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Poppy confirms that he is being sued for defamation. lol suit arc incoming.
Poppy Diabolique / Jessica Routhier / Joshua Routhier / Bryce Routhier / Zena & Poppy: Wholesome Degenerates - Middle aged crazy tranny, his polycule of enablers and his BPD filled breakups. Abusive Parent. Fakes having multiple personalities. Serial Sex Pest. Grooms minors and SA victims with furry porn. Fired from their job for being terminally online
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Also, Poppy claims he filed a police report in Noeh's state using Noeh's legal name. He has threatened Noeh with making it public in the past, but has never followed through.
The NoehFlake Saga
In August/September, Poppy started dating a trans woman Hayleigh Fletcher aka @NoehFlake (Noeh or NF) aka The Moth. Noeh is also a MTF, plural and autistic. She quickly became Poppy's favorite person (FP), a term that is apparently used in BPD, meaning that this person is who gets all the attention, good or bad, from a BPD person. The relationship was extremely one-sided, with Poppy constantly posting about his love for Noeh on twitter despite barely knowing her. Noeh identifies as asexual, and told Poppy when they first started dating, despite Poppy saying otherwise. Also at this time, Saige was posting extremely disturbing and suicidal twitter posts, which Poppy ignored.
Noeh was also in a polyamourous relationship. She had at least two partners at the time she was dating Poppy. Poppy was extremely jealous of this, and at one point, sent an unhinged letter as one of his alters to one of the partners demanding that they block all four of Poppy's twitter accounts because Poppy might commit suicide otherwise. (A) Poppy forced Noeh to break up with her partner because of this, which Noeh said she did. Later on, Noeh quote tweeted the (ex)girlfriend, and when Poppy saw it, he went ballistic.
At some point, Poppy rented a hotel room to spend Christmas with Noeh (Zena also tagged along). On December 21, 2023, right before the hotel rendezvous, Noeh broke up with him as a result of Poppy's jealousy around Noeh's partners.
Given that they were supposed to leave to see him the next day, Poppy and Zena guilted Noeh into giving Poppy another chance and not breaking up with him. After a lot of arguing, Noeh relented and Poppy and Zena drove 500 miles to upstate New York to the hotel.
What happened next depends on who you ask. What is definitely known is that Noeh and Poppy had some sort of sexual encounter (Zena was in the same room and apparently was sleeping during all of this, or was in the bathroom, lol). Poppy has listed explicit details of what happened, all of which are gross, but he is a very unreliable narrator. Afterward, Noeh left and broke up with Poppy for good, blocking him on Twitter.
It was later leaked on Twitter what happened following the breakup. The leaked messages are below but in summary:
Noeh did not call out Poppy on twitter or reveal any information about the breakup, although Poppy decided to have a months long (and going ) meltdown across social media.
Oh and for clarification, it wasn’t a UTI. He got bacterial vaginosis. Do better y’all.
After the initial disappointment, Poppy went through a few phases. First he tried convincing herself of being better off without her in her life, and how it was really NF's loss that she got dumped. Then, after talking with a friend that totally exists, Poppy believes he was sexually assaulted, but would get mad if people said he was crying rape. Of course, Poppy now has a pinned post tagging NF saying that he was raped by NF, which links to a document written by a self-admitted pedophile Annie Gallagher (A)
How and why this person became involved is unknown. They are banned from Twitter and Bluesky due to being a pedo. They claimed they were tricked by a minor into abusing them, and that they were also tricked into being a pedophile (A). They also complain about children “weaponizing their age” to cause harm.
Poppy's reasoning behind the rape allegation has gone through multiple evolutions. The current understanding is that because Noeh just wasn’t that into him during sex, that Poppy was essentially raped by deception. Poppy’s argument is that he would not have had consented to having sex if he knew Noeh wasn’t as enthusiastic about it as he was.
He has also said that because of his BPD and pluralism, he is mentally ill and unable to consent, for which he was promptly mocked.
