What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[Hinttitroniikka]

Very true. There's a LOT of anglicism incorporation going on in those areas. The concept of "gender" seperate from "sex" doesn't really exist in German, so we're using "gender" now.

German is a particularly crazy one to me with Neudeutsch and Denglisch, terms like "coole Stories" "Wir haben gedatet" things like that. The claim that you can't say these things in German without sounding old-fashioned or stupid or something is the end goal in my theory. Get rid of these cultures and identities and become unable to read old texts in their original languages, and assimilate into this other dominant thing, so that even very recent history becomes foreign to you. You can't keep up an identity that you don't feel is yours. Whether it's intentional or not, it does work, but I share the thought here because I think that there are some forces who do it intentionally with this globohomo goal in mind. I'm not saying Denglisch is the antichrist, and in a way there's nothing wrong with loanwords, but when you take it so far that you're disconnected from even just your parents' generation because you see something as neutral as language as cringe, that's a problem.

 

[neu]

I'm probably just going to be rambling here and I'm sure this has been asked before but why exactly is it that things went into overdrive circa 2019-2020, followed by what seems to be a general decline in the amount of effort put into concealing the larger, underlying agendas? Sure, I have some ideas of my own but I feel like there has to be more to it.

Maybe I'm wrong and nothing's really changed but to me, it feels like since then things are generally being pushed out faster and at a larger scale with narratives being revised more frequently and more haphazardly. For example, the official narrative surrounding COVID-19 changed countless times in a relatively short time span and a lot of the attempts to conceal any malice just felt lazier than usual. It's also as if they couldn't help but do everything at once, like everyone was supposed to be quarantined but at the same time, there had to be people rioting on the streets to end racism? (There's also the recent Epstein cover-up , which it could just be attributed to TPTB being confident in their ability to operate with impunity but, it exudes incompetence to the extent that it's almost hard to believe it could be that simple; I mean, they could've just continued to say nothing and been better off that way, no?) Once it seemed like the whole thing had subsided, the war in Ukraine broke out and even then, for a while the media would still constantly be talking about a "new variant". I remember the Ghislaine case concluding at around the same time but it feels like it was, almost deliberately, eclipsed by everything else. It's kind of something people joke about but it does kind of feel like "nothing ever happens" now that we're in a state of constant happenings but, maybe that's the point -- to just have so much going on that it's hard to keep track of or even care at all?

Anyways, still not entirely sure why but I just remember 2019 being the year that there was this meteoric rise in identity politics, social justice, etc. type narratives: transgenderism, racism, climate change, the "destigmatization" of prostitution and pornography -- all issues being pushed not on their own merit, but rather for their capacity to be used as a means to further destabilize society. It feels like even before the lockdowns, there was an influx of people becoming some sort of genderspecial faggot or tranny, getting caught up in retarded culture war narratives, being more open about their sexual deviancy, and so on. Also, the internet as a whole really started to go to shit of course, especially with all the strides towards censorship in the wake of the lockdowns, and I remember AI was just on its way to becoming a really mainstream thing at around this time as well. It just feels like the turn of the most recent decade marked probably the greatest strides that have been made towards insidious hidden agendas since 9/11 but sadly it seems like somehow, the vast majority of people legitimately just forget shit the same day it happens.

 

[idiotreform]

Anyways, still not entirely sure why but I just remember 2019 being the year that there was this meteoric rise in identity politics, social justice, etc. type narratives: transgenderism, racism, climate change, the "destigmatization" of prostitution and pornography -- all issues being pushed not on their own merit, but rather for their capacity to be used as a means to further destabilize society. It feels like even before the lockdowns, there was an influx of people becoming some sort of genderspecial faggot or tranny, getting caught up in retarded culture war narratives, being more open about their sexual deviancy, and so on

I whole-heartedly believe that the rise in identity politics is done on purpose for malicious reasoning. It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group. The big push of certain ideologies in movies and TV that majority of people don't agree with nor want to support seems calculated. There's no way corporations that spend millions of dollars in researching what the public wants don't know that people don't want identity politics and constant reminders of racism forced down their throat. The covid pandemic just put things into overdrive.

 

[regalterry]

I whole-heartedly believe that the rise in identity politics is done on purpose for malicious reasoning. It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group.

You don't have to speculate, we know it is for a fact, at least in the private sector. Corporations like Amazon push woke identity politics to create division among the workforce and decrease the chance of them unionizing.

