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That would be smarter than what they're actually doing which is capturing areas, clearing them, withdrawing from them, and repeat.
See this shit? This is why many people here regard you as a JIDF/ACT.IL shill and a liar. Because you’re claiming Israel Dindu Nuffin again when we’re all five clicks away from IDF videos on YouTube that prove you wrong.

IDF isn’t ‘clearing’ shit. There is copious footage on YouTube of IDF members celebrating the punitive destruction of civilian homes using not only plastic explosives but also things like repurposed anti-tank mines- I suspect for ‘use it or we have to spend money disarming and disposing of it’ reasons.

They’re going into abandoned homes, breaking shit and looting, dancing around in the occupants’ women’s lingerie and underwear (must be a Jew thing) then wiring the homes and blowing them up. There was even a ‘gender reveal’ done by an IDF soldier by blowing up a Palestinian home.

Not to mention that they’re also now destroying homes in the West Bank, not that anyone from there has massacred 40 babies by decapitation or any of that shit as justification.

I get that you want to defend Israel and the IDF but holy shit dude, you need to take a step back before you post complete fiction. Dropping blatant lies and propaganda isn’t doing anything to win you and your people any friends.
 
See this shit? This is why many people here regard you as a JIDF/ACT.IL shill and a liar. Because you’re claiming Israel Dindu Nuffin again when we’re all five clicks away from IDF videos on YouTube that prove you wrong.

IDF isn’t ‘clearing’ shit. There is copious footage on YouTube of IDF members celebrating the punitive destruction of civilian homes using not only plastic explosives but also things like repurposed anti-tank mines- I suspect for ‘use it or we have to spend money disarming and disposing of it’ reasons.

They’re going into abandoned homes, breaking shit and looting, dancing around in the occupants’ women’s lingerie and underwear (must be a Jew thing) then wiring the homes and blowing them up. There was even a ‘gender reveal’ done by an IDF soldier by blowing up a Palestinian home.

Not to mention that they’re also now destroying homes in the West Bank, not that anyone from there has massacred 40 babies by decapitation or any of that shit as justification.

I get that you want to defend Israel and the IDF but holy shit dude, you need to take a step back before you post complete fiction. Dropping blatant lies and propaganda isn’t doing anything to win you and your people any friends.
The only conclusion that any rational person can come to is that the kike knows he's evil and doesn't care. You're not jewish so you're not a person worthy of respect or dignity. In my life, I've found the vast majority of jews are like this. I had a buddy in the military named Rubenstein. The dude was a White kid born to a crack head that a couple of jews adopted. All his brothers and sisters went to prestigious schools and he enlisted in the military because his parents "couldn't afford" to send him to the nice schools his siblings went too.

They literally raised a kid from birth and he was still an outsider to them who might as well go to the front lines with the rest of the goys who were forced to get shot at in order to have a chance at a respectable existence.
 
You're not jewish so you're not a person worthy of respect or dignity. In my life, I've found the vast majority of jews are like this. I had a buddy in the military named Rubenstein. The dude was a White kid born to a crack head that a couple of jews adopted. All his brothers and sisters went to prestigious schools and he enlisted in the military because his parents "couldn't afford" to send him to the nice schools his siblings went too.

They literally raised a kid from birth and he was still an outsider to them who might as well go to the front lines with the rest of the goys who were forced to get shot at in order to have a chance at a respectable existence.
Why do you think I decided long ago that using the same tactics they use against my race is the only way with them? Whether IRL or online.
 
See this shit? This is why many people here regard you as a JIDF/ACT.IL shill and a liar. Because you’re claiming Israel Dindu Nuffin again when we’re all five clicks away from IDF videos on YouTube that prove you wrong.

IDF isn’t ‘clearing’ shit. There is copious footage on YouTube of IDF members celebrating the punitive destruction of civilian homes using not only plastic explosives but also things like repurposed anti-tank mines- I suspect for ‘use it or we have to spend money disarming and disposing of it’ reasons.
Why are you taking the common terminology used for areas that have been swept of terrorists and extrapolating an endorsement of everything the IDF does on top of it? I'm simply describing a tactical failure of the IDF. As Seth Franzman writes:

Most of the city has been badly damaged or destroyed in the war. However, there is a false perception that destroying areas in Gaza or razing whole communities will make the terrorists go away. In fact, the rubble and destruction may only provide a false sense of victory. The terrorists return to the wreckage. Terrorists hiding in rubble are just as challenging to find as those operating in an urban area untouched by war.

The rubble may even help the terrorists hide, as it initially gives the impression that an area has been cleared or “pacified

He goes on to say

Later, Operation Gideon’s Chariots was launched in May to regain IDF control over approximately 60%-70% of the enclave.

The theory was that the military would control these areas permanently this time. No more raids into areas and then leaving, such that the enemy returns and the ground has to be repeatedly retaken.

Beit Hanun is a microcosm representation of Gaza. The IDF has cleared it several times. Most Israeli commentators who follow IDF operations noted on Tuesday that the area has been retaken numerous times.

Yet, the enemy was able to set up an apparently complex ambush. The same methods were used to soften up the area before the IDF entered with infantry.


