US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Its actually insane that the dem appointed judges are willing to push things so far that now the question of birthright citizenship becomes incredibly consequential. No matter which direction the court goes its hard to imagine threading the needle in a way that doesn't shift the landscape of the country in profound ways. Nothing Ever Happens bros, thoughts?
Not really. Chances are it'll be tossed in the first, lowest court it gets to and every higher court then refusing to hear an appeal by jjust quoting the plain text of the 14th Amendment.
 
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We're not "demoralization agents" because we want Trump's promises fulfilled
did you really think rich and powerful people were going to suffer consequences for something? that only happens in fairy tales, societal collapses, or when they're arrogant enough to think their money makes them more powerful than natural forces like that Titanic submarine guy. and for the latter sometimes money can perform miracles like make man fly or travel to the moon

the espstein list is fun to meme about but we were never actually going to get a list of people that can have you disappeared or collapse the economy, or are connected to people who are. we don't live in a fairy tale and you can still buy twinkies for a few dollars at Walmart and a 50" TV for $170 on Amazon so we're not going to have a societal collapse anytime soon either

it sucks, but that's life bro
 
Jesus Christ. I knew about a few of these but what in the fuck????

What we should be asking, since old Don was pals with Eppy anyway and so likely involved somehow someway but we'll never know...
Donald Trump was one of the only people to actually help Epstein's victims. Either you, and the rest of the demoralizers, are completely piss ignorant about Epstein and Trump, or it's deliberate. To be honest, it's hard to tell which with you guys sometimes, but some of us have actually been paying attention for the last decade and change.

Why are the elite so into this shit?
Same reason gangs have initiations, now you're one of them and you can't go back.
 
Drunkposting is generally ill-advised. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in years.

That is a significant accomplishment. Must feel good. I try not to drunk post for obv reasons. Too easy to say stupid(er) shit.

Related: I also would like to believe altho you're all kinda weird, that you're good people IRL, doing the best you can and probably pretty chill to hang with.

So don't want to drag your day down with more negativity. We get enough of that in life. Faggot.
 
Is it the water or the Swedish origins of shitlib Minnesota, that leads to the state producing producing the kind of men that AI like Grok want to rape.
 
The dude is an angry drunk who turns on people.
You are utterly delusional. It's a goddamn message board, none of you are anything more than pixels. I don't even drink anymore, drank once in maybe two years and that was election night.

You make these huge accusations, with zero merit whatsoever.
 
I agree with some of this, but "classical" (if that's what you meant by "traditional"?) Liberalism most certainly allows for, and sometimes assumes, "duty and care" by "those who wield power." Classical Liberalism is not devoid of morality and tradition; often-times, though, primary thinkers/ shapers of it assumed moral/ traditional/ cultural norms and simply didn't see much necessity of prescribing it through government.
No. It absolutely does not. Liberalism establishes the Liberal State as an absolute establishment of the popular will. In traditional European Theology and Political theory, the State is not a "bottom up" phenomenon of the popular will. It is a "top down" phenomenon of God's ordered creation.

The United States, as a Liberal State, immediately proclaims its adherence to the core ethos of Liberalism in the opening preamble "We the people." An absurd notion, as if the people had anything to do with it. Every single member of the continental congress were landed aristocrats or wealthy merchants. They didn't revolt against their king for "the people". They revolted against their King because the King of England wouldn't give them patents of nobility (Southern Aristocrats) and trade rights (New England Merchants) respectively. The King of England also took things a step further and declared that the people of America were not Englishmen. They were subject peoples foreign to England. This was the final nail in the coffin of the first British Empire that united the common peasants of North America with the Aristocrats and caused the American revolution.

Lord North really should be pilloried more back in England for this fuck up. It was more his policies then George III. He managed to unite the Merchants, Landed gentry and Peasants in the 13 colonies against the crown. An amazing accomplishment of absolute incompetence.

