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Should be a wild four years.

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It's called having a job and social obligations.

If you're averaging more than two or three posts a day than you should probably look in the mirror.
I'm glad your social obligations ceased on a Saturday evening long enough for you to hang out in the Autistic Thunderdome with us :)
3 shitposts/day is nothing. I'm not even hitting my stride yet.
 
It suggests there is more, they just don't want to talk about it, and aren't actively investigating.
Trump did say in the same Tweet that they are actively investigating things like election integrity and illegal immigrants, so that's some good news, but he really should have just left any references to Epstein out of the post.
 
This is utter lunacy. Americans are the insane neighbor who will ask you how your day is going and offer to help you fix your car one day and then operate killdozers the next.
We are currently talking about Tranny strike teams conducting (failed lmao) ambushes on police facilities over Latinx deportations.

People would absolutely get violent.
Single cases of individuals destroying government buildings or organizations of mentally ill lunatics failing to raid police facilities do not reflect the majority of Americans and their capacity for violence. Millions of people believed the 2020 election was stolen and millions of people did absolutely nothing. No one (including you) launched private investigations of tracking down and interrogating poll workers who blocked off windows while counting votes. The only people you could say did anything were the January 6 protesters who hardly did anything. Null even had a segment on MATI a long time ago where I believe Texans (could've be another state I don't remember well) genuinely believed that the snow that had fallen was fake and was poison being administered by the government and they did nothing besides post videos about it to social media.

Political assassinations have historically led to civil unrest in the western world *cough cough* WWI, especially if it's an extremely popular populist politician that gets knocked off. It might not happen right away, but when weekend at Biden's or true and honest negress Kamala can't hold shit together it's gonna pop off.
You are comparing an event that occurred over a century ago which drew the response from world leaders to a hypothetical assassination which would only draw a response from mostly obese US citizens.

The thing stopping this cold civil war from going hot isn’t ‘laziness’. It’s that one side has far more to lose than the other. If Trump had been killed we may well have seen escalating reprisal attacks on both sides, and before you know it, Balkan Wars have come to the USA.
Where was the civil war that should've happened after JFK was shot? Why didn't Jim Crow Southerners try to secede again and why weren't there large scale attacks against them by liberal Northerners? Trump getting domed would at worst lead to a bunch of 1992 LA riots which can happen over anything. People do not revolt against governments unless their basic needs are not met or they're experience wide spread, beyond LA riots style violence, and I doubt any state governments sympathetic to Trump would be willing to attempt secession and fight against the US Military.
 
Trump did say in the same Tweet that they are actively investigating things like election integrity and illegal immigrants, so that's some good news, but he really should have just left any references to Epstein out of the post.
Well, Bongino and Patel are forcing Trump to keep talking about it by threatening to resign if Pam Bondi doesn't get fired. Trump really doesn't want to fire Bondi for some reason, I guess it's purely because she's loyal? Trump refuses to even acknowledge that she fucked up at all, yet he doesn't want Bongino or Patel to quit either. Trump was going to have to address this shit, this is all a fire of his own making and he can't get away with dropping it now.
 
I am very confident that, if Trump got domed, that would have been instant civil war. No doubt in my mind. I still think that kid was groomed and there's no excuse for how close he got. There was literally a fucking ladder set up on the building for him. Maybe there is a logical explanation for everything and it really was a perfect storm of coincidences, but - as @Elim Garak might say - with a very convenient assassination in one hand and a dead candidate in the other, I ask you: what conclusion would you draw?
Why are you so sure it would happen and how that play out
 
He said "god will provide for me" as he stared at the broken corpse of his son in the ditch before him. "I must love my enemy and never pick up a weapon to fight back, for then I would become exactly like them".

He felt the cold steel of the gun barrel pressed against the back of his head. His final thought "At least I loved my neighbor and never raised a hand against them to protect myself or my family" before the cold black void consumed him.
Were you too gay & retarded for fashy alt-right forums, and that brought you here?
 
