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Epstein is a disappointment but is this really a fucking single issue that will define trump? Really?
you dont get to run on the promise of being anti establishment / draining the swamp, get elected in part because of that promise, and then completely backtrack and not do it. it completely breaks the illusion of him being any different than the other cuck candidates and beyond that he did the same exact shit with taxes. he lied about changing tax rates to benefit middle class / blue collar workers and then when the time came none of it happened. its exposed him for being a bullshitting politician just like everyone else, like when biden ran on the promise of forgiving student loans then never actually doing it. people are fed up with being blatantly lied to by these pieces of shit and i dont blame them, especially when it concerns a fucking pedophilia ring.

Won't that fuck them over when they inevitably get voted in then? I mean they're sure as fuck not going to release it. Half (optimistic) their donors and Bill Clinton are on the list. If they keep running with this it'll be easily turned around on them. And again, that assumes it even still exists. I really don't understand why people think this list is still around. They had the means to get into a secure monitored cell but they couldn't destroy some evidence at the FBI?
100%. but just like trump they can lie about it to get elected and then never deliver on the promise of releasing it. anyone with half a brain would know they arent going to release it because they already had the opportunity under biden to do it. we have seriously transcended right vs left because no matter who wins actual things dont change. these cunts never get exposed for their sins, they all cover for each other and foreign policy basically stays exactly the same. we get to vote for shit like border security and tranny mockery but beyond that it doesnt really matter.
 
Epstein is the embodiment off the Swamp
If Trump is telling you to ignore the Wamp that he tried so hard to fight before
You wouldn´t feel a sense off Betrayal
This Trump version of "I did not have sexual relationship with that woman"
It will hurt a lot but i won´t make him lose in 2028,unless things get even worse.
I'm more so worried about Trump backing down on other things he ran on along with backing down on the Epstein situation. Backing down on staying out of the Ukraine war and letting them "fight it out" as Trump said before, talking about amnesty for illegals (this is a grey area but it's against what Trump said previously and people are pissed about it regardless), continuing to fund Moderna "spikevax" vaccines for children, promoting neocons, not to mention a lot of the right has started co-opting identity politics to defend these things that could hurt Trump. It really isn't just the Epstein shit that people are upset about.
 
Neoliberals infuriated that the Big Beautiful Bill pauses coercive funding of abortion for a year will be pleased to hear that the state of Washington has stepped forward to help keep the obscenely lucrative prenatal abattoir Planned Parenthood in the money:
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Planned Parenthood receives at least $22 million per year in Washington for Medicaid funding, including at least $11 million of the funds coming from the federal government.

Planned Parenthood is currently in court challenging the federal government’s decision to cut its funding, and [Democrat Governor Bob] Ferguson stated he will make state funding available if the litigation is not successful…

Ferguson squeaks that Washington taxpayers will “cover the gap.”

Meanwhile, the Evergreen State is facing a $10 billion shortfall. But the important thing is to kill unwanted babies; shitlibs like Ferguson can worry about how to pay for it later.
 
Epstein is a disappointment but is this really a fucking single issue that will define trump? Really?
SHOULD it be? No. But unfortunately, people are understandably angry as this was a major point of his campaign. Trump and people like Bongino made SUCH A FUCKING PRODUCTION about accusing the Biden admin of hiding things, and used uncovering all of Biden's malfeasance as a major campaign point. Hell, half this board was rabid about Biden hiding the Epstein files and accused Biden himself of fucking kids on the island almost non stop. So many people were absolutely convinced that a second Trump admin would FINALLY see the files released, and Biden and Co in handcuffs because of it.

So much so, that to suggest otherwise in late 2024 or early 2025 around here was seen as liberal copium and earned you no shortage of solicitations to kill yourself. Those folks now are pretending this isn't a big deal because god forbid they admit they've brought home the "Fell for it" award, but people really are feeling betrayed as the Epstine files were a major source of anger to begin with.
 