The US however was the opening salvo and established the first Liberal State. There had been liberal revolts before, but the American Revolution was the first one to win. And its why the USA claims to be the worlds oldest democracy. Despite not actually being that.

And after it won, the US ultimately codified into law its sovereign will over the American people. No union of church and state being part of the 1st principle. And to this day every Americans clap like a seals about how this victory of freedom over tyranny is such a good thing.

Why DOES the US Government proscribe a State Religion? Its because a State Religion imposes external ideological and moral imperatives on the State itself. And a Liberal State cannot be bound by any imperatives but the immediate will and desire of "the people". Who are retarded. Which means the State has no guiding moral principles beyond careening from whatever desire the people have to whatever desire the people in charge can convince the people they have.

Liberal Thinkers have spent CENTURIES trying to figure out how to replace the Christian God in their liberal state. And they have failed. Failed in such utterly catastrophic ways that not only has their failure driven the Christian god from our lands, now the alien gods of Islam and Hinduism are being imposed on us by the "common humanity".

And people ask me why I am a monarchist.
 
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Can any of the doomposters name one single politician who'd ever have the docs published. Who do you think would have had the balls for it?

Now it's okay to not care about stopping pedos?

Since Trump partially ran on exposing the swamp as part of his campaign promise three times now and...

The swamp has tried to kill him multiple times.

What is happening here.
 
A lot of Asia is like that. When my parents came to visit me they were amazed at how they can leave their luggage unattended on the luggage rack on the train and everything will still be there afterwards.
Wanna know something stupid. I worked an info booth at a NASCAR race (they pay local club/church/charity, you deal with shit hours to make your club/church/charity money) and due to a rules change tons of attendees had to leave their seat cushions (metal rails and frames) outside next to our tent. Not one got stolen out of hundreds of chairs, tens of thousands of attendees, half of them trashed. We didn't know whos were whos... they were just in a pile vaguely near our tent and everyone knew it.
White trash doesn't steal... so who's doing all of the theft?
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The last time I was in Japan, I needed to get to a particular address. I managed to get close to it but couldn't find it because holy fuck the way street addresses work there is incomprehensible sometimes. So I went into the nearest 7-11 to ask for directions. The clerk literally took me by the arm and escorted me to where I needed to go. That's the difference between Japan and the US.
Hey, I ran into a random lost looking dude at the gas station last week and lead him to the factory he was interviewing for a job at. We do that here too.
 
Donald Trump was one of the only people to actually help Epstein's victims.

If you knew anything about Eppy, you'd know this is something that's debated about and whether it was strategically benefiting him and to what extent its been exaggerated.

did you really think rich and powerful people were going to suffer consequences for something?

We are now entering the "did you acktually expect to get anything?" phase of the Great Cope. It was all a joke, bro! Thanks for the vote in the Most Important Election Ever!
 
He frequently praises people and then shits on them when he starts drinking. The dude is an angry drunk who turns on people. Very Elon Musk behaviour.
That's why you gotta be like me and be an angry drunk who turns people on :suffering: or wakes up hungover to 150 trashcans and tophats. It's worth the gamba.

A little more on topic. If nobody got actually punished for The Finders, or MKULTRA, or the Tuskeegee Experiments I think it's extremely naive to think Epstein was ever gonna be unveiled. The only way you avoid glownigger shit is by either A: killing all glowniggers (not gonna happen) or B: requiring all government officials to be livestreamed 24/7 with a jury system wherein 7 random people are required to record them from every angle every waking moment of their life. Also you can donate money to buy TTS and verball abuse them and maybe if you donate enough Frank Hassle throws shit at them and pours milk on them.
 
Now it's okay to not care about stopping pedos?

Since Trump partially ran on exposing the swamp as part of his campaign promise three times now and...

The swamp has tried to kill him multiple times.

What is happening here.
If they're actively investigating pedos, especially a well connected bunch like the Epstein people, how would releasing information about that investigation benefit the investigation? Other than tipping their hand? How is letting the Swamp know your current targets going to benefit you in removing them?
 
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