Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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I was saying that a loli is usually like 5-12, not teenagers
Lolicon is the body type. Prepubescent looking body type. The age of a loli does not matter. Even if she's canon of adolescent age(13-19 years old) , but has that specific body type and "anatomy" that is usually supposed to represent a prepubescent body, she's a loli.
Thus why sometimes lolicons joke about "legal lolis". Girls that are 18-19 years olds but with prepubescent bodies.
 
I looked into Ririgaki.

Ririgaki first started out under the alias Ririmiaou. This 1st started out on Twitch, but she had a Fansly account, which had "feet pics" and other weird shit. Here's an example of this, where another man's hand is in this image:
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>Swarthy autistic racist Frenchie from the south with a really cute accent
>Also blacked pedophile
Thank God, I was so close to simping for a vt*ber holy shit
 
Lolicon is the body type. Prepubescent looking body type. The age of a loli does not matter. Even if she's canon of adolescent age(13-19 years old) , but has that specific body type and "anatomy" that is usually supposed to represent a prepubescent body, she's a loli.
Thus why sometimes lolicons joke about "legal lolis". Girls that are 18-19 years olds but with prepubescent bodies.
That is true. 5-12 is a good rule but it isn't the end all be all. Point is, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
 
If i'm understanding the right, the misunderstanding you two are having is over pedophilia and heeb shit being rolled into one thing, where moral relativism says that one is worse than the other? I just want to make sure I get it.
I'm more just going over what the term originally meant.
Originally, 10-12. (Russian Novel)
Historically, prepubescent to teenage girls. (Trainers book)
Nowadays, the above, plus adults that are short/flat.

Megumin is a loli, even the fucking creators say it.
 
Reminder that fucking and impregnating young teens who have just had their first menstral cycle is not "evolutionarily advantagous" and in fact will causes severe problems for the child, if not outright killing the mother in the process.

Source: see Mr. Enter being a groomed birth to a 15 year old mother from a mid 20s old man.
 
pointing out pedos are more fucked up than they are without extraneous extra speculation shit attached
Yeah because she's a kid and not everyone develops into full adult proportions by the age she's at.
If I had to wager a guess, stuff like this is why people take issue with your posts. You claim to want to "point out pedos" but then your next post is about how a "kid" character with child-like proportions isn't technically a loli despite her being explicitly labeled as such in-universe per @WelperHelper99. It definitely sends a mixed message about what exactly you think you're contributing to the discussion and it comes off a bit like troll shielding.

Just because "not everyone develops into full adult proportions" in their mid teens doesn't mean we shouldn't call a spade a spade in the context of this conversation.
 
This, in my humble opinion, is why she left. She was rich. They made her a superstar. This wasn't enough though. She had realized her audience at that point. Pedophile Lolicons. So she created Saba.
This doesn't really make sense tbh. If, as you allege, the main body of her fanbase as Gura was lolicons then I don't see why switching characters was necessary and if her primary goal was to milk them then streaming more seems like the obvious move, but her output for the last few years was pretty subdued. It seems much more likely that her goal was to escape the corporate yoke and she was confident enough of her audience would migrate to keep her afloat. She went from 4.7 million subscribers to 1.2 million so if her main objective was sitting on a dragon horde of pedophile simp dollars then this seems like a silly move.

The model being better than her old models seems to be the natural progression of her career and not like a targeted move to better jack people off. From what I saw of her content as Gura it seems like some of the most mild shit floating around the vtubersphere and the new channel seems to be continuing this trajectory. Your entire summary reads like a bit of a hostile mischaracterization but if she starts doing little sister ear eating ASMR I'm prepared to eat my words.

One thing I would like to say is that I feel like there's something to these channels that little girls make of themselves playing with the littlest pet shop dolls, if I remember right, I think a few other members of Hololive EN did the same thing, and I'm sure if you dug through many femmecows, you'd see a pattern there. My only guess is that it's some kind of autistic outlet, but I wonder what the deeper part of it is, since more often than not its these same dolls.
Those toys were really popular with little girls for a while so it seems more likely they're just indulging in a some nostalgia. The girl equivalent of you looking back fondly on Bionicles (if you were lucky enough to get to play with Bionicles).
 
I'm more just going over what the term originally meant.
Originally, 10-12. (Russian Novel)
Historically, prepubescent to teenage girls. (Trainers book)
Nowadays, the above, plus adults that are short/flat.

Megumin is a loli, even the fucking creators say it.
I disagree on the megumin thing even if it has creator confirmation given there are characters that look similar and aren't ever referred to as that sort of thing. Please note this does not make it less horrible to jerk it to the anime kid. I have specified constantly that it's still bad and pedoshit the way people talk about the character online even if I do not consider it the same "flavor" of horrible pedoshit.

If I had to wager a guess, stuff like this is why people take issue with your posts. You claim to want to "point out pedos" but then your next post is about how a "kid" character with child-like proportions isn't technically a loli despite her being explicitly labeled as such in-universe per @WelperHelper99. It definitely sends a mixed message about what exactly you think you're contributing to the discussion.

Just because "not everyone develops into full adult proportions" in their mid teens doesn't mean we shouldn't call a spade a spade in the context of this conversation.
Stop. Please just fucking stop.
It's definitely suspicious activity, though it could be chalked up to him being a sperg. I'll wait to draw further conclusions.
STOP.
 
