Argue with Lidl whether you can be a nationalist right winger if you enjoy anime ft. people who who hate Western media - "I don't watch anime, I was just making fun of Jimcels by highlighting the fact that gooning to pervy nip cartoons is not compatible with conservative values."

[carto-ro]

It's a bit reductionist sure, but if you're super into anime then I don't really think your opinion on nationalism is worth much.
Why exactly is this controversial? Are you saying that conservatism, which is literally defined by adherence to traditional values, is actually just fine with a bunch of adults being so into animated cartoons, that they cease to care about the existence of pedophiles in their midst? Because I think you might be more of a libertarian in that case. Which is fine, I suppose.

Again, Jim is the one doing the stream about how America is so based for being conservative because normal people are fucking sick of these degenerate freaks. I agree with it. But I don't then return to my loli goon cave, smugly satisfied about a job well done. It rings hollow.

That argument applies to every form of entertainment. How is a member of the [Insert college here] booster club conservative if he spends more money on sportsball than his political opinion? How is any "surrogate activity" (as some might call these vain pursuits to use our mental and physical energies on non-essential problems) conservative? Are religious people conservative? After all there are tons of stories of youth abuse in churches. If they were serious wouldn't they just get rid of these people? What about music? Can I be into that, after all there is all the Diddy shit and R Kelly, and let's not talk about MJ or Elvis or virtually any artist at all. It's silly to pearl clutch about anime, a genre which lumps together people that only watch "slice of life", people that only watch shit like Gundam, and people that are into more artsy anime like Memories that avoids the common tropes altogether.

This weird image some people have of anime is bizarre. Like, you know that the biggest is Ghibli, and so you ignore that like 50% of Ghibli's output is retellings of English kid's literature, and then pick out a weird scene in a film based on an autobiographical short story about surviving the firebombings of WW2 as a kid to tar the whole studio. The most influential anime have almost nothing to do with kids at all, shit like Dragon Ball, Fist of the North Star, Gundam, movies like Akira, these have some cultural weirdness, but it's all as culturally awkward as weird shit you can find in old bond movies or westerns. I don't buy that Jim is a lolicon for reading manga, just like I don't buy that a Stephen King fan is a pedo because they have read IT. Unless you all are ready to renounce Literature and Film this grandstanding is silly.

 

[drammamean]

I think it comes more from a place of emotional manipulation, as opposed to hidden pedophiliac messages.
That title deals with the attrocities of war and the human misery it inflicts. So, when you're trying to convey such a message, you can further amplify it by using children instead of adults, because nobody likes to see kids suffer.

There's plenty of other examples, if you wanted to highlight the japs dysfunctional sexual attraction to children, but the example you gave is a big stretch.

I only bothered to reply to this because, even if you believe someone or something is guilty, you should not make shit up or misconstrue facts. You only hurt your position.

Except you didn't respond to his point. He's not asking why the main characters are children, he's asking why one of them, a little girl, was shown urinating, which is a good question because it's fucking weird.

It's no wonder Japan's birthrate is so low, a significant portion of the men are fucking creeps.

 

[Wodanaz]

That argument applies to every form of entertainment.

every form of entertainment does not have a very vocal subculture of pedophiles and open secrets and dogwhistles and shit about child sexualization

 

[not william stenchever]

1. Anime is GENERALLY (but not always im sure there is an exception i can't think of) for faggots

Trigun, Cowboy Beebop, and Ghost in the Shell would probably be good exceptions.

Also when I was a kid I wanted my dad to be Goku because he was also cool and didn't afraid of anything.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

every form of entertainment does not have a very vocal subculture of pedophiles and open secrets and dogwhistles and shit about child sexualization

It also just feels dishonest when ppl argue this here? No one is criticizing metokur for liking a ghibli movie or watching death note.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Trigun, Cowboy Beebop, and Ghost in the Shell would probably be good exceptions.

Also when I was a kid I wanted my dad to be Goku because he was also cool and didn't afraid of anything.

I love that conservatively dressed laydey with her thong out in this conservative annie may. And that brown child with the midriff.



Sorry but being weird and pervy is just part of japanese culture.

 

[Preacher ✝]

Sorry but being weird and pervy is just part of japanese culture.

That's true but the way Faye and Ed are dressed is a pretty shallow reason to discount Cowboy Bebop.

 

[Lidl Drip]

That's true but the way Faye and Ed are dressed is a pretty shallow reason to discount Cowboy Bebop.

The point is that you can't claim to be a conservative traditional man and also watch Japanese cartoons. The way she is dressed does not align with conservative values. I haven't seen this annie-may but from a quick google search it's quite clear that the Faye character is very sexualized. The brown child is sus.

 

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The point is that you can't claim to be a conservative traditional man and also watch Japanese cartoons. The way she is dressed does not align with conservative values. I haven't seen this annie-may but from a quick google search it's quite clear that the Faye character is very sexualized. The brown child is sus.

A child simply existing in an anime doesn't make it pedo, and Faye is clearly an adult.

I was afraid we might've been getting too prudish in this thread. Glad a real prude showed up as a frame of reference.

 

[Preacher ✝]

The point is that you can't claim to be a conservative traditional man and also watch Japanese cartoons.

I understand your point but you've picked such a poor example to back it up with that it is undercutting its effectiveness.

That isn't to say I agree with such a hard line stance on the matter, but I understand what you're trying to say and thus why this is a bad way to go about saying it.

The way she is dressed does not align with conservative values.