I'm simply pointing out the lack of effectiveness and bad policy. I didn't say anything about how they clear or my personal opinion on it because I'm not going to write out a detailed mea culpa for a quick observation
 
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I am angry, like everyone else, that they are covering up the names. However, I know that any elected president only holds power for four years, or eight if re-elected.

The people on Epstein's client list will continue to have money and influence long after. Even if Trump had pressed forward, there’s a high chance powerful people would have retaliated against his family or his businesses. He is only gonna be "the most powerful person in the world" for less than 4 years. Once his term is over, it's over. Even being president is no protection. They have killled sitting presidents too. It's disappointing but not surprising; no politician is above the powers that be.

I agree it would have been the same even if the Democrats had won. There are significant interests and powers above the White House protecting this. If Trump hesitated last time with the JFK files, when anyone involved was likely elderly, he is, of course, going to hesitate with names so powerful and influential that they could literally shake the entire system.

It's not a list of nobodies, but legitimate figures who own pieces of the world and might even have more wealth than entire countries. This just goes to prove that corruption exists in all parties, and some people truly are above the law.
The difference is the Dems are the Establishment party, so them not wanting to investigate Epstein made sense. Trump ran on the Drain the Swamp platform, so to fail to deliver on the Epstein List on every level is a failure that doesn't just reflect on Trump, but all the middle manager underlings too i.e. MAGA leadership.
 
Economic, and then actual warfare upon China by the British was inevitable. The balance of trade for tea, silk, porcelain and IIRC certain dyes and pigments was damaging the British economy. Britain’s near-monopoly on the supply of tobacco and opium from India to China only slowed down the imbalance instead of reversing it.

And when that didn’t work, the British took the opportunity to invade during the middle of the Boxer Rebellion, and absolutely fucking face-raped the Chinese as a whole six ways from Friday. This included the sacking and/or destruction of the Chinese Empire’s most precious royal sites such as the Forbidden City and the Secret Garden. This is how China gave up Hong Kong for 99 years and entered their ‘century of humiliation’.

George MacDonald Fraser wrote a fictionalized but historically accurate account of all of this in ‘Flashman and the Dragon’, which is a superbly entertaining read.
Remember to not look up the Sassoon family
 
CTR being outed as a black israelite would possibly be the funniest thing to happen in a while.
That would be funny AF. Accusing me of being an absent father because I post while working from home shows the level of seethe. Apparently I need to log the hours I spend with my kid or else the Internet police will accuse me of being a bad father
 
See this shit? This is why many people here regard you as a JIDF/ACT.IL shill and a liar. Because you’re claiming Israel Dindu Nuffin again when we’re all five clicks away from IDF videos on YouTube that prove you wrong.

IDF isn’t ‘clearing’ shit. There is copious footage on YouTube of IDF members celebrating the punitive destruction of civilian homes using not only plastic explosives but also things like repurposed anti-tank mines- I suspect for ‘use it or we have to spend money disarming and disposing of it’ reasons.

They’re going into abandoned homes, breaking shit and looting, dancing around in the occupants’ women’s lingerie and underwear (must be a Jew thing) then wiring the homes and blowing them up. There was even a ‘gender reveal’ done by an IDF soldier by blowing up a Palestinian home.

Not to mention that they’re also now destroying homes in the West Bank, not that anyone from there has massacred 40 babies by decapitation or any of that shit as justification.

I get that you want to defend Israel and the IDF but holy shit dude, you need to take a step back before you post complete fiction. Dropping blatant lies and propaganda isn’t doing anything to win you and your people any friends.
My Brother in Christ, he never defended any of that. You are attacking a straw man. What he said is factually what is happening: the IDF goes into an area, blows the shit out of it, and fucks off, only for the cycle to repeat days or weeks later. In the post you quoted he never once ran cover for IDF committing atrocities or even mentioned specific actions, he was talking about the tactical and strategic decisions the IDF is making.

Calm down, seriously. Protesting human suffering and unnecessary harm is good, people should protest any war crimes or atrocities they see, regardless of those responsible, but it is also important to be precise when talking to people. Don't get so worked up over something someone didn't say. CTR is rather reasonable when talking about this stuff. In the Iran thread he and I disagreed on several points and still managed to keep it civil.
 
Why are you taking the common terminology used for areas that have been swept of terrorists
And there’s the pilpul game from you, yet again.

Driving civilians from their homes so those homes can be looted, then leveling them with explosives isn’t ’sweeping for terrorists’. And they’re not doing ‘capture, clear, withdraw, repeat’, they’re doing ‘force out civilians, loot, level and move on’. You don’t need to re-clear a building you’ve blasted into rubble.

And when you get called out you immediately fall back on “what I ACTUALLY meant was…” and jingle some fucking keys in my face like I’m a toddler, and not the former fucking soldier I am, who spent a big chunk of his training being taught what was and wasn’t permissible under a flag of war. Hint: destruction of civilian property as reprisal is a big fucking no, didn’t the IDF teach you that when YOU served?

