Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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Wonder if this will affect the trout population. But really though, sharty was already zeroing in on it in their thread.

What the FUCK are they doing man? I'd be a ton more afraid of these people than kiwis.
They are her fans. Her BIGGEST fans. Not even TVA rivals /vt/ on the parasocial simping scale. These people have no lives, no aspirations. Grab a popcorn bucket, you are about to witness an entire fucking fanbase meltdown once they realize their god is a human being.
 
(4cuck /vt/rooner having a melty over his oshi's dox)
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@00:47 Kirsche "I grew up knowing that loli was a body type it was like any woman in an anime that looked flat & short so having to adjust to loli being a litteral child in current year is a little strange to me to be completely honest" "loli is again, just that flat short women in anime theres nothing inherently wrong with her existing lolicon are the people that jerk off to that short fat (flat) woman"

@01:40 Chat "why do we let the haters make the definitions?" Kirsche "IDK man" Chat "these are common definitions in the anime space" Kirsche "I know"

@01:58 Kirsche "When I mention this to people in my chat that that is the definition I grew up with people who were like "Card Capture Sakura was like the loli queen" & it's like, that was a child. I never heard anyone call her a loli"

@02:30 Chat "He refuses to understand you both have a different definition at this point there's no more benefit of the doubt" Kirsche "I think the issue is that their side of anime racist has decided that anyone saying that loli is a bodytype is saying that to hide their podophilic whatever the fuck they have & I can't help that the way I grew up that that's the way I knew the word as defind wtf do you want me to do do you want me to make shit up do you want me to actually lie?"

@03:02 Kirsche talks about Azur Lane Azur Lane has loli characters as they are defined as a body type & they're perfectly fine, you can tell they aren't literally children. But then Azur Lane also has literal fucking children & if someone is jerking it to the literal fucking children ones that's fucking weird. That's fucking strange" "I make fun of jerking it to a children the same way I would make fun of the diaper furs that that throw their poopy diapers" "When I hear people say they're into something like toddler-con that's a whole nother level of brother wtf are you doing that's not even loli anymore that's just mental illness someone needs to check you into an asylum"

@04:14 Chat "you could not beat that information outta me" Kirsche "There's some people that just openly talk about toddler-con & somehow still get defended & I don't understand" [but it's just pixels Kirche, what are you afraid of a 7 letter word? :smug: ]

@04:32 Chat ""I swear officer she had double D cups so she's legal even though she was 14" the other side of the anti-loli coin"

@04:38 Chat jerks each other off over hating toddler-con [again, I thought it was all fiction? Just pixels right?]

@05:35 Chat "The whole argument tires me out Jersh is a retard though completely unwilling to explore any nuance" Kirsche talks about people speculating her audience would turn on her. [Closest I've seen that was with her stance being pro abortion in the case of rape & insest where the overwhelming majority was against her & said abortion is never okay for any reason. Really makes you think why the people who jerk off to kids don't want abortion for insest & rape to be legal]

@06:59 Kirsche talks about the prior articles about her

@01:05 Cheese segment [I did not clip the Italian restaurant she was talking about]

@03:47 Chat "loli are just petite lewd-able but literal children are hugging & protection max I'm glad the boats have a clear & obvious distinction" Kirsche "I'm glad they have a clear & obvious distinction but some of the literal children have outfits that I don't think should be on literal children"

@05:55 Chat "The lolis in AL are not "literal children" Kirsche. If you believe that, then please enlighten us as to the literal children those characters are based off of. Are they in the room with us right now?" Kirsche "Oh man are you gonna make me open Azur Lane to show you that it's fucked up if you jerk you're dick to these things? Are you really gonna make me do that? Are you gonna make me make you look like a fucking retard on stream right now?" "No, I'm not saying they literal children as in they're real life children which is why i said it's just fiction so i don't care what people do with it but if you're jerking your dick to something that looks like a toddler wearing kindergarten clothing I'm probably not gonna trust you around children."

@07:01 Chat "happen to be quite an expert in anime calcifications loli & lolicon are synonymies if you have a child in the pic, it's just child" Kirsche "I wouldn't say loli implies naturally lewd cause Rebecca from cyberpunk is a loli & no matter how much you fight against it just because you like it doesn't make it not a loli & Rebecca is not inherently sexual" continues talking about Rebecca
This is Rebecca
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"This isn't sexual btw & also you're a pedophile if you think it is & also also she's an adult so it's okay it I jerk off to it."

