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Should be a wild four years.

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Fake news.

The Russian parliament has dismissed this as a “some kind of fantasy”.

Besides, why import jeets, when you can just rent Norks who won’t grope your women, won’t stay and will actually work hard?
Posting AFpost here should be a thread timeout. It's a groyper-run account that constantly posts false ragebait shit.
 
Trump can't just throw the neo cons off a bridge. No man rules alone, and if he goes to war with them he loses a key faction in his coalition. Lindsey Graham is a major figure in the Senate Republican caucus and its highly unlikely he's going to be voted out of office. There is no benefit to antagonizing him, and many benefits to supporting his position.

These sorts of maximalist ideological purity spirals are what prevents getting shit done. No man, not even a king, rules alone. Kings who forget that universal truth don't stay kings for long.
He’s also not the worst neocon, macain was worse, at least gram compromises with his populist counterparts and sometimes alines with the general public, he may be a lispy queer but there are worse neocons or do nothing faggots in Congress that trump could have backed.
 
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I'm reminded of something the late, great @Gehenna said, and while I'm paraphrasing, it bears repeating:

The main reason they're not going to release that shit - aside from the fact that any actual evidence was torched ages ago - is not that he was tied to the state department or that he had multiple ties to foreign governments and at least two foreign intel agencies. It's that he was a hob-knobber with the rich and powerful and that the child-fucking was only a single thing going on there. There is blackmail material in those files that would go very far in forcing compliance from a shockingly large pool of clientele - a prize far too valuable for anyone to ignore.

it's also it's assuming the kompromat is as juicy and as nasty as the people who dangled it over our heads claimed it to be, something that you kind of have to be gullible to fall for these days. the general public has been totally on-board this epstein conspiracy for the last six years and while i'm not particularly trying to question whether these things actually do happen, they most assuredly do not happen in the way that normies picked it up and ran with. It's essentially just the pizzagate/adrenochrome conspiracy stuff taken to the most ridiculous extreme and the media is totally on board with all of it as long as you say "epstein" and not "clinton"

epstein was pimping barely underage girls for rich and powerful people, right? that's what's been well established as fact? where does the kid fucking tie into this? because i'm not saying this to defend pederasty but i don't think a bunch of millionaires trying to fuck 16 year old strippers in international waters is the same implicit category as the type of tying-up-little-kids-in-bondage-gear shit that hillary clinton's friends and joe biden's family were doing.

hindsight is 20/20 this shit was obviously a psyop to help the democrats cover their tracks and now that the fog of war has cleared people are kind of pissed that they got buskered into doing mental gymnastics so the democrats could cover for crack addicts and pederasts
 
Graham is insufferable but he often falls in line for Trump so it is what it is, pragmatically speaking anyway.
This infuriates me. Do you think a Graham replacement in South Carolina would oppose Trump? People like Lindsey Graham need to be run out of DC on a rail and never considered for any public position again. Instead we're just going to keep him going another 6 years? WTF?
 
I'd unironically sign up for ICE if it didn't involve being a glowie. (the only good kind of glowie but regardless)
I wouldn't use Saint Terry's, Uncle Ted, or MATI Josh's heuristics for 'honorable life course,' not that they aren't good men, but that beliefs have costs, and what those people believe compels you to act against most forms of self interest. Most of the evils it's done do not disqualify it over some other state--politics involves visiting evil on the undeserving at least as often as to the deserving. America's government, whatever it is, is more virtuous, competent, benevolent, and responsive than any theoretical replacement for it. America certainly needs ICE agents, it needs no more foreigners. America needs the political right activated, a movement of conscious men in the government in all levels and it needs them more than it needs you to be homeless and insane, a terrorist sending mailbombs to scholars because of the Industrial Revolution, or debanked for mocking America's most entertaining and special retards.
 
This infuriates me. Do you think a Graham replacement in South Carolina would oppose Trump? People like Lindsey Graham need to be run out of DC on a rail and never considered for any public position again. Instead we're just going to keep him going another 6 years? WTF?
Trump seems intent on keeping the allies he has in Congress rather then consolidating ideological control. Graham was against Trump in 2016 but ever since his first term he has sucked up to him hard but there is a good chance he is merely acting as an opportunist.