 

[ParasiteSteve]

It's also very common for adult prostitutes to be victims of child sexual abuse.

I think thats a meme, like the "child sex abusers were often abused themselves".

I have worked with lots of ex-hookers and very few were abused as children, sexually or otherwise. The biggest contributing factor is drugs, its pretty much at 100% bar some who were mentally disabled and manipulated into it. Early in to recovery they will often blame anything they can for their situation, but the actual success stories always drop that shit and admit they just needed the cash for drugs, drugs which fucked up their lives.

Its kinda like the meme of telling a junkie that the drugs are really fucking them up, when they are likely more aware of how much its destroying them.

Maybe I am just jaded, but I think a lot of the information about hookers, homelessness etc is all lies. Once you get to know these people its almost always some gay sob story, then the core of it is pretty much always "yeah, I do drugs..."

Drugs can mean booze as well, substance abuse would be a better term for me to use.

 

[snowdunes]

I think thats a meme, like the "child sex abusers were often abused themselves".

I have worked with lots of ex-hookers and very few were abused as children, sexually or otherwise. The biggest contributing factor is drugs, its pretty much at 100% bar some who were mentally disabled and manipulated into it. Early in to recovery they will often blame anything they can for their situation, but the actual success stories always drop that shit and admit they just needed the cash for drugs, drugs which fucked up their lives.

Its kinda like the meme of telling a junkie that the drugs are really fucking them up, when they are likely more aware of how much its destroying them.

Maybe I am just jaded, but I think a lot of the information about hookers, homelessness etc is all lies. Once you get to know these people its almost always some gay sob story, then the core of it is pretty much always "yeah, I do drugs..."

Drugs can mean booze as well, substance abuse would be a better term for me to use.

Same with human trafficking, a hugely memed/overused sob story.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

I whole-heartedly believe that the rise in identity politics is done on purpose for malicious reasoning. It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group. The big push of certain ideologies in movies and TV that majority of people don't agree with nor want to support seems calculated. There's no way corporations that spend millions of dollars in researching what the public wants don't know that people don't want identity politics and constant reminders of racism forced down their throat. The covid pandemic just put things into overdrive.

i believe the push in identity politics is also in order to make people want the rights of certain individuals taken away

make, say, legbutts annoying enough and eventually people will go "ok, fine, you can take away their rights" and suddenly it's a slippery slope, it's fair game to do the same to everyone

 

[PhoBingas]

I'm not saying social pressures are an excuse to be retarded, but that it doesn't help if the media and society are pushing this narrative on the youth, starting when they're literal children, that trooning out and prostituting yourself is woke and empowering. It usually takes these women experiencing the worst of the prostitution world before they leave it. And if they haven't been doing anything to learn actual skills and their only family are similarly retarded probable drug addicts, I'm not surprised they find it hard to escape. (I say that since usually if you come from a good home life, you won't become a prostitute)

Every couple months, you'll see news articles that come off as like concern trolling about Onlyfans being negative for women and exploitative on one hand and on the other hand subtly to not so subtlety advertising that the subject of the article is making like 5 grand selling pictures of their bootyhole. You've got social media and legacy media both pushing it.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group

It makes it easier to push laws/restrictions using ratchet effect. Pit one side against the other on an issue, then flip the roles and voila, both agree X should be stopped/taken away.

Black face, Tesla cars, green energy, we've seen it all.

 

[NoReturn]

You don't have to speculate, we know it is for a fact, at least in the private sector. Corporations like Amazon push woke identity politics to create division among the workforce and decrease the chance of them unionizing.

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61403
From: https://www.businessinsider.com/whole-foods-tracks-unionization-risk-with-heat-map-2020-1
https://archive.is/1khJw

Maybe I am just jaded, but I think a lot of the information about hookers, homelessness etc is all lies. Once you get to know these people its almost always some gay sob story, then the core of it is pretty much always "yeah, I do drugs..."

Drugs can mean booze as well, substance abuse would be a better term for me to use.

I don't have a lot of firsthand experience with hookers, but I can back you up for sure on the homeless.

 

[neu]

I whole-heartedly believe that the rise in identity politics is done on purpose for malicious reasoning. It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group.

Yeah, absolutely. I remember seeing an image showing that media coverage of racism rose dramatically in the aftermath of the occupy wall street movement; I'd post it if I could find it. Regardless, it's definitely part of a divide and conquer strategy with the added benefit of keeping people distracted from potentially more serious issues.