You could just say “I can see why what I wrote gave that impression, sorry for not being clearer” but you have to claim it’s me that’s at fault. The issue here isn’t debating the wisdom of the IDF’s approach, it’s you blatantly fucking lying about what they are actually doing.

This is some useful advice from one former soldier to another: choose your words more carefully in the future if you don’t wish to draw heat, and learn to take it on the chin when you get it wrong.

Rant over, out.
 
I am angry, like everyone else, that they are covering up the names
Honestly I don't know a single Trump supporter that voted for him bc of the Epstein files. If he did put the names out then what? Nobody of note would go to jail over it. Its not going to deport illegals or cause gas and grocery prices to drop. Its a distraction and Trump was a retard for harping on it.
 
If he did put the names out then what? Nobody of note would go to jail over it.
This is the unfortunate truth nobody wants to mention. Even if the government gave away every document, every file pertaining to Epstein, who his clients were, etc. what would change? Would anyone get arrested? Maybe some low level pawns and fall guys, but the big fish would stay protected. Did anyone give a single fuck when all the shit Wikileaks revealed (i.e. spirit cooking, "pizza") came out? Maybe for a while, but it was buried like everything else. There is no legal or political solution to this problem. I'll just leave it at that and won't fedpost further.
 
You don’t need to re-clear a building you’ve blasted into rubble
Better tell that to the soldiers who just died in Beit Hanoun, they thought the same. You didn't read what I quoted or what Cardboard Box said.

This is the unfortunate truth nobody wants to mention. Even if the government gave away every document, every file pertaining to Epstein, who his clients were, etc. what would change? Would anyone get arrested? Maybe some low level pawns and fall guys, but the big fish would stay protected. Did anyone give a single fuck when all the shit Wikileaks revealed (i.e. spirit cooking, "pizza") came out? Maybe for a while, but it was buried like everything else. There is no legal or political solution to this problem. I'll just leave it at that and won't fedpost further.
I feel like people expected trump to just let everything be exposed and say go get them with no actual insight into the legal process
 
Honestly I don't know a single Trump supporter that voted for him bc of the Epstein files.
That’s because it wasn’t one of his policies in the election. He announced in January he’d release the files, IIRC. I suspect he didn’t have the full picture of what was in them when he made that announcement, and was then briefed, and had a genuine ‘oh shit’ moment.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The files (including but not limited to the client list) will never be released because their contents would threaten the stability of the US’ political and economic systems to a catastrophic degree. It was foolish to have made the promise and even more foolish to handle the fallout the way it has been.

Better tell that to the soldiers who just died in Beit Hanoun
So ‘sweeping’ and ‘clearing’ an area refers to ridding it of ‘terrorists’ (your words) until you need it to refer to IED’s instead to suit your purposes. Right.

Accusing me of being an absent father because I post while working from home
I think it’s pretty clear that you and I are never going to shake hands and share a beer, but I want you to know that I think attacks like that are very, very uncool.
 
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I think it’s pretty clear that you and I are never going to shake hands and share a beer, but I want you to know that I think attacks like that are very, very uncool.
It's this kind of faggotry that has sealed the doom of the White race. Here you have a pilpulling jew, a veritable genocidal maniac, and all you want to do is Kumbaya and break bread with him. Yes, you goy dog, time for another kicking!
 
It's this kind of faggotry that has sealed the doom of the White race. Here you have a pilpulling jew, a veritable genocidal maniac, and all you want to do is Kumbaya and break bread with him. Yes, you goy dog, time for another kicking!
It’s weak to attack someone by making unprovable claims about their private life. I prefer to discuss things are on the table in front of me. You know, like a man, not a petty high school girl.

If you think my opinion in this matter is what’s dooming the white race, I don’t know whether that’s strictly true. Pretty sure miscegenation, interracial murder and being dragged into pointless wars in the Middle East are far worse.
 
So ‘sweeping’ and ‘clearing’ an area refers to ridding it of ‘terrorists’ (your words) until you need it to refer to IED’s instead to suit your purposes. Right
It was an IED attack combined with an ambush by hidden Hamas in the area.

Being very clear with you and backing up what Cardboard Box said, I don't endorse what the IDF are doing with how they go about being unprofessional. When I make comments like that criticizing tactics, it doesn't mean that I approve of how they do things at a granular level. I meant to simply point out that their strategy is not good. I intended my comment to be a quick criticism and it spun out of control

I think it’s pretty clear that you and I are never going to shake hands and share a beer, but I want you to know that I think attacks like that are very, very uncool.
Meh don't discount the beer thing, I am pretty good at sitting down and hearing people out. Thanks for that
 
If you think my opinion in this matter is what’s dooming the white race, I don’t know whether that’s strictly true
No, I am talking about your pathologically White desire to embrace the enemy. It is the same old White magnanimity. "Oh boo hoo, it's not ok to say mean words against the member of the genocidal tribe of baby-dick suckers." Yeah all right. Let's get real here, pal: It's time to stop fucking around. You'll keep turning the other cheek until you've turned both of your ass cheeks out and a Yid is pulverizing your rectum very jewishly. OY VEY!
 
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