I agree, if I had a daughter I wouldn't want her to dress like that. However we cannot deny that real women do go out dressed like that. Just because real life doesnt align with conservative values doesnt mean we should boycott all media that reflects those parts of life.

I haven't seen this annie-may but from a quick google search it's quite clear that the Faye character is very sexualized.

So the premise of Cowboy Bebop is that they are space bounty hunters. Faye employs a sort of femme fatale strategy, dressing like that and being flirty with a bounty target to lower his guard before making the arrest. It doesn't always work out for her but that is a legitimate strategy. One thing to note about Faye and something I've always liked about Bebop is that they never make her a romantic interest for the male leads. In a group dynamic she's more like an annoying sister to them than anything else.

Additionally Faye is very well written and has a fascinating back story. She's not like a vapid bimbo.

Anime has a well earned reputation for being horny, but Bebop is not like that.

The brown child is sus.

That's Ed. She's never sexaualized in anyway and is also an extremely autistic tech savant. Ed is so unsexualized that many people who watch Bebop don't even realize she's a girl.

Also she's not brown, just very tan because her family travels the earth trying to map out all the craters that are formed by space debris.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Anime has a well earned reputation for being horny, but Bebop is not like that.

I hate all of you anime niggers so much

 

[Lidl Drip]

Guys the thigh high hotpants cameltoe thong jiggleboob lady is basically a tradwife and gooning to her aligns with my conservative values.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The point is that you can't claim to be a conservative traditional man and also watch Japanese cartoons. The way she is dressed does not align with conservative values. I haven't seen this annie-may but from a quick google search it's quite clear that the Faye character is very sexualized. The brown child is sus.

I could be remembering this wrong but I'm fairly sure the kid isn't sexualized at all from what I remember of the show when i saw it way back when and just acts like a sperglet. If you look at the rest of the cast that isn't the intended "sex appeal" character faye you immediately notice a common theme going on with the outfits being kind of thing you'd wear in warm weather. Even the spike guy who's in a suit has his sleeves rolled up. Kind of also lines up with the look of the environmental shots I can find looking up screengrabs of the show

I really wish sometimes I could draw background shit as solid as old cel animation studios could.
EDIT: Lmao I just realized the guy on the right in the last image is in the same outfit sans shoes.

 

[not william stenchever]

I hate all of you anime niggers so much
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Through the power of autism I found the spaceships more interesting than the body of the perpetual fuckup hoe.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I could be remembering this wrong but I'm fairly sure the kid isn't sexualized at all from what I remember of the show when i saw it way back when and just acts like a sperglet. If you look at the rest of the cast that isn't the intended "sex appeal" character faye you immediately notice a common theme going on with the outfits being kind of thing you'd wear in warm weather. Even the spike guy who's in a suit has his sleeves rolled up. Kind of also lines up with the look of the environemental shots I can find looking up screengrabs of the show
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So true, how can you stay cool without a thong riding up your coochie? Impossible. The man wearing all black long pants long sleeves but rolled up is dressed basically the same as the woman with her buttcheeks hanging out her shorts. The fact she wears thigh high socks is because she gets hot everywhere except her legs.

Pls stop embarrassing yourselves. The gaslighting anime niggers do is unreal.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

I could be remembering this wrong but I'm fairly sure the kid isn't sexualized at all from what I remember of the show when i saw it way back when and just acts like a sperglet. If you look at the rest of the cast that isn't the intended "sex appeal" character faye you immediately notice a common theme going on with the outfits being kind of thing you'd wear in warm weather. Even the spike guy who's in a suit has his sleeves rolled up. Kind of also lines up with the look of the environmental shots I can find looking up screengrabs of the show
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I really wish sometimes I could draw background shit as solid as old cel animation studios could.
EDIT: Lmao I just realized the guy on the right in the last image is in the same outfit sans shoes.

The third picture that you posted contains an actually conservatively dressed woman. The producers know exactly what they're doing by putting a woman in shorts, g-string and a revealing top. I'll be generous and forego discussing the prepubescent child in a revealing outfit.

 

[Preacher ✝]

Guys the thigh high hotpants cameltoe thong jiggleboob lady is basically a tradwife and gooning to her aligns with my conservative values.

It's not an either or situation. I do not condone gooning and I do not consider Faye Valentine a tradwife or even a rolemodel for women or a representation of conservative values.

What kind of media do you find acceptable? Is the statue of David wrong because his dick is out? Where's the line?

 

[The Lawgiver]

The third picture that you posted contains an actually conservatively dressed woman. The producers know exactly what they're doing by putting a woman in shorts, g-string and a revealing top. I'll be generous and forego discussing the prepubescent child in a revealing outfit.

You are actively ignoring what I said to spin shit. Stop.

If you look at the rest of the cast that isn't the intended "sex appeal" character faye you immediately notice a common theme going on with the outfits being kind of thing you'd wear in warm weather.

EDIT: I realized I said isn't instead of aren't, improper grammar. fucking tired man.

 

[Lidl Drip]

It's not an either or situation. I do not condone gooning and I do not consider Faye Valentine a tradwife or even a rolemodel for women or a representation of conservative values.

What kind of media do you find acceptable? Is the statue of David wrong because his dick is out? Where's the line?

If you can't tell the difference between a greek statue and a nip cartoon I really can't help you. Just call yourself something else like libertarian.

 

[TV's Adam West]

Guys the thigh high hotpants cameltoe thong jiggleboob lady is basically a tradwife and gooning to her aligns with my conservative values.

To be fair, I see women dressed like that at my gas station.