@start more loli talk from last vid

@00:16 Azur Lane gets brought up to point out the children in it

@01:27 Chat "America likes to use the blanket terms they're clear & obvious distinctions but they would over simplify & use the term to describe many things" Kirsche "Thats why it's like people would start changing the definition of lolicon from what I knew loli to be to it being literal children every time there's just no point in talking about it but I have to keep looping about it because Jersh keeps trying to paint me as some kinda weird loli lover & I've had a consistent opinion for God damn 6 years"

@02:14 Chat "the word comes from a book titled Lolita from before your birth" Kirsche "Yes but they also have lolita fashion in Japan like it's something else in Japan completely away from the book"

@02:28 Chat "remember chat all children are lolis, not all lolis are children" Kirsche "WHAT?"

@02:47 Chat "how short does a woman have to be to be a loli, lets set a standard" Kirsche "IDK typically it was you know it when you see it but now I guess you don't"

@03:09 Chat "height doesn't God damn factor" Kirsche "I mean"

@03:13 Chat "i always thought loli was a fashion style my ex use to go to cons in loli dresses & there's probably comments of me saying I was dating a loli" Kirsche "congratulations there are a whole host of people who would think you are a pedophile now"

@04:06 Chat "this sounds like a conflict of definitions from the old guard & younger anime community"

@04:46 Chat "Lolicon is a term referring to lolita complex & usually refers to lolita fashion western spergs immediately assume it refers to the novel Loita which is about a dude so obsessed with a 12 year old he dates her mom to groom her" Kirsche "I never read the book. I knew of it's existence but i never read it & I know Japan took on a different definition from the book in regards to anime"

@05:14 Chat "The maid in this anime is a complete lolicon absolutely no sexual attraction is involved the joke is around it looking inappropriate" Kirsche "I mean Azur Lane even makes that joke there's Arc Royale who's an aviation ship & she has a complex over the destroyers because they're like tiny & cute"

@05:43 Chat "I saw this on twitter "I changed the definition of this word but i want all the associations & emotional impact of the old definition to apply to my new definition"" Shows Twitter post

@07:02 Kirsche "& I don't know what definition of loli I'm working off of is it the original? Is it the subverted one? I have no idea all I know is that's the definition I always knew it as"

@07:28 Chat "Loli refers to the dolls hence lolis be small & doll like I believe" Kirsche "I don't know anything about dolls I know that a lot of people collect them"

@7:38 Chat "you can tell the difference between short flat women & literal child people who act like they can't have an agenda" Kirsche " That's a little weird"
Ends on her talking about her vacation
Sorry this took longer than I thought I was wiped out I crashed the second I got home. The site being down fucked things up but it is what is is.
 
Why are people going after this person? She seems pretty harmless
When you appeal to pedophiles by acting like a child you're reinforcing the pedophile tendency it's like pavlov for pedos the streamer acts childish you send money, and you reinforce the pedophile mind
 
I like how he includes himself as a victim of the dox. The retarded fish vtuber gets her address posted, gooners most affected because she won’t stream for a bit :story:
They are her fans. Her BIGGEST fans. Not even TVA rivals /vt/ on the parasocial simping scale. These people have no lives, no aspirations. Grab a popcorn bucket, you are about to witness an entire fucking fanbase meltdown once they realize their god is a human being.
It's crazy how narcissistic these people are around her. It's literally "waaaaaa I'm sad she got doxed because she might not stream. I wish she would stream so that I can be happy 😭"
Why are people going after this person? She seems pretty harmless
Compared to most people in this tread, sure. But she's done some pedo dog whistling to lolicons & her fanbase is absolute cancer so her dox getting dug up is kino chemo for this cancer that is Saba
 
An update on Samantha Dillon Howard / Gawr Gura / Sameko Saba.

