Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[marvlouslie]

I love how Worf, the big bad warrior, gets creeped out when what he thinks is the ships counsellor undoes his braid and starts to rub his shoulders. A good chuckle every time.

I dunno. I always figured that when Worf repaired the rupture, everything went back to the way it was BEFORE the rupture even occurred. I went and quoted the wrong segment, oh well. Point still stands though.

 

[Flexo]

I feel like they could have excused the poor choreography if they leaned more into parodying musicals like what Curtains did. Maybe have the aliens sing songs influenced by their own culture, not Klingons singing K-Pop.

I will never forgive them for denying us a klingon opera rendition.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I just finished watching Picard. I quite liked it, although his son is annoying. He's basically a Jack Quaid clone, right down to the same poor genetics that will make him age badly.

 

[Flexo]

You know that's how the crossover would go.

 

[ZMOT]

What if Vulcan music was soft and gentle to make it appeal to those with sensitive hearing?

before they became enlightened they probably would've listened to this, ancient 40k eldar style on full blast

EDIT: those comments

 

[William Murderface]

I just finished watching Picard. I quite liked it, although his son is annoying. He's basically a Jack Quaid clone, right down to the same poor genetics that will make him age badly.

The only scene in Picard that I truly liked was the scene where Q tells Picard he's dying alone and he doesn't want that for Picard and then Q actually dies but his last act is to send Picard and friends back to the future.

Q was always a treat because John De Lancie is just that good as Q.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

The only scene in Picard that I truly liked was the scene where Q tells Picard he's dying alone and he doesn't want that for Picard and then Q actually dies but his last act is to send Picard and friends back to the future.

Q was always a treat because John De Lancie is just that good as Q.

Too bad the constant fucking cuts ruin his delivery.

 

[Captain Syrup]

The only scene in Picard that I truly liked was the scene where Q tells Picard he's dying alone and he doesn't want that for Picard and then Q actually dies but his last act is to send Picard and friends back to the future.

Q dying was unexpected and fit with the groundwork laid in Voyager. But turning Picard into a synth undercuts any themes about aging or mortality the show pretended to care about. Data also dies, but comes back as a robot who’s still... old? So like Robin Williams in Bicentennial Man?

Say what you will about Generations, but at least it had the decency to leave Kirk dead, no convoluted resurrection via Borg nano-shit.

 

[Flexo]

Say what you will about Generations, but at least it had the decency to leave Kirk dead, no convoluted resurrection via Borg nano-shit.

Yeah. They saved that shit for the books!

 

[Captain Syrup]

Yeah. They saved that shit for the books!

He's got the little laser eye thing, but it’s a ring light for the Queen's OnlyFans

 

[JustSomeDong]

I wonder what would happen if I wrote an amateur screenplay/pitch and sent it to Paramount?

I'd like to introduce you to a greasy, gimp faced little fellow named Russel Greer...
Specifically, his quest to send his tard jingle love-ditties to female pop vocalists, both in an hilariously transparent attempt to break into "the biz," and facially (pun definitely intended) to woo those female pop vocalists with his studly whoremongering ways.

tldr You'll likely find your plans more successful if you don't emulate Russell Greer.

 

[botrix_fan]

You know that's how the crossover would go.

The death star looks like a toy compared with overpowered Trek megaweapons like the TOS planet killer or Kevin Uxbridge.

Say what you will about Generations, but at least it had the decency to leave Kirk dead, no convoluted resurrection via Borg nano-shit.

At least they also had the decency to recast Kirk for the 2009 reboot instead of pulling a Picard and making the Simpsons meme real

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I think Patrick Stewart was too old for Picard, personally. He is still a great actor and I don't think he's lost his shine, but I see an elderly man and not a spunky Starfleet officer. The show would have been better suited to showcase the politics of Star Trek rather than have so many action sequences, but I also read somewhere that Stewart asked for more action scenes so more power to him I suppose.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I think Patrick Stewart was too old for Picard, personally. He is still a great actor and I don't think he's lost his shine, but I see an elderly man and not a spunky Starfleet officer. The show would have been better suited to showcase the politics of Star Trek rather than have so many action sequences, but I also read somewhere that Stewart asked for more action scenes so more power to him I suppose.

And he was always terrible with action scenes going back to Dune. I don't like Picard because he gets into fights, I like him when he's negotiating deals and politely threatening people.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

And he was always terrible with action scenes going back to Dune. I don't like Picard because he gets into fights, I like him when he's negotiating deals and politely threatening people.

He is a very convincing diplomat. Avery Brooks was far more convincing as a soldier, but Brooks had more action roles in general. Brooks was great as Hawk.

 

[Brain Problems]

And he was always terrible with action scenes going back to Dune. I don't like Picard because he gets into fights, I like him when he's negotiating deals and politely threatening people.

The Ensigns of Command (episode with the Sheliak and colonists that won't leave) has some peak Picard diplomacy because not only does he out legalese the alien pedants, but has that fantastic scene near the end where he cuts them off and lets them stew while walking around on the bridge and inspecting the plaque. It's one of my favourite scenes in the entire series because he fuckin owns those pricks and it rules.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I also read somewhere that Stewart asked for more action scenes

He caught Main Character Syndrome and was agitating for more romance, action, and a greater focus on Picard from the middle of season 2 or possibly season 3. It's why they started having "picard goes it alone" episodes. The whole thing with Vaush, Inner Light, Chain of Command, and Picard doing that whole John McClane impression in Starship Mine. Stewart and his bloating ego is the reason Nemesis had that pointless beach buggy chase and the reason why Insurrection had such a retarded plot. Worked out ok for First Contact, because there was enough going on around him to make the action scenes not so out of place. The rest? Bleh. His fault. Arrogant sod. They should have picked Brian Blessed instead.