He started flooding all of his twitter accounts with accusations of rape, telling everybody and anybody that his ex was a rapist. He also has said that while it technically wasn’t rape, the feelings he experienced were tantamount to rape, so his ex is 100% a rapist. He demanded all of his true followers repost the below image:
He also got in leagues with a grifter named Liana Kerzner. Liana is one of the few actual women involved in all of this. You may have heard of her before; she became (in)famous during GamerGate for a rift she had with Anita Sarkeesian. (A). According to @PastaPimp969 , she may be deserving of her own thread given some of her histrionics. Liana has a past in which she used kickstarter money for a failed tv show to fund lawsuits filed against her (A), and she also nearly drove another trans woman to suicide because of her harassment (A).
Liana is not a therapist (she literally hosts a podcast called “It’s Not Therapy” and the main tagline is “I’m Not a Therapist) but because she has a large following and is validating Poppy's delusions (a), she is being held as a source of authority for Poppy’s mental health and statements. According to Poppy, Liana interviewed him and Zena about his “rape” for a podcast segment (A).
The defamation has gone on since the December breakup and has gone on almost daily since. To give you an example of how batshit insane it all is, here is an archive of just ONE afternoon of tweets harassing his ex and detractors.
Noeh was also in a polyamourous relationship. She had at least two partners at the time she was dating Poppy. Poppy was extremely jealous of this, and at one point, sent an unhinged letter as one of his alters to one of the partners demanding that they block all four of Poppy's twitter accounts because Poppy might commit suicide otherwise. (A) Poppy forced Noeh to break up with her partner because of this, which Noeh said she did. Later on, Noeh quote tweeted the (ex)girlfriend, and when Poppy saw it, he went ballistic.
At some point, Poppy rented a hotel room to spend Christmas with Noeh (Zena also tagged along). On December 21, 2023, right before the hotel rendezvous, Noeh broke up with him as a result of Poppy's jealousy around Noeh's partners.
Given that they were supposed to leave to see him the next day, Poppy and Zena guilted Noeh into giving Poppy another chance and not breaking up with him. After a lot of arguing, Noeh relented and Poppy and Zena drove 500 miles to upstate New York to the hotel.
What happened next depends on who you ask. What is definitely known is that Noeh and Poppy had some sort of sexual encounter (Zena was in the same room and apparently was sleeping during all of this, or was in the bathroom, lol). Poppy has listed explicit details of what happened, all of which are gross, but he is a very unreliable narrator. Afterward, Noeh left and broke up with Poppy for good, blocking him on Twitter.
It was later leaked on Twitter what happened following the breakup. The leaked messages are below but in summary:
- Poppy blames Noeh for ruining his Christmas, says he’s never loved anyone as much as he’s loved Noeh despite knowing him for 4 months, and that he has to fix things NOW.
- Poppy, a 42 year old, was apparently on his hands and knees in the hotel room begging Noeh, a person he had just met in person and known online for four months, to stay and not leave.
- Noeh acknowledges she could’ve done things better and apologizes for the way things turned out, but Poppy’s abusive behavior turned her off. She also says both of them were to blame for the relationship going south but Poppy refuses to take any responsibility for his role while Noeh does.
- Poppy roleplays as his 12 year old headmate to try to further guilt Noeh into staying.
Oh and for clarification, it wasn’t a UTI. He got bacterial vaginosis. Do better y’all.
After the initial disappointment, Poppy went through a few phases. First he tried convincing herself of being better off without her in her life, and how it was really NF's loss that she got dumped. Then, after talking with a friend that totally exists, Poppy believes he was sexually assaulted, but would get mad if people said he was crying rape. Of course, Poppy now has a pinned post tagging NF saying that he was raped by NF, which links to a document written by a self-admitted pedophile Annie Gallagher (A)
How and why this person became involved is unknown. They are banned from Twitter and Bluesky due to being a pedo. They claimed they were tricked by a minor into abusing them, and that they were also tricked into being a pedophile (A). They also complain about children “weaponizing their age” to cause harm.