This doesn't really make sense tbh. If, as you allege, the main body of her fanbase as Gura was lolicons then I don't see why switching characters was necessary and if her primary goal was to milk them then streaming more seems like the obvious move, but her output for the last few years was pretty subdued. It seems much more likely that her goal was to escape the corporate yoke and she was confident enough of her audience would migrate to keep her afloat. She went from 4.7 million subscribers to 1.2 million so if her main objective was sitting on a dragon horde of pedophile simp dollars then this seems like a silly move.

The model being better than her old models seems to be the natural progression of her career and not like a targeted move to better jack people off. From what I saw of her content as Gura it seems like some of the most mild shit floating around the vtubersphere and the new channel seems to be continuing this trajectory. Your entire summary reads like a bit of a hostile mischaracterization but if she starts doing little sister ear eating ASMR I'm prepared to eat my words.
She is gaining thousands and thousands of new subscribers daily. She hit 1 million in just over a week. Her old fanbase is finding its way back.

As for the Avatar, it is better than what ANY corpo would pay for. Easily 5 figures. I have never seen something like this outside fucking Hollywood. Her old avatar looks like a joke and it's paying off. Every stream you will see an endless supply of memberships flow in. And now that Hololive isn't taking a cut, she is getting more cash than ever. She is draining those pedos dry.
 
She is gaining thousands and thousands of new subscribers daily. She hit 1 million in just over a week. Her old fanbase is finding its way back.

As for the Avatar, it is better than what ANY corpo would pay for. Easily 5 figures. I have never seen something like this outside fucking Hollywood. Her old avatar looks like a joke and it's paying off. Every stream you will see an endless supply of memberships flow in. And now that Hololive isn't taking a cut, she is getting more cash than ever. She is draining those pedos dry.
Blows my fucking mind how much money she's making. Our dystopian future of girlfriend robots and vr-headsets in every household is arriving in no time when the corporations realize their value.
 
As for the Avatar, it is better than what ANY corpo would pay for. Easily 5 figures. I have never seen something like this outside fucking Hollywood. Her old avatar looks like a joke and it's paying off. Every stream you will see an endless supply of memberships flow in. And now that Hololive isn't taking a cut, she is getting more cash than ever. She is draining those pedos dry.
I've seen a lot of better avatars for mocap live2d stuff that aren't corpo stuff. I've actually seen cases where people's model gets worse when they swap it out for the streamer network corpo thing. I can't remember exactly who it was but there was someone someone posted about like a few months back in maybe one of the vtuber threads somewhere that got a corpo deal and kept their mocap "character" where the rigging was significantly worse than the previous model. Also less unique style but that's another story.

The fact this got put out so fast though is 100% a result of money being put to use to commission a bunch of people to make something extremely high quality extremely fast. There is a non zero percent chance a big chunk of it is from the lolicons.

The character is referred to as a loli by the people that created her.
Lolis are historically pre-teen to teenage girls.
She is a loli, you dense motherfucker.


This will be my last response to this pointless circular argument.
Stop fucking snipping my posts down to a single word.
 
Blows my fucking mind how much money she's making. Our dystopian future of girlfriend robots and vr-headsets in every household is arriving in no time when the corporations realize their value.
But yes, they are just pixels! Right? They have no meaning and aren't real! Yet.....
 
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She is gaining thousands and thousands of new subscribers daily. She hit 1 million in just over a week. Her old fanbase is finding its way back.

As for the Avatar, it is better than what ANY corpo would pay for. Easily 5 figures. I have never seen something like this outside fucking Hollywood. Her old avatar looks like a joke and it's paying off. Every stream you will see an endless supply of memberships flow in. And now that Hololive isn't taking a cut, she is getting more cash than ever. She is draining those pedos dry.
I suppose time will tell but an explosive start isn't unusual for indie vtubers and especially ex-corpos. Idk man if the goal was to drain pedos dry then there's an entire industry sector of whoretubers she could be emulating at the moment.
 
then I don't see why switching characters was necessary
It seems much more likely that her goal was to escape the corporate yoke
As for the Avatar, it is better than what ANY corpo would pay for.

It's not that hard to figure out:

The Corporates kept her from going full Lolicon-Embracer.

So of course, the average viewers got "gatekept" by the even-more-blatant Lolicon avatar [ie: The 3 million subscriber difference]
 
Blows my fucking mind how much money she's making. Our dystopian future of girlfriend robots and vr-headsets in every household is arriving in no time when the corporations realize their value.
She spent a fuck ton to make a even greater fuck ton. Insanity.

I've seen a lot of better avatars for mocap live2d stuff that aren't corpo stuff. I've actually seen cases where people's model gets worse when they swap it out for the streamer network corpo thing. I can't remember exactly who it was but there was someone someone posted about like a few months back in maybe one of the vtuber threads somewhere that got a corpo deal and kept their mocap "character" where the rigging was significantly worse than the previous model. Also less unique style but that's another story.

The fact this got put out so fast though is 100% a result of money being put to use to commission a bunch of people to make something extremely high quality extremely fast. There is a non zero percent chance a big chunk of it is from the lolicons.
No Vtuber has better. The rigging looks like Pixar from the good era. It is smooth and fluid. She shelled out a fuck ton for a full avatar that has shit like legs, moving ears, and a disappearing belly window. She paid up the fucking nose for this Metal Gear. A Loli Gear if you will.
 
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