The Senator notably supported Trump's election recount efforts in 2020, said that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are lawfully elected after the events of January 6, 2021, voted against Trump's second impeachment and was against the January 6 commission. He has also criticized Trump for not supporting a federal abortion ban and said it was "a mistake" for Trump to pardon criminal defendants who pleaded guilty to or were convicted of violent crimes during the events of January 6 but at the same time he later defended Trump's decision to fire the 17 Inspectors General early into his second term.

He seems quite "fair-weather" with his political support at times to say the least.

Here is Graham getting booed in his own home state a few years ago and then immediately being defended by Trump:
 
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This infuriates me. Do you think a Graham replacement in South Carolina would oppose Trump? People like Lindsey Graham need to be run out of DC on a rail and never considered for any public position again. Instead we're just going to keep him going another 6 years? WTF?
Graham gets reelected because he keeps delivering what voters in SC want, and most importantly what the people who care about the South Carolina Republican Party want. They want pork, it's not like its 'waste' it's a defense contract for plants in the state, or some other dumb shit like that, but a lot of pork is some manufacturing program or a farm subsidy. The money gets spent in SC! The fat retards of SC want this piggish little faggot, they want a guy with seniority and rank on committees, they want a guy who minces around telling the president to stop being gay and bomb the Muslims (and they're right to want this, it's funny as hell). They want their state to keep its political leader since after all the bad things that God does to South Carolina and its residents just because, Lindsay Graham raises money for the party, spreads around what has to be spread around (thank God it's not HIV), and gets SC its due in the budgeting process and punches above its weight in the committees that actually hold power in the Senate. He changed his mind on Trump when he realized what the party had become and seeing what his constituents wanted, and probably also his path to charing the Judiciary Committee. Unprincipled, but principle isn't a super desirable trait in a lifetime pol.

Primary this guy? Why? To replace him with a less powerful, less wealthy, less connected, less useful guy whose only virtue is also being loyal to Trump? South Carolina's GOP would have to find a guy with a better, more patriotic bio, a longer record of delivering for his state, a guy who will somehow leave the people of South Carolina better off in terms of power and influence in national politics. Trump voters People don't mind gerontocracy if the guy isn't a visible fucking corpse and he still delivers today what he brought in yesterday.
 
Illegals getting yanked at doctors offices, where they were going probably get free surgery on your dime:

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I'm starting to realize I want to work for ICE:

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If the people in these videos could manage to squeeze out a sentence in English while their asses are getting hauled away, maybe they'd look a little more sympathetic.
Seeing them wail in a foreign language just makes it more obvious they don't belong here.
 
You guys realize that the "list" and anything remotely useful regarding Epstein was probably destroyed back when he was killed right? Pam Blondie was probably talking out of her ass before she even knew what she had when she said "it was on her desk". That's on her and she should probably be fired. Those press packs they gave to influencers were reportedly filled with already known information with some extra context here and there. I don't think there "is no list". They just don't have it because it was destroyed a long time ago. They wouldn't have made so much noise about releasing it and creating such a PR shitstorm if the plan was always to cover it up. That doesn't make sense.
 
You guys realize that the "list" and anything remotely useful regarding Epstein was probably destroyed back when he was killed right? Pam Blondie was probably talking out of her ass before she even knew what she had when she said "it was on her desk". That's on her and she should probably be fired. Those press packs they gave to influencers were reportedly filled with already known information with some extra context here and there. I don't think there "is no list". They just don't have it because it was destroyed a long time ago. They wouldn't have made so much noise about releasing it and creating such a PR shitstorm if the plan was always to cover it up. That doesn't make sense.
Yes pls fire this bitch. Disappointing results all across the board.
 
Fucking ABC.
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“Shooting incident that left Trump’s ear bloodied.” Nice downplay for “he almost got his head blown off.” Not to mention the guy in the back who, in fact, did get his head blown off. You think you hate them enough…
Is there any surprise over this? There were people both in mainstream and alternative outlets lamenting that the shooter failed to hit the target, and showed no compassion whatsoever for the innocents that were killed and injured.
 
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