Poppy's reasoning behind the rape allegation has gone through multiple evolutions. The current understanding is that because Noeh just wasn’t that into him during sex, that Poppy was essentially raped by deception. Poppy’s argument is that he would not have had consented to having sex if he knew Noeh wasn’t as enthusiastic about it as he was.
He has also said that because of his BPD and pluralism, he is mentally ill and unable to consent, for which he was promptly mocked.
He started flooding all of his twitter accounts with accusations of rape, telling everybody and anybody that his ex was a rapist. He also has said that while it technically wasn’t rape, the feelings he experienced were tantamount to rape, so his ex is 100% a rapist. He demanded all of his true followers repost the below image:
He also got in leagues with a grifter named Liana Kerzner. Liana is one of the few actual women involved in all of this. You may have heard of her before; she became (in)famous during GamerGate for a rift she had with Anita Sarkeesian. (A). According to @PastaPimp969 , she may be deserving of her own thread given some of her histrionics. Liana has a past in which she used kickstarter money for a failed tv show to fund lawsuits filed against her (A), and she also nearly drove another trans woman to suicide because of her harassment (A).
Liana is not a therapist (she literally hosts a podcast called “It’s Not Therapy” and the main tagline is “I’m Not a Therapist) but because she has a large following and is validating Poppy's delusions (a), she is being held as a source of authority for Poppy’s mental health and statements. According to Poppy, Liana interviewed him and Zena about his “rape” for a podcast segment (A).
The defamation has gone on since the December breakup and has gone on almost daily since. To give you an example of how batshit insane it all is, here is an archive of just ONE afternoon of tweets harassing his ex and detractors.
Also, Poppy claims he filed a police report in Noeh's state using Noeh's legal name. He has threatened Noeh with making it public in the past, but has never followed through.
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I bet alllll that lawsuit money is gonna go to art commissions
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Yeah it’s pretty crass to beg for money after showing off your $1000’s you’ve spent on furry porn but that’s Poppy!!
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Admittedly I only consume this side of the internet via lolcow posts but I have never seen anybody else self-identify as an "art commissioner" as though that gives them some sort of clout in the art community. Bro you're a customer.
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Can you even resell furry porn? Like, is that just a depreciated value that's worthless? Or can some losses be recovered by selling some of it? I don't know how the furry porn industry works admittedly. I know he WOULDN'T sell it, but is it even physically possible?
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it’s literally pixels lol. Sometimes people sell their characters for money but poppy would never do that as these are literally her alternate personalities
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Any commisioned Furry Porn would look like a Jackson Pollack painting under Black Light. The only people collecting used Furry Porn are CSI Investigators.
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Ostensibly you could call it being a "patron" (as in "patron of the arts") but generally that takes a much larger investment than just paying for a couple pieces of commissioned art from a few artists. Michelangelo had patrons. This perv is just a gooner with a wallet.
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Notice how Poppy specifically says "by a person I accused of SA". Every other time it was brought up Poppy would definitively say he was SAed. He has to be careful with his words now since he's being sued for this particular thing.
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Don’t worry we’ve archived every time he’s said it. So have the docs. Hell I’ll throw in a freebie right here
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Patch constantly trying to take the high ground not realizing she's making herself look worse every time is incredible.
And now chooses to ignore the problem altogether and pretend she was always right.
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I think these new developments warrant reflection in a new inner Poppy sanctum. I don't want to be blasted out of the stratosphere by Null, so please react if you want to be added.
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I get a nice pang of nostalgia every time I'm reminded there are still people pushing the headmates arc in Current Year. Tumblr's spirit lives on.
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AnnieOgre claims another “victim” of Milena’s came forward. I’m sure this was totally 100% real and not Annie talking to himself.
SC: Howdy Annie, I’m [Name Redacted]. I just read your piece on Milena and I hate to say it but everything you’ve laid out here tracks for me.
I used to be friends with her from 2015-2019 or so, when she suddenly decided that my partner was abusive and a serial rapist (both quite untrue) and went on a public crusade after my partner lightly chastised her for some dumb thing she said.
