US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[IAmNotAlpharius]

Deportations may help Mexico lmao.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

No one said it's your problem

Then why are you bringing it up in this thread?

 

[Albrecht von Wallenstein]

Because the actions of the person you voted for will lead directly to his opponents winning.

I don’t even know how to respond to this. It’s so retarded that it deserves its own unique sticker.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

The Israelis and Druze are very closely tied. The Israelis also must act because any inaction would cause the Druze in Israel to riot.

It's the easiest to understand middle eastern ethnic relationship and somehow you default to bloodthirsty jooz. Brain rot

The funniest part of your Israeli gunt guarding is you aren’t even paid for it.

The fuck is a Druze anyway? I think they were on Babylon 5 as retarded aliens who traditionally bifurcated into two different teams to kill each other or something.

 

[StudMccool]

Israel is literally everything they projected onto the Germans in WW2. Absolute bloodthirsty christkiller bastards who don't understand the word "diplomacy" even if their nations future depended on it. Why is Israel even striking their new syrian puppet state to begin with?

honestly on a geoplotical level its very hard to understand

level 1 logic says Israel dosent want a stable prosperous Muslim nation on there border so they are literally doing this to destabilize the region for long term peace question mark

level 2 logic say Israel is for some reason thinking this will help stoke Kurdistan separatists as a Kurdish state by its very nature would take land from Iran, Turkey and Syria and I think maybe Lebanon idk but it weakens a bunch of muslin neighbors but creates a new muslin nation so once again question mark

level 3 logic is that they are literally willing to attack ANYONE in the region they think they can reasonably get away with in order to possibly provoke a wider conflict, get us involved and finally holy war the Muslims forever as the Talmud decrees once again question mark

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

The fuck is a Druze anyway? I think they were on Babylon 5 as retarded aliens who traditionally bifurcated into two different teams to kill each other or something.

They believe when they die, if they are not reincarnated as a Druze, they become Chinese

 

[BullfrogBill]

Lay off the pot, they would never admit they were wrong about the jab

I never thought I'd see the Democrats push for the Epstein files to be released either, and only pushing for it to be released specifically to defy Trump. After years, a decade almost, of the Democrats saying the Epstein shit was fake and gay, nothing going on here, it's just a right wing conspiracy theory. Now they believe the Epstein case is legit just to oppose Trump. I could easily see the Dems turning around on the vaccine issue as well, Trump's administration is still funding and pushing Moderna vaccines for some reason so they have plenty of ammunition to attack Trump for funding and approving a very dangerous company that's responsible for the deaths of thousands. It doesn't matter if the Dems also pushed Moderna and even wanted a mandate to only allow Moderna shots and ban J&J's safer alternative, as long as it's the opposite of what Trump's administration is doing it doesn't matter to them.

And anyone claiming they are going to be voting Democrat from now on because of all this is just as retarded and pathetic as the people defending Trump about the Epstein shit. This country is becoming a lost cause.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Because you are on of the spergs obfuscating it like it was children being trafficked to justify burning down the entire outsider political machine that is taking apart the entrenched bureaucracy that has been fucking us over for 50 years.

... so you're worried Trump was one of the rapists. Got it.

 

[likeacrackado]

I’m a conspiracy guy, and like to think I generally read the room temperature alright, but genuinely I ain’t got no idea what’s up with the Epstein situation.
To me it feels like there’s something big we just don’t know anything about, and if we just wait and see how this runs it’s course things could get pretty interesting.
But I don’t believe it’s a party thing, every other ring I know of has been acting beyond the lines of political parties. That’s kind of how high levels of power work, really, but this is weird either way so let’s see how it goes.

The simplest explanation is that Trunp is obsessed with being liked. His supporters(rightfully) chimping out over his admins handling of the pedo files is getting to him. As for why he won't release them:
1) The files contain too many important names and he's afraid of personal connections that would blow up his own status quo along with tptb.
2) People in the files are threatening Trump and his family. A boomer family member of mine thinks the Clintons could be behind this, but it could be any group of the many with Epstein connections. If you're fucking kids, murder/torture is not off the table
3) The files don't exist or were deleted at some point. Feds don't want to admit they lost highly sensitive data, it would be a major blunder and expose their facade of all knowingness.
4) The "list" doesn't exist and the flightlog is the closest thing to it. Releasing the remaining info would make people as suspicious as not doing so. Trump's inner circle don't want to admit they hyped up a nothingburger.

I haven't heard any other viable theory that isn't Q tard level wish casting.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Then why are you bringing it up in this thread?

Because nothing else was happening and it probably undermines Abraham accords. Unfortunately retards cannot tell the difference between "looks like Abraham accords won't go through" and "die for Israel".

The funniest part of your Israeli gunt guarding is you aren’t even paid for it.