This Epstein shit is a disaster and Trump is handling it like a gigantic retard but you're a fool if you think it'll actually effect elections. People will forget about it in 2 months, let alone by midterms. Democrats already hate Trump and Trumps base, while many are rightfully enraged by the handling of the documents, will probably continue to vote for (R)/MAGA endorsed candidates in 2026. It's a massive optics L for Trump but if he shuts the fuck up soon no one will care by next year.
 
Trump really doesn't want to fire Bondi for some reason, I guess it's purely because she's loyal?
I've read that the DOJ has been countering all the bullshit legal injunctions in a laser-focused, expert manner, so he may be afraid that dumping Bondi would shake up the DOJ to a point that it would destabilize all the fights against the leftist judges, though I'm not sure of the validity of that.
 
Well. I gave it an hour.

Are any of you going to call me out for saying the total opposite today from what I was saying earlier in the week? I was mocking you people about it and calling you stupid. But now I posted what you want to hear and you are thrilled.

This is a test. You guys are a bunch of idiots being led around by the nose. Your anger over any of this stuff is theatrical at best. Go play video games or jerk off instead.
Sorry, who are you?
 
Why are you so sure it would happen and how that play out
The shooter got into the event with a gun, a building 100 yards from Trump was unsecured, there was a ladder there for the kid to climb up, and the event continued even after people were screaming that they spotted a kid with a gun on a building with a clear line of sight to Trump. All of that is extremely fishy. This is on top of all the consistent lawfare and violent anti-Trump rhetoric going on. Do you really think people would believe the Biden administration saying the shooter acted alone and Trump got killed because of simple security failures? The answer is no. People would immediately suspect foul play and people would be fucking pissed.

At that point, the only argument against a civil war is that Americans are too stupid and lazy to do it. If you sincerely believe this, then you're no better than the elitist Democrats who think they can get away with anything. Bread and circus only goes so far and only people who have never experienced violence in their entire lives think that's enough to make people forget about political assassination. Americans burn their cities down when their sportsball teams win and people want the rest of us to think they won't go insane when their political candidate is assassinated, possibly by the opposition party that's been "joking" about killing him for years? I guess you can say that, but let me ask you something first: do you want to own a bridge in Brooklyn?
 
This Epstein shit is a disaster and Trump is handling it like a gigantic retard but you're a fool if you think it'll actually effect elections. People will forget about it in 2 months, let alone by midterms. Democrats already hate Trump and Trumps base, while many are rightfully enraged by the handling of the documents, will probably continue to vote for (R)/MAGA endorsed candidates in 2026. It's a massive optics L for Trump but if he shuts the fuck up soon no one will care by next year.
Eyes on the prize- neutering the judiocracy, dismantling Dem election infrastructure, and the gold medal- mass deportations.

At that point, the only argument against a civil war is that Americans are too stupid and lazy to do it. If you sincerely believe this, then you're no better than the elitist Democrats who think they can get away with anything. Bread and circus only goes so far and only people who have never experienced violence in their entire lives think that's enough to make people forget about political assassination. Americans burn their cities down when their sportsball teams win and people want the rest of us to think they won't go insane when their political candidate is assassinated, possibly by the opposition party that's been "joking" about killing him for years? I guess you can say that, but let me ask you something first: do you want to own a bridge in Brooklyn?
Democrat rhetoric and their supporter’s actions already point towards a low-intensity civil war.
 
Trump did say in the same Tweet that they are actively investigating things like election integrity and illegal immigrants, so that's some good news, but he really should have just left any references to Epstein out of the post.
Okay so he lied about the Epstein stuff but everything else he said he's investigating is true. Right. Wanna buy some oceanfront property in Phoenix?
 
Man, I'm sure if Kamala was elected, we'd totally have the Epstein files right now. :smug:
You can realize the person who never ran on releasing the files would never release the files AND still be upset the one who did who famously touts ‘Promises Made, Promises Kept’ pretty blatantly shat the bed as well. You can even do all that and still be happy for the good things!
 
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