It burned a lot of our friendships at the time when people were forced to pick sides against allegations like that.
She then tried to separate me from my partner by claiming that she was a much more supportive person and that I would find real happiness and peace only if I left.
I can’t corroborate the claims made by SB in your article, I wasn’t around at that time and I never heard about those incidents during the time Milena was my friend. But I can tell you that this isn’t the first time she has been on the warpath.
I’m sorry you, and everyone else in this saga, were in the blast radius this time. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Me: Hi, this is Annie from Guardian Acorn. I just got your message about Milena, and was wondering if you or your Partner wanted to share anything, as I may decide to update the article with this additional information. A friend of mine also says they are working on a video about Milena, and I could get you in contact with her, though that one may be a while.
SC: Howdy Annie.
My partner definitely won’t want to share anything herself- our experiences with Milena were incredibly traumatic and I don’t wanna bring up those ghosts for her again.
I’m not sure what I could contribute to an article or video, but I’m happy to chat about what happened if there’s information I can provide.
I’m sorry to say that nothing I know is earth-shattering, just confirmation that what you’ve seen is… a pattern for her, it seems. Mostly I wanted to reach out to provide some solidarity as someone who’s had to put up with this intensely radioactive person. My heart goes out to all of you folks, I wouldn’t wish this sort of treatment on anyone.
Me: I fully understand your partner’s hesitancy, Milena is terrifying. [Text Redacted]. Would keeping your identity anonymous like I did with SB help? I’m not talking about writing another article btw, but rather editing it into the existing Milena article with your name censored. Even if there’s nothing earth shattering, having more people corroborate the story helps lend credibility to it.
SC: I would definitely prefer to be anonymous, yeah, for whatever you might want to quote.
Would you prefer email, call, or chat?
Me: Probably via chat if that works for you, do you have Discord?
SC: Yeah, I’m [Username Redacted] on there.
The rest of this convo took place via Discord
SC: Howdy
Me: Hi there.
SC: You caught me just as I was settling in for my evening reading, nice timing.
Me: So uhhh, I’m so sorry you had to deal with Milena. God I feel bad for your partner, especially given that I’ve also experienced false accusations myself.
SC: Appreciate it. It was a fucking nightmare, I’m glad she’s moved on but uh. Wish there weren’t more people in the warpath.
I just. Every time I’m reminded of this shit I just marvel at how petty she is. I get being hurt by something said in anger, but like. Detonating everything and forcing a wedge between people to isolate them is so fucked. I’m sorry you’re in that blast radius. I don’t really have a horse in any of that race but boy howdy do I feel bad for y’all.
Me: To be fair, I put myself in it. She actually tried to buy my support to get me to turn on Poppy, I didn’t have it.
SC: I hate how in-character that is.
Me: Also, have you read the other articles I wrote about the situation? it’s genuinely insane.
SC: Yeah, I perused your blog, and I’ve actually been checking on Milena for a while.I read Great Value Sephiroth (which can I just say is a fucking incredible title) when it came out. I occasionally poke my head in to see what new fuckery has happened whenever I’m reminded that she exists. Like a sitcom only even more dramatic.
Me: Sadly, Night Wyld, who wrote it, went over to the dark side. Milena went to the extent of grooming and gaslighting him into being the exact opposite of everything he ever was, including detransitioning. I lost one of my closest friends because of Milena.
SC: Wait WHAT
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I saw that he dropped off but I didn’t catch the detransition part.
Me: Oh yeah, NW is now a baedelist detransitioner, and even went to the extent of pedojacketing me to defend Milena. The thing to keep in mind is, he’s an actual cult survivor, and Milena knew she could use this to her advantage.
SC: I am so happy that I have no idea what bædelist is and I’m not sure I want to know.
Me: What makes this whole situation so insane isn’t just Milena, it’s how she managed to tap into the worst qualities of so many people and make them lose their shit.
SC: That is… a very succinct way of describing how she works
Me: Extremist group of trans women that hate trans men, and basically view trans women as superior beings.