Or they could have had Blessed as a klingon. Now there's a missed opportunity...

It's one of my favourite scenes in the entire series because he fuckin owns those pricks and it rules.

That's where Picard makes sense as an older man. He's experienced, diplomatic, intelligent, and capable of countering brute force with wit and determination. He's not an action hero, but a man whose true strength is his compassion and intellect.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Q was always a treat because John De Lancie is just that good as Q.

Q is a treat in TNG because the writers were actual writers unlike the current year nepo-baby hacks and knew that overuse of the Q character would absolutely destroy him in the fans eyes. If I remember Brannon had a rule that Q could have have 2 episodes per season or something...much to De Lancie's chagrin as a working actor no doubt.

Q is at his best when he pop's into a episode, does whatever shenanigans he wants (because he's Q) then vanishes leaving everyone just as confused as when started. Q don't need no big cliff hangers, or galaxy shattering events to make his appearances impactfull...though they don't hurt. All Good Things is a perfect Q episode if a little bit sentimental for my tastes but you know being the penultimate episode I will cut them some slack. (OK, a lot of slack AGT is awesome, top 5 easy

Doesn't hurt that De Lancie can hold his own against Stewart, which is no easy task. Plus De Lancie obviously loves the character and gets much joy out of playing Q which of course leaks into his performance making Q that much more fun to watch romping across the tv screen.

 

[Flexo]

The Ensigns of Command (episode with the Sheliak and colonists that won't leave) has some peak Picard diplomacy because not only does he out legalese the alien pedants, but has that fantastic scene near the end where he cuts them off and lets them stew while walking around on the bridge and inspecting the plaque. It's one of my favourite scenes in the entire series because he fuckin owns those pricks and it rules.

Which is funny because in production order it's like... the first episode of S3.

Think about that a moment. The crew of TNG, after making Shades of Grey, went and made Ensigns of Command.

Talk about learning from your mistakes!

He caught Main Character Syndrome and was agitating for more romance, action, and a greater focus on Picard from the middle of season 2 or possibly season 3. It's why they started having "picard goes it alone" episodes. The whole thing with Vaush, Inner Light, Chain of Command, and Picard doing that whole John McClane impression in Starship Mine. Stewart and his bloating ego is the reason Nemesis had that pointless beach buggy chase and the reason why Insurrection had such a retarded plot. Worked out ok for First Contact, because there was enough going on around him to make the action scenes not so out of place. The rest? Bleh. His fault. Arrogant sod. They should have picked Brian Blessed instead.

More like S3. BOBW is when Picard got assimilated and there was a real question on whether Stewart was going to return to the show after the hiatus or not.

I think part of his conditions for returning was more focus and action with his character. I'd have to check some of my books though.

Q is a treat in TNG because the writers were actual writers unlike the current year nepo-baby hacks and knew that overuse of the Q character would absolutely destroy him in the fans eyes. If I remember Brannon had a rule that Q could have have 2 episodes per season or something...much to De Lancie's chagrin as a working actor no doubt.

Q is at his best when he pop's into a episode, does whatever shenanigans he wants (because he's Q) then vanishes leaving everyone just as confused as when started. Q don't need no big cliff hangers, or galaxy shattering events to make his appearances impactfull...though they don't hurt. All Good Things is a perfect Q episode if a little bit sentimental for my tastes but you know being the penultimate episode I will cut them some slack. (OK, a lot of slack AGT is awesome, top 5 easy

Doesn't hurt that De Lancie can hold his own against Stewart, which is no easy task. Plus De Lancie obviously loves the character and gets much joy out of playing Q which of course leaks into his performance making Q that much more fun to watch romping across the tv screen.

In Q Who there's a moment in the conference room where Riker chews Q out over the lost crewmembers.

Story goes that in the original script, Q had an over-the-top reaction with something like "Shut up! Or be destroyed!" It was John and the director that insisted Q just remained chilled out in the chair and replies, "oh please."

It absolutely proves your point because John was right. Q being dismissive is way more chilling and indicative of his power than throwing a cartman level "respect mah authoritah!"

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

It absolutely proves your point because John was right. Q being dismissive is way more chilling and indicative of his power than throwing a cartman level "respect mah authoritah!"

Yah Q is absolutely terrifying as a villain. Far far more then the Borg or any other race.

We are all nothing but toys to him, a temporary amusement for him to pass the time. He could cause you to die in agonizing pain or he could grant your every desire all depending on his whims. He's unknowable and unpredictable and his morality is as alien as he is. The Q are to be fear as no other.

And there is nothing you can do about it, he's beyond powerful, beyond morality and beyond our understanding...well at least until Voyager when they completely fucked over the Q and brought them down because not even the mighty Q Continuum can best Janeway.

Really I absolutely despise what the Voyager writers did to Q. Yes I know the ratings were tanking and they were desperate to get more viewers but damn son you went and castrated the prime villain of the Star Trek universe in less then 3 episodes.

Somethings are just unforgivable.