SJW Art and Extremes

[didelphigina]

As a last note, in case she hasn't yet started puberty or is in the beginning of it, her having a good support system to talk to about her feelings is crucial as it's how I was indoctrinated. I was told my discomfort was gender dysphoria and not normal feelings regarding your changing body, because I felt like I could only go to friends and not a trusted adult. I'm sure she already has this or understands but, in the chance that she doesn't, the most crucial thing you can offer is understanding and assurance that any negative feelings surrounding her body are normal.

It's that hard hitting note that really does make me feel bad for the teens and kids just barely starting out in life. Some of them are so enriched in the internet that they rely on complete strangers to help answer their very personal questions. The beyond mentally ill grasps at them and lovebombs them into believing things they never should believe.

It legit hurts sometimes having to hear kids as young as 14 years old treating their parents like Hitler reincarnated for not adhering to their pronouns, their fantasies, their broken understanding of gender and puberty after being told by the already convicted that it's all wrong. Trust the science! Trust the queers! Anyone who tries to question it? Call them bigots! Transphobes! Enbyphobes! We're your real family, we're the only ones who truly understand you.

Some of these kids don't even have the mental capacity to understand basic trigonometry yet but they can completely have the entire gender encyclopedia memorized like it's nothing.

I hate this so much man. I really do. Please, just go back to kids being caught sneaking into bars or wearing low quality emo outfits. I'll take those over them getting enriched in all this gender nonsense. I'll take those over them getting on puberty blockers or getting operated on any day. Please.

 

[Jacques1194]

I find it very off putting how steeped in gay shit all these kids games are. A cursory glance into the actual roblox game itself and it is full of pride accessories, every cat is a rainbow vomit blob. A lot of the front page of roblox itself is rainbows and lgbt hang outs. It makes me a bit nervous about the impact this will have on a lot of kids. I personally copped the beginning of the "tom boys are just lesbians/ftm and don't know it yet" when I was a teenager in the 2010s. That was shit enough to deal with when it was the rare tumblr fuckwit in class or on deviantart. I couldn't begin to imagine what it would do to a child if it is all they saw. I truly hope this fad is dead by the time I have children old enough to go to school.

It just goes to show how groomed a lot of these kids are. You can't convince me that it isn't because like I've stated a lot of times in this thread, go to any fandom and its full of teenagers who identify as some flavor of LGBTQ. Its to the point where I swear to you that I have yet to see one profile from a minor that doesn't claim to be some flavor of it. Hell, the only profile that I remember seeing was this kid admitting that he was a "cis hetero white boy", but is now claiming that he's been "questioning" his sexuality and removed it. Even if you want to argue that these kids are legitimate and are really gay or trans, why are "queer" kids more canonically online in spaces like these than their straight and non trans peers?

Alterhuman is described as the umbrella term for therians, otherkin, and anyone else who doesn't feel like a human and connects more to not being one.

Therian is someone who believes they were an animal in a past life and has longing to return to it. Otherpaw is a label to describe anyone who engages with behaviors related to their "past life", such as the "quadrobics", roleplaying as an animal, and wearing animal accessories such as ears, a tail, or a mask. Fictionkin is similar but with fictional characters, believing fictional realities to essentially have been/are real in a broader multiverse and that they were once part of one.

So are these people admitting that they now see "trans species" as legitimate? I thought that it was transphobic to equate it with transgenderism?

 

[Chromeo]

Also excuse my ignorance what is the green flag above the stereotypical Asian bunny character?

There were comments on Pinterest that said the green flag was some kind of dwarfism flag, because he's a dwarf rabbit. Someone also joked it was a minecraft grass flag lol

 

[scathefire]

I find it deeply depressing that's what happened to that quirky book series. I read the first few books when I was young, and the community at the time was very welcoming and goofy. Completely age appropriate, too. Everyone was between 8 - 14 who I met through DeviantArt and Roblox. Every joke was about Firestar not liking waffles, or how scourge was just the front man of My Chemical Romance in cat form. I grew out of it naturally when I turned 13, so I didn't realise that it went so far in the opposite direction.

I was hugely into those books as a kid as well, I must’ve read at least like 2 dozen of them. As a kid (around 12) I used the now-defunct official Warrior Cats message boards that were connected to the official website. It was quite strict given that it was a forum specifically for children, for instance they didn’t let you have a custom forum avatar, you could only choose from a set of avatars taken from Warrior Cats official artwork. It was also against the rules to even link to other websites, so none of that carrd nonsense like they do on this roblox server. My ultimate point here is to say that the old forum was an immense far cry from these contemporary WC communities as on the message boards you weren’t even allowed to talk about anything related to LGBT as it was designated as an “adult topic”. Can you imagine having a rule like that these days? The site owners would be relentlessly tarred and feathered and maligned until the cows came home.