SC: God I love just vomiting hate on others who are going through their own shit
Have they considered, uh, that maybe making a monolith out of a group of people and invalidating their lived experience and identities is JUST REPEATING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE
Like uwu I’m sorry that society fucking hates us but how does hating people WHO ARE YOUR NATURAL ALLIES help with that?
At least you’ve granted me the knowledge that my brain worms aren’t as bad as that. I’ll remember that for therapy later.
This confirms my theory that Milena has been doing this shit for decades. Moreover, this also confirms that her smear campaigns are sexually motivated, and done with the intent to seduce individuals who are already in committed relations, as the same attitude can be shown towards Zena AND with SB’s ex boyfriend. Despite the lack of direct sexual assault present, Milena is still engaging in sexually predatory behavior if what SC says is true.
Lastly, I suspect that this is not the last time that one of Milena’s victims will come forward. I will continue to update this piece as frequently as new information becomes available.
ETA: Nightwyld / Dusknoir wrote a very well written and informative article about why Poppy & Zena’s foundation is a cult.
ETA2: Drinking water, eating healthy and cutting back on CBD gummies would not give you chronic migraines. Also, if the migraines are really this bad roll Zena’s fat ass to a doctor.
SC: Howdy Annie, I’m [Name Redacted]. I just read your piece on Milena and I hate to say it but everything you’ve laid out here tracks for me.
I used to be friends with her from 2015-2019 or so, when she suddenly decided that my partner was abusive and a serial rapist (both quite untrue) and went on a public crusade after my partner lightly chastised her for some dumb thing she said.
It burned a lot of our friendships at the time when people were forced to pick sides against allegations like that.
She then tried to separate me from my partner by claiming that she was a much more supportive person and that I would find real happiness and peace only if I left.
I can’t corroborate the claims made by SB in your article, I wasn’t around at that time and I never heard about those incidents during the time Milena was my friend. But I can tell you that this isn’t the first time she has been on the warpath.
I’m sorry you, and everyone else in this saga, were in the blast radius this time. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Me: Hi, this is Annie from Guardian Acorn. I just got your message about Milena, and was wondering if you or your Partner wanted to share anything, as I may decide to update the article with this additional information. A friend of mine also says they are working on a video about Milena, and I could get you in contact with her, though that one may be a while.
SC: Howdy Annie.
My partner definitely won’t want to share anything herself- our experiences with Milena were incredibly traumatic and I don’t wanna bring up those ghosts for her again.
I’m not sure what I could contribute to an article or video, but I’m happy to chat about what happened if there’s information I can provide.
I’m sorry to say that nothing I know is earth-shattering, just confirmation that what you’ve seen is… a pattern for her, it seems. Mostly I wanted to reach out to provide some solidarity as someone who’s had to put up with this intensely radioactive person. My heart goes out to all of you folks, I wouldn’t wish this sort of treatment on anyone.
Me: I fully understand your partner’s hesitancy, Milena is terrifying. [Text Redacted]. Would keeping your identity anonymous like I did with SB help? I’m not talking about writing another article btw, but rather editing it into the existing Milena article with your name censored. Even if there’s nothing earth shattering, having more people corroborate the story helps lend credibility to it.
SC: I would definitely prefer to be anonymous, yeah, for whatever you might want to quote.
Would you prefer email, call, or chat?
Me: Probably via chat if that works for you, do you have Discord?
SC: Yeah, I’m [Username Redacted] on there.
The rest of this convo took place via Discord
SC: Howdy
Me: Hi there.
SC: You caught me just as I was settling in for my evening reading, nice timing.
Me: So uhhh, I’m so sorry you had to deal with Milena. God I feel bad for your partner, especially given that I’ve also experienced false accusations myself.
SC: Appreciate it. It was a fucking nightmare, I’m glad she’s moved on but uh. Wish there weren’t more people in the warpath.
I just. Every time I’m reminded of this shit I just marvel at how petty she is. I get being hurt by something said in anger, but like. Detonating everything and forcing a wedge between people to isolate them is so fucked. I’m sorry you’re in that blast radius. I don’t really have a horse in any of that race but boy howdy do I feel bad for y’all.
