that I might be more concerned about the spending, but I'd still support the end goal of the majority of BBB's spending.

Unironically, if you want a healthy economy that can work towards paying off the deficit, then we need to get all of the illegals deported first to make that a reality. It's step 1. And that means spending money to complete the wall and super fund ICE. I'm not gonna say the BBB is perfect but it is a solid step towards the change we voted for. We've already saved billions of dollars from cutting wasteful expenses so it's not the Doomsday scenario Democrats and Libertarians are making it out to be.
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Lol so you're fine with printing money and inflation and expanding government as long as it's done by Republicans. You're just another partisan shill. We didn't cut historical spending, retard. Spending is higher than ever (and even higher now thanks to this bill that you should hate but you love because you love Trump more than anything in the world).

You vastly overestimate how much federal money is spent on illegal immigrants versus how much they bring in, too.

As I said, this bill adds $4 trillion to the deficit. DOGE claimed to have saved $190 billion (which is likely to be a very very very overestimate). You obviously don't give a fuck about the deficit or you wouldn't be cheering on tax cuts for the rich. Like I said, you love increasing the deficit, money printing and the inflation that comes with it as long as it's done by Republicans. Just another partisan hack.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
You have to spend money to make money. Everyone knew it was going to cost money to build the wall and deport the millions of illegals invading the country. This is good money to spend, money we voted to spend when we voted for Trump. Opposed to taxpayers spending money on weapons for Isreal or Ukraine, or any of the massive government scams like USAid. We were never going to pay the deficit in the position we were in before, we were going to keep sinking and drowning as we have been for years and doing nothing to stop it like Elon or Massie wants is suicide. We've already cut historical amounts of government spending in Trump's first six months as it is, if not for that I might be more concerned about the spending, but I'd still support the end goal of the majority of BBB's spending.

Unironically, if you want a healthy economy that can work towards paying off the deficit, then we need to get all of the illegals deported first to make that a reality. It's step 1. And that means spending money to complete the wall and super fund ICE. I'm not gonna say the BBB is perfect but it is a solid step towards the change we voted for. We've already saved billions of dollars from cutting wasteful expenses so it's not the Doomsday scenario Democrats and Libertarians are making it out to be.
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The amount of programs cut already has saved us billions and billions in the long term. We aren't bleeding nearly as hard anymore. And now we're gutting shit like the EPA with the BBB, meaning companies like auto makers and manufacturers can make money now that energy is going to be cheap since we aren't screaming about carbon.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
We always need tax cuts. You can never cut too much taxes.
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A whole lot of the OBBB "deficit increase" is speculation over how much more money in taxes would have been collected if the 2016 Trump tax cuts had been allowed to lapse. Federal tax revenue has been increasing on the same trajectory since 2008, basically mirroring money printing, regardless of changes to the tax code.
 
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