Is there even an actual list or is this something cooked out of nothing?
Blondi said this on Fox News in Feb.


then on the 4th of July, the DOJ said there wasn't any list.
But when pressed about the turnabout on the 7th, she said she was talking about the epstein files, not the client list. Even though the host is asking her about the client list, she never clarifies that she's talking about the epstein files. If she isn't lying now.
 
SHOULD it be? No. But unfortunately, people are understandably angry as this was a major point of his campaign. Trump and people like Bongino made SUCH A FUCKING PRODUCTION about accusing the Biden admin of hiding things, and used uncovering all of Biden's malfeasance as a major campaign point. Hell, half this board was rabid about Biden hiding the Epstein files and accused Biden himself of fucking kids on the island almost non stop. So many people were absolutely convinced that a second Trump admin would FINALLY see the files released, and Biden and Co in handcuffs because of it.

So much so, that to suggest otherwise in late 2024 or early 2025 around here was seen as liberal copium and earned you no shortage of solicitations to kill yourself. Those folks now are pretending this isn't a big deal because god forbid they admit they've brought home the "Fell for it" award, but people really are feeling betrayed as the Epstine files were a major source of anger to begin with.
If bongino wants to save his brand, he should quit his deputy role
 
I'm more so worried about Trump backing down on other things he ran on along with backing down on the Epstein situation. Backing down on staying out of the Ukraine war and letting them "fight it out" as Trump said before, talking about amnesty for illegals (this is a grey area but it's against what Trump said previously and people are pissed about it regardless), continuing to fund Moderna "spikevax" vaccines for children, promoting neocons, not to mention a lot of the right has started co-opting identity politics to defend these things that could hurt Trump. It really isn't just the Epstein shit that people are upset about.
Its a symbol of things Trump said he wouldn't do in his second term. But is doing now after getting in.
 
All nations have Crowns, and All nations have thrones. The greatest crime of Liberalism has been to divorce a people from the idea that there is something intrinsic about themselves and the land they live on that gives a simple mortal the right to sit a chair in judgment over them and wear on his brow the symbol of his authority over them.

Liberal theory has been very good at trying to pretend that this very necessary human response is not required and can instead be replaced with trite symbols and written laws as a farce.

America absolutely does have a Throne, and a Crown. And both have been ignored. The throne has had unworthy stewards put in inferior chairs before it, while the crown itself was thrown in a ditch. The true genius of Trump was not his social media acumen or ability to communicate. It was in seeing the crown of America in the ditch and the throne vacant.

And then after being denied both in his first term putting his life, property and sacred honor on the line for them.

Trump IS enthroned, and the Crown of America is his. Deny it all you want. They are both his by right by simple virtue of him being the first man in a generation to recognize they exist. And how amazing it is to see the entire liberal ideological framework collapse before the enthroned king.
I understand your point. I really do. America doesn't have that though and never will. America has presidents. At times when required they act like kings. At other times they merely occupy the seat. The position is rather flexible in that sense, that it has tremendous power, but it takes someone with vision to truly realize it.

A king, a monarch, whatever, cannot give you what you want. The US has its system for a reason. We broke our shackles long ago. Because while the people are retarded, they are also smarter than any one man when it is make or break. That is how Trump became the second non consecutive president, and it will probably stay that way well after i'm dead and buried that we'll have a repeat. A king means you have no faith in your fellow man to do the right thing when the time is right. I believe in America. And that is why Trump came the fuck back.

Do nations have crowns? Sure. Not all are worn by kings.
 
If bongino wants to save his brand, he should quit his deputy role
The only way he comes back at all in ANY capacity is to walk away from the role, slide right back into his podcast, and tell his rabid libertarian 20's something fans who are burning his merch right now how fucked the federal government really is now that he's seen it from the inside. It'll be a bitch move, because he claimed he could handily fix things if given the chance, but at least he'll have some plausible excuse of walking away and not wanting to be involved in an unfixable machine.
 