Anyways, while the whole culture war thing obviously took off years earlier, I just found it interesting that I remember a reignited interest in identity politics circa 2019 because it's almost as if preparations were being made to roll out the pandemic and the accompanying riots the following year. I mean, organizations with an apparent interest in public health have held several "pandemic preparation" exercises throughout the years but there was a greater concentration of them in 2019 for some reason and, touching on the topic of the declining quality and growing censorship of the internet around that time, in the Event 201 exercise they specifically address the importance of controlling the narrative on social media platforms as to curb "misinformation", etc. I just feel a lot of it had to do with advancing the idea that there's certain things you can and cannot say which again, ultimately makes it easier to maintain control over everyone.

There's no way corporations that spend millions of dollars in researching what the public wants don't know that people don't want identity politics and constant reminders of racism forced down their throat. The covid pandemic just put things into overdrive.

It could be a reach but I honestly think that, similarly to how the pandemic was almost certainly extremely profitable to all the wealthy people making enormous investments into pharmaceuticals, the heightened focus on identity politics and the like at the time also has to have been profitable in some regard. Like I said before, I remember at the time there was a push to "destigmatize" drugs, porn, etc. -- there was also a push for "mental health awareness" and more talk surrounding gender relations. Regardless of what people may actually think of these issues, I think what they have in common is that they can all somehow be profitable (especially for the pharmaceutical industry, similarly to the pandemic). Obviously, a lot of the gays, trannies, and people with substance dependencies are easy lifetime patients you can sell more drugs and procedures to. The idea of "sex positivity" encourages more people to consume pornography, leads more women to develop an interest in becoming prostitutes, and increases the demand for contraceptives, abortion, and similar substances or procedures. Even "mental health awareness" is seemingly just a front to put more people on bullshit like SSRIs.

i believe the push in identity politics is also in order to make people want the rights of certain individuals taken away

make, say, legbutts annoying enough and eventually people will go "ok, fine, you can take away their rights" and suddenly it's a slippery slope, it's fair game to do the same to everyone

I think it's been used as a means to force people to take sides and more easily control the swing of the pendulum too. It further reinfornces the false left right dichotomy and undermines the already basically useless choice people have: women and minorities are expected to default to the liberal candidate whereas straight white men are pushed towards conservatism. It also allows you to have people who are fiercely loyal to one side, like the trannies who are convinced that anyone right of center will have them killed on sight.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

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https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61403
From: https://www.businessinsider.com/whole-foods-tracks-unionization-risk-with-heat-map-2020-1
https://archive.is/1khJw


I don't have a lot of firsthand experience with hookers, but I can back you up for sure on the homeless.

unions are pretty terrible though and the fact that they're treated as such an objective good that anyone who doesn't like them is cartoonishly evil and anti basic-good-things, probably also twirls their mustache and kicks puppies for fun, is absolutely manufactured

unions are presented as these simple situations where groups of individuals simply come together to demand basic rights, but that's not the case, you can do that without entering a union
a union is more akin to a business cult, a group of workplace bullies who will strong arm their way to making money for the cult and believing it'll be shared

 

[failed mist]

Everyone is saying that Zohran Mamdani’s dad Mahmood is a turbowoke Columbia professor

I’m reading his shit and his thesis is that identity politics was invented by British colonial administrators in the 1850s to manage and control their vast global empire. They would create official legal definitions of vague regional identities, setting those divides in stone, and then play the groups off each other.

Not only is this so woke it’s borderline unwoke, I think I fucking buy it.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Everyone is saying that Zohran Mamdani’s dad Mahmood is a turbowoke Columbia professor

I’m reading his shit and his thesis is that identity politics was invented by British colonial administrators in the 1850s to manage and control their vast global empire. They would create official legal definitions of vague regional identities, setting those divides in stone, and then play the groups off each other.