So are these people admitting that they now see "trans species" as legitimate? I thought that it was transphobic to equate it with transgenderism?

Funnily enough I do remember people on tumblr saying that back when I used the site, i.e. that otherkin were offensive because they were trying to latch onto the supposed legitimacy of trans people. I have no idea to what degree trans activists still feel that way nowadays.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Funnily enough I do remember people on tumblr saying that back when I used the site, i.e. that otherkin were offensive because they were trying to latch onto the supposed legitimacy of trans people. I have no idea to what degree trans activists still feel that way nowadays.

I vaguely remember that. I more prominently remember people saying that otherkin were offensive to amputees, because a lot of these crazies insisted on having a form of phantom limb like “Ah, I can feel my astral antlers and snout” or “hate it when people sit on my astral tail!” One that sticks with me is one person getting heated because they once had to hold down a violently thrashing veteran screaming that his legs were burning, even though he’d lost them years ago, and was sick of these tumblr brats appropriating a serious condition for their delusions. Some things really never change.

 

[Elysian]

Why are the girl on the left’s eyes drawn so close together? She looks like she has holoproscencephaly, lmao

 

[didelphigina]

holoproscencephaly

Holy new word discovery, Batman.

edit: Do not look up the word on Google Images. Very NSFL.

 

[SWETHORT]

So are these people admitting that they now see "trans species" as legitimate? I thought that it was transphobic to equate it with transgenderism?

Trans species is legitimate to a lot of online queerios. Especially in artist spaces, no one really bats an eye if someone claims to be a therian, otherkin, whatever. You'll only get some concern if someone claims to either be a factkin (claiming they were once another person) or if they claim to be a problematic character. Though I can't speak on if they consider it transphobic in the present day to equate the two. I haven't seen a lot of negativity around it, but most people who are one are also the other and they don't tend to conflate it.

Outside of that, there are other trans-related identities that aren't gender. Trans age, trans abled, trans race, and so on... These are a lot more divisive and the greater community typically rejects them outside of specific cases (such as self-proclaimed DIDers). But there is a subgroup that sees these as valid and encourages them called "radqueers", who believe all identities, paraphilias, and so forth are valid and considered LGBT because they're not cisheteronormative or whatever. (Read more here (+ archive)) They claim that things like pedophilia are only bad if the pedophiles are anti-contact and don't diddle actual kids.

Spoiler: Radqueer Screencaps

Yes this was my excuse to finally talk about these fucking lunatics and pedophiles. This is why you don't ask questions you really don't want answers to.

 

[Chromeo]

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Why are the girl on the left’s eyes drawn so close together? She looks like she has holoproscencephaly, lmao

Their faces are drawn like OneyG cartoons wtf

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Had there not been that pride stuff, this would have been cute and charming in a ‘dA beginner artist enthusiastic over a fandom’ sort of way.

 

[scathefire]

Outside of that, there are other trans-related identities that aren't gender. Trans age, trans abled, trans race, and so on... These are a lot more divisive and the greater community typically rejects them outside of specific cases (such as self-proclaimed DIDers). But there is a subgroup that sees these as valid and encourages them called "radqueers", who believe all identities, paraphilias, and so forth are valid and considered LGBT because they're not cisheteronormative or whatever. (Read more here (+ archive)) They claim that things like pedophilia are only bad if the pedophiles are anti-contact and don't diddle actual kids.

While it’s definitely disturbing, I find this to be more intellectually honest than mainstream troonism. There’s no reason why transrace would be inherently false and offensive as opposed to transgender, for instance.


This, though… these are levels of libertinism that even the biggest, most obnoxious transactivists would recoil from. Not sure why exactly it’s called “xenosatanism”.

 

[SWETHORT]

While it’s definitely disturbing, I find this to be more intellectually honest than mainstream troonism. There’s no reason why transrace would be inherently false and offensive as opposed to transgender, for instance.

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This, though… these are levels of libertinism that even the biggest, most obnoxious transactivists would recoil from. Not sure why exactly it’s called “xenosatanism”.

Hm. I wish I didn't click on my "scathefire quoted your post" notification because I absolutely did not wish to know this existed. Absolutely horrifying.

 

[Biology Book]

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[Mr. Bobby Brown]

yeah thats pretty acurate to how im feeling

 

[TalkativeApteryx]

While it’s definitely disturbing, I find this to be more intellectually honest than mainstream troonism. There’s no reason why transrace would be inherently false and offensive as opposed to transgender, for instance.

