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Out of all the people, it had to be Lindsey.

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Trump can't just throw the neo cons off a bridge. No man rules alone, and if he goes to war with them he loses a key faction in his coalition. Lindsey Graham is a major figure in the Senate Republican caucus and its highly unlikely he's going to be voted out of office. There is no benefit to antagonizing him, and many benefits to supporting his position.

These sorts of maximalist ideological purity spirals are what prevents getting shit done. No man, not even a king, rules alone. Kings who forget that universal truth don't stay kings for long.
 
Trump can't just throw the neo cons off a bridge. No man rules alone, and if he goes to war with them he loses a key faction in his coalition. Lindsey Graham is a major figure in the Senate Republican caucus and its highly unlikely he's going to be voted out of office. There is no benefit to antagonizing him, and many benefits to supporting his position.

These sorts of maximalist ideological purity spirals are what prevents getting shit done. No man, not even a king, rules alone. Kings who forget that universal truth don't stay kings for long.
TOTAL NEOCON DEATH
Edit: we got the turtle out now the ladybug needs to go
 
These sorts of maximalist ideological purity spirals are what prevents getting shit done.
While I am compelled to snark about your defending a fellow Jewkraine loving Warhawk, you are not wrong that with such a slim majority it would be detrimental to start trying to shuck him out when he has a broad base of support.
 
Ive said it before and ill say it again, if you were hosting a civ game and you premade the map to have a spawn point like the US everyone and I mean FUCKING EVERYONE would call you a dumb preset faggot trying to manufacture wins (this is slightly more of a reflection of how toxic the civ 5 and 6 multiplayer community is)
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Like all super cool people Ive spent lots of time studying US topigraphical maps in my free time of my own volition trying to think up "devils advocate" concepts of how you could even conceptually invade the united states and the MOST generous concept of that being successful I have been able to formulate requires continental shift, its just not in the cards. You see how fucked the whole west coast is? You have 5 inches to land on and 10 gorillion miles of stupid high mountains just to get to the flat grounds where things get REAL fun. lets say by a host of miracles you make it through Americas flat-lands you hit the Appalachians and you get the final boss of Americans, the people and energy you will encounter if you raise its berserker blood by invading is beyond parody.

Also just for fun we have a cool 1/5th of the planets fresh water in a connected ecosystem
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Trump can't just throw the neo cons off a bridge. No man rules alone, and if he goes to war with them he loses a key faction in his coalition. Lindsey Graham is a major figure in the Senate Republican caucus and its highly unlikely he's going to be voted out of office. There is no benefit to antagonizing him, and many benefits to supporting his position.

These sorts of maximalist ideological purity spirals are what prevents getting shit done. No man, not even a king, rules alone. Kings who forget that universal truth don't stay kings for long.
But here's the problem. The majority of the wealth of this country are held by people who love people neoconservatives.

They're the ones that all those think tanks and how that small faced big forehead, idiot, charlie kirk has some power.

Trump, if he was smart, should, have handled this back in his 1st run now it's too late. The neoconservatives have won again because they have the tools, the talent, and the one thing that most people seem to forget, but is a key virtue in politics.
Patience
 
I've been seeing numerous people on my personal social media talking about how great LA traffic has become, it makes me wonder if focusing so much on leftist cities might have the unintended consequence of improving the economy and general mood and lifestyles of them that it fucks over the GOP in the long run.

Gavin Newsom being able to hype up how amazing California is doing while hiding the fact that its because trump took a shitload of illegals out of his state.

One of my friends white kids just got their job and it was at a fast food place right by their house in LA, like its the fucking 90s. You really think that kid will ever get redpilled about minorities when the handful he sees will be the legal ones just like GenXers experienced?

edit:This might sound ridiculous but if you remember the 2000s you had books like freakonomics or other edutainment basically explain away a lot of the major victories the conservatives gave us because of the 90s crime bills and tough on crime policies.

like every person online back then would mock the old people for being scared to visit brooklyn or other major cities, they didn't experience the dark days so they just assumed a high trust society was the norm. Its why it was so easy for them to start up those anti-police movements in the 2010s, it was a whole operation by the left to get rid of Stop-and-frisk despite it being a huge reason NYC was able to clean up so quickly.
TLDR we need children shot down in drivebys and women raped at knife point to preserve power
 
And if they do deify him, who fucking cares is my point. The more of them there are, the better the chances the Dems will lose ground in upcoming elections.
You don’t see the potential harm in a bunch of uncritical voters being blindly loyal to a demagogue?

Okay, that will surely never backfire. 👍
 
You don’t see the potential harm in a bunch of uncritical voters being blindly loyal to a demagogue?
(a) I don't think Trump is a demagogue and (b) Get real, please, it's not like Trump is the only example of this in recent history (FDR, JFK, Reagan, Obama). You need true believers to win elections, simple as.
 
(a) I don't think Trump is a demagogue and (b) Get real, please, it's not like Trump is the only example of this in recent history (FDR, JFK, Reagan, Obama). You need true believers to win elections, simple as.
Half those presidents are the reason we are in the shitty situation we are in now and not great examples of what ‘true believers’ can do when they back a shit horse which they absolutely can once Trump is gone. But I guess no one wants to hear that just that ‘America is back’ and will never have problems ever again, lol
 
Half those presidents are the reason we are in the shitty situation we are in now and not great examples of what ‘true believers’ can do when they back a shit horse which they absolutely can once Trump is gone. But I guess no one wants to hear that just that ‘America is back’ and will never have problems ever again, lol
I'd be willing to bet every leader of any kind of political organization of any significant size since the dawn of history has had his true believers. No matter how shit they were or are, there's always going to be a subset of people who thinks the sun shines out their asses. Even Joe Biden - arguably among the worst presidents in the last century - had, and still has, true believers. They're not going away, and when they're on your side stirring up shit with them is counterproductive. So why do it?

p.s. "A bunch of non-critical voters" describes way more than 50% of the electorate. I don't like it any more than you do, but you have to play the hand you're dealt.
 
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I'd be willing to bet every leader of any kind of political organization of any significant size since the dawn of history has had his true believers. No matter how shit they were or are, there's always going to be a subset of people who thinks the sun shines out their asses. Even Joe Biden - arguably among the worst presidents in the last century - had, and still has, true believers. They're not going away, and when they're on your side stirring up shit with them is counterproductive. So why do it?
Because I as an individual am free to shitpost and mock NPCs whether they be ‘the right kind’ or not. Also the only way things change is by identifying people acting retarded and bullying them to stop being retarded. I certainly don’t want to stay in this current situation of praying the ignorant masses back the right causes because that will eventually go bad and disastrously so. Do you think society is headed the right direction to not shoot itself in the foot when the next Obama comes along?
 
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