Not only is this so woke it’s borderline unwoke, I think I fucking buy it.

i think the term "woke" has truly lost it's meaning when it became a synonym for "leftwing politics" because you get stupid statement like these

"his politics are partially typically leftwing and partially not... i-is it woke? is it un woke? is the woke stack overflowing into unwoke or vice versa?" no, it's a unique set of politics that speak for themselves, not some highschool kid who had to make his choice of afterschool club
i think the best way to use the term 'woke' is to use it on the exact same types of people who would use it to refer to themselves back when the term meant "i'm like, so awoken to the oppressions of the world and #aware of the #truth" basically the spiritualists of sociopolitics, it's best used to refer to trend chasing individuals or companies that try and seem as 'in' with da kidz as possible, chasing that progressive train to seem kewl so hard that they end up ran over it
you have to imagine a modern gay hippie aunt with dreamcatchers for earrings going on a soul quest to africa to hug the starving african kids and bring feminist dance theory to iran
it doesn't just mean some old politician who aligns with the democrats or someone's dad who votes blue

 

[Meriasek]

I whole-heartedly believe that the rise in identity politics is done on purpose for malicious reasoning. It's easier to control divided groups of people than a unified group. The big push of certain ideologies in movies and TV that majority of people don't agree with nor want to support seems calculated. There's no way corporations that spend millions of dollars in researching what the public wants don't know that people don't want identity politics and constant reminders of racism forced down their throat. The covid pandemic just put things into overdrive.

Identity politics really kicked off right with Occupy Wallstreet and ruined it. Since then it has been an invaluable tool for dividing the people. The current pendulum swing back right is also part of it, focusing on immigrants when the real issue is a broken system.

 

[Cheetahman]

I’m reading his shit and his thesis is that identity politics was invented by British colonial administrators in the 1850s to manage and control their vast global empire. They would create official legal definitions of vague regional identities, setting those divides in stone, and then play the groups off each other.

Not only is this so woke it’s borderline unwoke, I think I fucking buy it.

Isn't this literally exactly what happened? India was originally 20+ distinct regions before being subsumed by the British Raj.
Another example, the Rwandan genocide was the culmination of a long Belgian campaign to utilize the minority Tutsi against the Hutu, which worked out exactly as expected because all of that resentment went towards slaughtering the Tutsi, instead of towards the Belgians who implemented the policies.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Yeah Occupy Wall Street was destroyed by indentity politics. The first few days had a coherent message and a decent core of people but then the commies jumped into it and started pushing their bullshit because they saw it as their chance to push communism on America.

They started dividing people by race and sex, talking about things not to do with the financial crisis, demanding people order their speaking roles in accordance to social status down to having specific hand gestures to let people interrupt others and shit.

Caused the entire thing to collapse, and the people in power noticed. Obama really played into it and was happy to boost it, using the theater kids and swindling them into kissing his ass despite the fact his politics were barely different from GWB when it came to the war on terror.

 

[NoReturn]

Yeah Occupy Wall Street was destroyed by indentity politics. The first few days had a coherent message and a decent core of people but then the commies jumped into it and started pushing their bullshit because they saw it as their chance to push communism on America.

They started dividing people by race and sex, talking about things not to do with the financial crisis, demanding people order their speaking roles in accordance to social status down to having specific hand gestures to let people interrupt others and shit.

Caused the entire thing to collapse, and the people in power noticed. Obama really played into it and was happy to boost it, using the theater kids and swindling them into kissing his ass despite the fact his politics were barely different from GWB when it came to the war on terror.

It was the first time a lot of people ran into "the progressive stack" and even from hour-one a lot of us were like "Hey, is this some kind of like, sabotage? What's happening here?"

 

[cactus]

Yeah Occupy Wall Street was destroyed by indentity politics. The first few days had a coherent message and a decent core of people but then the commies jumped into it and started pushing their bullshit because they saw it as their chance to push communism on America.

They started dividing people by race and sex, talking about things not to do with the financial crisis, demanding people order their speaking roles in accordance to social status down to having specific hand gestures to let people interrupt others and shit.

Caused the entire thing to collapse, and the people in power noticed. Obama really played into it and was happy to boost it, using the theater kids and swindling them into kissing his ass despite the fact his politics were barely different from GWB when it came to the war on terror.

I think the people who sowed all that division and identity politics were all plants. The people who run things were actually scared for once and did the only thing guaranteed to work.

 

[three_little_rats]

Sweden has laws that states it's illegal to buy sex, but legal to sell sex. So prostitutes can not be prosecuted for it, but the buyers are. The idea is that whores who are controlled by a pimp/criminal network are not going to jail for being "victims" when the police arrests people involved in this. Since custom OF videos can be seen as "digital prostitution" (person to person), therefore the state made it illegal to pay for custom OF videos. The moral reason is that "You can't buy a Swedish woman, but a Swedish woman can make her own choice" (Kek! I know...).

Is it even enforceable? What if a Swede buys it form US or Asia or Russia? How would they even know?