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This, though… these are levels of libertinism that even the biggest, most obnoxious transactivists would recoil from. Not sure why exactly it’s called “xenosatanism”.

Sometimes, it feels like they are just making these things up for the fun of it and they were originally not to be taken seriously but those in the corporate and academic businessses need to keep their jobs so they take it seriously. Get rid of the sociology departments from academic spaces and get rid of all cultural sensitivity consultant companies and we might see a drastic decline on attention of these loons.

That list you gave about types of "trans" reminds me of the "minor attracted persons" movement for some reason.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Average person looking over the art on this thread:

 

[Jacques1194]

Trans species is legitimate to a lot of online queerios. Especially in artist spaces, no one really bats an eye if someone claims to be a therian, otherkin, whatever. You'll only get some concern if someone claims to either be a factkin (claiming they were once another person) or if they claim to be a problematic character. Though I can't speak on if they consider it transphobic in the present day to equate the two. I haven't seen a lot of negativity around it, but most people who are one are also the other and they don't tend to conflate it.

It seems like its only legitimate if the right person says it. I remember seeing a thread on Twitter where someone made the claim "If you accept transgenderism then what's next? Trans species?" and of course TRAs made the argument that its not the same and nobody takes it seriously. Meanwhile, go on Tumblr and you'll see what you said, queer kids adopting different fursonas, otherkins, and therians where they usually say they're a cat or dog. Hell, I'm remembering this kid that used to be this Discord I'm in who identified as a stargender and it made me want to look at the first Reddit post about it. This is old but here.



How does the trans community expect people to take them seriously when you have these kids that are literally claiming troll identities that people made to mock their community are also valid? At this point, I wouldn't even be shocked if the community actually adopted "attack helicopter" because someone in the community claims to identify with it, therefore its valid.

Sometimes, it feels like they are just making these things up for the fun of it and they were originally not to be taken seriously but those in the corporate and academic businessses need to keep their jobs so they take it seriously. Get rid of the sociology departments from academic spaces and get rid of all cultural sensitivity consultant companies and we might see a drastic decline on attention of these loons.

Its hard to know if these people are serious. I remember this one teenager entering this Discord I'm in and they claimed to be a "stargender" and dyslexic and as a result had this obsession with putting an * at the beginning of his sentences. The kid was clearly unstable because he would get angry and post this long rant about how sick he was of people asking him why he always put a * in front his sentences. He eventually left the server because he got tired of nobody taking his identity seriously.

 

[Mad Hunter]

Please, just go back to kids being caught sneaking into bars or wearing low quality emo outfits.

Unfortunately, emo aesthetics have now become quite a staple of those horrible communities. Those poor kids.

I know kids being more empathetic, open-minded, and accepting or tolerant is a good thing, but they're so young and have to be more aware of the nuances and these environments full of sexual creeps, mentally-unstable individual who spit their words with no filter, and angry, aggressive, downright murderous seethers aren't good places for them to learn to deal with these things in a healthy way. They're still developing. Parents should watch their kids and the things they consume. We cannot stop the MLP and Bluey creeps from making pornography of the cartoon characters, but we can keep children from stumbling upon them. We cannot 100% drag the SJWs out of their delusions for the children's sake, but we can indeed discuss their matters with children in a healthy manner.

on the message boards you weren’t even allowed to talk about anything related to LGBT as it was designated as an “adult topic”.

You know, this is a good rule, but it can be worded differently to avoid screaming faggots. Like "avoid politically-charged discussions pertaining to the real world" to avoid drama on all sides.

 

[Hefty Fine]

I come with more offerings. This time, however, I am going to include the bio/pronouns page with the art piece drawn. I do always wonder how these kids/retarded adults picture people using their made up pronouns in a legible sentence. "He likes cats, kit especially loves calicos. They see kitself as one in real life."

Spoiler: Gay cats

???

Spoiler: Unrelated, but at the bottom of the page.

This is a shirt the pronouns website is trying to sell.


"Testing by our staff confirms, with proper treatment, this design lasts over a year already without any signs of decay!" Yet the mental decay is palpable. Why is this dirty grown man wearing a dummy?? Definitely won't be beating any nonce allegations.

I know a lot of what is posted art-wise isn't as appalling as what is usually posted in this thread. However, I believe the context of it being children engrossed in, and drawing, the art makes it a lot more off-putting. Especially the fact that this was all facilitated by adults, some reporting their own ages as above 30.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

“Oh wow, this is some beautiful artwork-oh god fucking damn it.”

I discovered this through a very long comic involving illegal aliens befriending a space alien and running from ICE. The latest update has the space alien get shot in the head. Somehow I feel like this isn’t going to be a downer ending.