Me: To be fair, I put myself in it. She actually tried to buy my support to get me to turn on Poppy, I didn’t have it.
SC: I hate how in-character that is.
Me: Also, have you read the other articles I wrote about the situation? it’s genuinely insane.
SC: Yeah, I perused your blog, and I’ve actually been checking on Milena for a while.I read Great Value Sephiroth (which can I just say is a fucking incredible title) when it came out. I occasionally poke my head in to see what new fuckery has happened whenever I’m reminded that she exists. Like a sitcom only even more dramatic.
Me: Sadly, Night Wyld, who wrote it, went over to the dark side. Milena went to the extent of grooming and gaslighting him into being the exact opposite of everything he ever was, including detransitioning. I lost one of my closest friends because of Milena.
SC: Wait WHAT
Bruhmoment.png
I saw that he dropped off but I didn’t catch the detransition part.
Me: Oh yeah, NW is now a baedelist detransitioner, and even went to the extent of pedojacketing me to defend Milena. The thing to keep in mind is, he’s an actual cult survivor, and Milena knew she could use this to her advantage.
SC: I am so happy that I have no idea what bædelist is and I’m not sure I want to know.
Me: What makes this whole situation so insane isn’t just Milena, it’s how she managed to tap into the worst qualities of so many people and make them lose their shit.
SC: That is… a very succinct way of describing how she works
Me: Extremist group of trans women that hate trans men, and basically view trans women as superior beings.
SC: God I love just vomiting hate on others who are going through their own shit
Have they considered, uh, that maybe making a monolith out of a group of people and invalidating their lived experience and identities is JUST REPEATING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE
Like uwu I’m sorry that society fucking hates us but how does hating people WHO ARE YOUR NATURAL ALLIES help with that?
At least you’ve granted me the knowledge that my brain worms aren’t as bad as that. I’ll remember that for therapy later.
This confirms my theory that Milena has been doing this shit for decades. Moreover, this also confirms that her smear campaigns are sexually motivated, and done with the intent to seduce individuals who are already in committed relations, as the same attitude can be shown towards Zena AND with SB’s ex boyfriend. Despite the lack of direct sexual assault present, Milena is still engaging in sexually predatory behavior if what SC says is true.
Lastly, I suspect that this is not the last time that one of Milena’s victims will come forward. I will continue to update this piece as frequently as new information becomes available.
ETA: Nightwyld / Dusknoir wrote a very well written and informative article about why Poppy & Zena’s foundation is a cult.
ETA2: Drinking water, eating healthy and cutting back on CBD gummies would not give you chronic migraines. Also, if the migraines are really this bad roll Zena’s fat ass to a doctor.
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New Milena doc on the horizon, Malcom's considering fundraising to cover the lolsuit live, a NightWyld interview, and new screenshots.
We are so back
The only thing that could make this better is if Poppy starts streaming again.
We are so back
The only thing that could make this better is if Poppy starts streaming again.
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And to think I didn’t think we’d make it to 200 pages. We are so back kids.
ETA: I finished listening to the interview with Malcolm. First off, fuck Poppy, Zena, Annie and Willy.
Secondly, I’m glad Nightwyld got help. They sound very happy now. They admitted they were Poppy’s “sewer diver” going through this thread. If you’re still reading this I hope you know that most of us realized you really were mentally ill and being used by Poppy. Glad that you’re out of that nightmare.
ETA2: it’s pronounced car - Ellen, monarch
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ETA: I finished listening to the interview with Malcolm. First off, fuck Poppy, Zena, Annie and Willy.
Secondly, I’m glad Nightwyld got help. They sound very happy now. They admitted they were Poppy’s “sewer diver” going through this thread. If you’re still reading this I hope you know that most of us realized you really were mentally ill and being used by Poppy. Glad that you’re out of that nightmare.
ETA2: it’s pronounced car - Ellen, monarch
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