I have obtained some documents through a FOIA request. It appears that our suspicions were correct and Gura did move to Florida with her parents:
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Some dumb fucking faggot is conducting gayops and sent a pizza last week:
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Also, if there was any doubt that Samantha Howard is Gawr Gura, there isn't anymore:
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Full reports:
heavy is the head that wears the crown. i am humbled by your skill. it's shocking that her phonebook has apparently existed for some time, but people have been restrained enough not to publicly document it too frequently. wonder if it was /vt/ or some adjacent community?

It's not the Caring Farms she has to fear, it's her own insane parasocial fans. If anyone is going to harass her irl it's going to be one of the mentally ill antisocial maladjusted pedophiles that are obsessed with her, send her thousands of dollars and delude themselves into thinking she actually cares about them. Being a woman who makes bank of parasocial relationships with men online is dangerous, even more so if you deliberately cater to the lowest scum of society (pedophilic basement dwellers).
they already did according to the records, before we even had the phonebook she was getting phone calls and texts and pizzas.
 
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It's crazy how narcissistic these people are around her. It's literally "waaaaaa I'm sad she got doxed because she might not stream. I wish she would stream so that I can be happy 😭"
It's all of them. 4chan, TVA, they all sound the bloody same. You know why they are worried about the information? It's not us. Our job is finished. They are worried about one of their own nutjobs doing something. Gura is real now. They are scared that some hyperfan is going to go ballistic. That will mean she won't stream and they can't worship at the altar.
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It is inherently selfish in the end. They don't care about her. They care about a idealized version of her. It's pathetic.
 
When you appeal to pedophiles by acting like a child you're reinforcing the pedophile tendency it's like pavlov for pedos the streamer acts childish you send money, and you reinforce the pedophile mind
Enabling and glorifying pedophillia is not harmless.
Encouraging them to seek therapy is the best thing a person can do for a non offender, not giving them cartoon kiddie porn.
Oh, I never got pedophile vibes from any of the clips I've seen of her, but all I've seen of her singing or playing games. Can you link me some of the clips that promotes pedophilia?
 
It's all of them. 4chan, TVA, they all sound the bloody same. You know why they are worried about the information? It's not us. Our job is finished. They are worried about one of their own nutjobs doing something. Gura is real now. They are scared that some hyperfan is going to go ballistic. That will mean she won't stream and they can't worship at the altar.
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It is inherently selfish in the end. They don't care about her. They care about a idealized version of her. It's pathetic.
Farms just took Keening & Sunder to The Heart in the end.
Oh, I never got pedophile vibes from any of the clips I've seen of her, but all I've seen of her singing or playing games. Can you link me some of the clips that promotes pedophilia?
Go back in the thread. It isn't that far in going backwards by highlights.
 
Saw the community thingie. Impressed with the result but something about it makes me a bit curious.

Now that you guys got Saba/Gura's phonebook and all that informations about her outside of her vtuber stuff, what you all gonna do with those info? Spread awareness about it? or just put it on some list or whatever? Just genuine curiosity, is all.
You have been here since 2022 and you still don't know shit about the site?
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"Just curious is all" is the ultimate cope from bonafide retards. Curiosity doesn't absolve you of being a retarded faggot.
 
Saw the community thingie. Impressed with the result but something about it makes me a bit curious.

Now that you guys got Saba/Gura's phonebook and all that informations about her outside of her vtuber stuff, what you all gonna do with those info? Spread awareness about it? or just put it on some list or whatever? Just genuine curiosity, is all.
When the dust settles, I doubt much else will happen. Just because Saba’s been identified doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things, sure it’ll stir up discourse around here, /vt/ and mayyybe Twitter, but we’ll all find something else to do eventually. It’s not like we’re actively harassing people (again, WE’RE NOT FOODIST NIGGERS)
 
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it's shocking that her phonebook has apparently existed for some time, but people have been restrained enough not to publicly document it too frequently. wonder if it was /vt/ or some adjacent community?
It's very much the case that particularly obsessed autist fans will have found out her info years back and sat quietly on it. When Shondo's phonebook was dropped here it was very clear that her more dedicated fans knew almost everything in there already, plus additional stuff that still only they know. In-the-know "deep lore" stuff about basically any semi-popular vtuber gets winked and nudged about on /vt/ regularly.

If I had to guess - for a particularly deranged fan - the appeal is that it gives them a "shared secret" with their oshi, which helps them convince themselves the relationship is more social than parasocial.
 
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