SHOULD it be? No. But unfortunately, people are understandably angry as this was a major point of his campaign. Trump and people like Bongino made SUCH A FUCKING PRODUCTION about accusing the Biden admin of hiding things, and used uncovering all of Biden's malfeasance as a major campaign point. Hell, half this board was rabid about Biden hiding the Epstein files and accused Biden himself of fucking kids on the island almost non stop. So many people were absolutely convinced that a second Trump admin would FINALLY see the files released, and Biden and Co in handcuffs because of it.

So much so, that to suggest otherwise in late 2024 or early 2025 around here was seen as liberal copium and earned you no shortage of solicitations to kill yourself. Those folks now are pretending this isn't a big deal because god forbid they admit they've brought home the "Fell for it" award, but people really are feeling betrayed as the Epstine files were a major source of anger to begin with.
The craziest thing about Epstein is just how much of what people "know" about Epstein and the actual evidence we have about what he was up to, from the court cases, is nothing more than speculation. What we know, from the trials, is that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked about 150 underage teenage girls and the only person that was confirmed to have had sex with them was Epstein himself. The only one of the girls that alleged third-party trafficking was Virginia Giuffre and she's unreliable, having changed her story before, remember when she accused Dersh of having fucked her and then retracted that once he threatened legal action by claiming she was mistaken? That's it. That he belonged to intel? Third-party hearsay. All the tapes? He had an extensive porn collection that includes underaged girls I would assume, we don't know it's even blackmail because Bondi didn't leak that. The vast majority of what people "know" about Epstein is pure speculation, but you've got a lot of influencers who stand to lose out, which is a problem on the Right. A lot of our influencers only know how to lose and profit off that, winning ruins their business model.

As for why Trump went all in? He probably bought into the speculation too, then they found out the FBI doesn't have the evidence they thought was there, either because it doesn't exist or because it was destroyed. Which they effective said, but Epstein is basically a peasant belief/mythos at this point so no one who has bought into that is going to be happy if Epstein is anything but an evil genius blackmailer who ran an international pedophile network that trafficked tens of thousands of children. Meanwhile, Pizzagate, which actually looks like they're covering up drugs, kiddie fucking, or both, is almost completely memory holed.
 
SHOULD it be? No. But unfortunately, people are understandably angry as this was a major point of his campaign. Trump and people like Bongino made SUCH A FUCKING PRODUCTION about accusing the Biden admin of hiding things, and used uncovering all of Biden's malfeasance as a major campaign point. Hell, half this board was rabid about Biden hiding the Epstein files and accused Biden himself of fucking kids on the island almost non stop. So many people were absolutely convinced that a second Trump admin would FINALLY see the files released, and Biden and Co in handcuffs because of it.

So much so, that to suggest otherwise in late 2024 or early 2025 around here was seen as liberal copium and earned you no shortage of solicitations to kill yourself. Those folks now are pretending this isn't a big deal because god forbid they admit they've brought home the "Fell for it" award, but people really are feeling betrayed as the Epstine files were a major source of anger to begin with.
Not only has this completely ruined Trump, it has also killed any chance of populist ideas and agendas ever making it anywhere in politics ever again. As I said earlier, anyone trying to run a platform similar to Trump's in the future will now inevitably be rendered unelectable by association to Trump and the Epstein scandal.
 
Neoliberals infuriated that the Big Beautiful Bill pauses coercive funding of abortion for a year will be pleased to hear that the state of Washington has stepped forward to help keep the obscenely lucrative prenatal abattoir Planned Parenthood in the money:
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Ferguson squeaks that Washington taxpayers will “cover the gap.”

Meanwhile, the Evergreen State is facing a $10 billion shortfall. But the important thing is to kill unwanted babies; shitlibs like Ferguson can worry about how to pay for it later.

What does "coercive funding" mean? How are there still people pretending to care about non-white embryos
 
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