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Should be a wild four years.

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Then why doesn't he just release it, even if there is no evidence to implicate anyone (WHICH I SERIOUSLY DOUBT) and they basically say they overpromised and underdelivered. I just want for one time in my life for the government to be honest and show us what we asked for with our vote.
that's part of the issue, what if the thing you voted for isn't what you expect or want, in this case a nothingburger list people have overhyped as fuck?
the same list that somehow survived 6 years unscathed and 2 administrations which couldn't be more opposite?

what you gonna do if it gets released and it isn't what you like?
 
At this point the government is just asking for a the entire country collapsing into revolution and full blown civil war.

When people know that the Republicans are pedophiles (or at least act like clowns and are impossible to take seriously at an absolute minimum) and it is common knowledge that the Democrats are death knells against America, they will see that there is no choice other than mass communist revolution and civil war. You bet that Geneva and Soros will be pulling the strings on the separatists and rebels and UN peacekeepers, the CCP and the Russian Spetsnaz will be showing up on American soil whenever this happens.

(Do not forget the high odds that UN peacekeepers are child traffickers themselves by the way)

The rest of the world will suffer from the consequences.
 
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Seems pretty obvious that Epstein was working for the CIA (Maxwell is obviously Mossad, like her father was), because there's no way this sort of operation happens without US intel having their hand in it. At the very least, they'd have been watching Maxwell like a hawk due to her sister and father, and would've gotten involved on day one.

And that's why we can't release anything from the files. Since the CIA can't legally spy on US soil, all the blackmail material Epstein collected is inadmissible as evidence, so we can't really prosecute his clients. Not to mention the US probably doesn't want to admit to yet another illegal CIA operation carried out against US citizens, especially an operation that involved CIA and Mossad assets collecting underage girls to be raped.

Come to that, if I'm right, then if Trump releases anything, he'll just be opening the Federal Government to being sued by a bunch of pedos, who will get billions in taxpayer money in the inevitable settlements for defamation and entrapment. That's actually worse than just not releasing anything. Real rock and a hard place scenario.

Probably the only real way to use Epstein's files is to keep them secret, and serve as blackmail to pressure a few politicians to vote for a trade deal or whatever. At least until the day AI deepfakes make video blackmail useless.
 
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this is probably pretty close to the reasoning inside the DOJ tbh
by publishing names, they'd open themselves up to a barrage of defamation lawsuits from very wealthy and well connected people who would all say "i just hung out with the guy because we were doing business, i didn't know about his nasty shit" kind of like trump himself did
 
My name is Epstein I made the list
It wasn't easy putting the pedos together
And that's why we can't release anything from the files. Since the CIA can't legally spy on US soil, all the blackmail material Epstein collected is inadmissible as evidence, so we can't really prosecute his clients. Not to mention the US probably doesn't want to admit to yet another illegal CIA operation carried out against US citizens, especially an operation that involved CIA and Mossad assets collecting underage girls to be raped.
And that's not even getting into the intel on the foreigners involved with Epstein, or how/where it was obtained. [If a single SOG boot touched the ground, we're NEVER seeing the outcome of this. That's a line neither party would even consider crossing.]
 
Seriously. Can we move the fuck on? At least we've moved on from the porn ban derailing that was going on the last couple of days.
I'm starting to wonder if Trump is getting people riled up into an autistic rage intentionally just to annoy normies to the point that they stop caring about Epstein out of spite.
 
But you can’t call the failure to release the files a broken campaign promise.
I would consider it a forgiveable error but you're right to point it out. People I think are largely conflating the opinions of people surrounding Trump with the statements of Trump himself. Specifically JD Vance and Donald Trump Jr. were extremely vocal about releasing the files, whereas Trump himself was quite non-committal and insistent on reviewing them first, and overall gave off the air that it was a very low priority for him. Overall I can see why people projected that policy onto Trump, but I can also see the reason behind Trump's confusion and agitation. Really it's a perfect storm to create discord in the Trump camp.
 
I would consider it a forgiveable error but you're right to point it out. People I think are largely conflating the opinions of people surrounding Trump with the statements of Trump himself. Specifically JD Vance and Donald Trump Jr. were extremely vocal about releasing the files, whereas Trump himself was quite non-committal and insistent on reviewing them first, and overall gave off the air that it was a very low priority for him. Overall I can see why people projected that policy onto Trump, but I can also see the reason behind Trump's confusion and agitation. Really it's a perfect storm to create discord in the Trump camp.
It's the perfect nerve to tug at since it combines three things that drive a lot of Trump supporters up the wall: Pedophilia, Elitism, and Jews.
It's basically the perfect storm of ragebait in one package, so when it's not given the answer people want, they get three times as pissed off as usual.
 
In completely unrelated news, has anyone ever read the Trevanian spy-spoof novels from the 70's? The first one, "The Eiger Sanction" was made into a film, one of Clint Eastwoods' early director runs, and was pretty fun really. Not a terrible film either. Eastwood had to learn mountain-climbing for the film. I read it back in 2023 and only more recently got around to the sequel.

The second novel is called "The Loo Sanction", a bit more on-the-nose as a James Bond-parody. It involves the main character from the previous book, a CIA assassin and art-critic, who is blackmailed by a corrupt MI6-spinoff organization called The Loo (there's a whole backstory on how it got its nickname).

The plot is pretty simple. Tell me if you've heard this one:

A wealthy man named Max Strange runs a sexclub called The Cloisters that caters to the weirder tastes of the perverted rich and powerful. He is secretly making films of the sexual perversions of men high up in the government at the club, presumably to blackmail them. The Loo want the CIA assassin to recover a set of these films and kill Strange. The big twist is that The Loo doesn't intend on shutting down the operation, but just want Strange out of the way so they can take over The Cloisters and use the blackmail material to become self-sufficient budgetarily and control British government policy from then on.
 
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People are defending Epstein now
A tad late on this because of work these past few days, but I looked up who this guy is and he wrote this book:

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Which is basically a book on how to go to the Philippines and fuck the women there. Passport bro guide. Considering this post and how common pedophilia sex tourism is over there...

Book was written in 2015. The Philippines had an age of consent of 12 until 2022, which is when they decided to join the civilized world by raising it to 16.

I'll bet you guys my next three paychecks he's definitely fucked a 14-year-old or younger over there.
 
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