Imagine having sincere beliefs smh

The fuck is a Druze anyway

Descendent of Jethro who follow an esoteric religion with a secret book

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Imagine having sincere beliefs smh

It’s KiwiFarms not model UN, no one will ever change their minds about anything serious like Hebrews and their wholesomeness/tricks.

 

[Chuckwagon]

Israel bombs Syria to protect the Druze minority from ethnic cleansing and you're crying about muh intervention over small skirmishes

Buck broken

Even taking the recent war crimes into account (which still aren't as bad as the coastal massacres of Alawites, much more hated by the Syrian Sunnis than the Druze whose allegiance wasn't 100% to Assad during the civil war) this spat isn't so much HTS trying to cleanse Suwayda of Druze as it is basically a Druze civil war, with one faction (Al-Hijri) being Israeli puppets and the other (Jarbou/Al-Hinnawi/Al-Balous) having bent the knee to Al-Sharaa. The latter have already reached agreements with Damascus & are helping fight against Al-Hijri's faction.

As for Al-Hijri, he's not even a Syrian Saad Haddad, he's the Druze equivalent to Antoine Lahad: a blatant & complete Israeli puppet with a fake & gay cause who's rapidly burning what credibility he still has left after the fall of Assad (who he supported) between his active calls for more Israeli intervention & his men literally raising the Israeli flag over the places they still control (not even the Druze flag too, just the Israeli one). If anything he's further endangering his own sect by claiming to represent them all even as he shills for Israel (much as Haddad & Lahad tarred Lebanon's Maronite Christians as a whole, even though the Christian Lebanese gov't disavowed & declared them traitors their actions made it easier for Hezbollah to claim the Lebanese Christians in general were traitorous Israeli collaborators, one of many things fucking them up to this day).

Before all this, the Venezuelan-born religious elder didn't do any serious fighting in the civil war and was/is involved with drug trafficking over the Jordanian border. He's not got the strength to build a Druze equivalent to the Free Lebanon State/Lahad's security belt administration up without a direct Israeli ground invasion of Daraa & Suwayda to help him (and an Israeli occupation after that to keep him afloat, as was the case with Lahad as well), hell even with the airstrikes he got chased out of his own house earlier today.

I would bet a dime that Netanyahu just wants a distraction from the collapse of his coalition back home thanks to the Haredim having another nigger moment over the possibility that they might get drafted like everyone else, doubt there's THAT much appetite among Israelis to go invade Syria more than they already have while they're still wrangling Gaza & actually killing Al-Sharaa will just get him replaced by an Islamist that won't even pretend to play nice with Israel and the West.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

He literally told everyone sperging about Epstein to fuck off and he doesn't want their suppprt anymore lol
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That golden pager must have started beeping "Shut it down" in morse code in the AMs and showing a countdown for this level of bizarre self sabotage.
I don't think this is a good incarnation of any sort of 4D underwater sumerian checkers to do even if there is a payoff after having a hard line string of Ws that almost made people forget about the Elon Musk K-hole tantrum spiral as the hairplugs started growing into his neurolink and the fat Ls of amnesty and even having the nerve to allow infinity indians on the table.

Such Ws including literally deporting so many spics in rapid succession that LA traffic can actually be driven in in 3-5 business day.

Unless there's some bizarre swerve with a pot of gold at the end of a very very big "Trust me bro" rainbow like pulling a rabbit season/duck season gambit to make dems go from not a peep and zero demands to practically pounding on the doors for pedo elite investigations then this comes across as a complete and utter PR pipe bomb that they lit the fuse on and just held in the air and let it go off in their own hand.

It's so far got everyone across the aisles in full "What the fuck is he doing" mode from normies to radical centrists to leftoids to mecha hitlers.

 

[StudMccool]

Trump comes out, taps mike to make sure its working

"The rich and powerful of our nation are all on the list as well as most of our best thinkers, the Jab did fuck people up awfully and we cant reverse it, we did JFK, MLK, and 9/11 and no men have never been to the moon. YOU ALL HAPPY, IS ANYONE HAPPY NOW? Enjoy going to work now assholes."

 

[Potatoherder]

Lay off the pot, they would never admit they were wrong about the jab

They already called it the 'trump shot' before the 2020 election and everyone refused to get it. They just need to say they were lied to like how Trump lied about the Epstein files.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

spat isn't so much HTS trying to cleanse Suwayda of Druze as it is basically a Druze civil war, with one faction (Al-Hijri) being Israeli puppets and the other (Jarbou/Al-Hinnawi/Al-Balous) having bent the knee to Al-Sharaa. The latter have already reached agreements with Damascus & are helping fight against Al-Hijri's faction.

It started because HTS tried to move into Druze territory and their extremist elements couldn't stop themselves from killing Druze. It's not Druze killing Druze

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

That golden pager must have started beeping "Shut it down" in morse code in the AMs and showing a countdown for this level of bizarre self sabotage.
I don't think this is a good incarnation of any sort of 4D underwater sumerian checkers to do even if there is a payoff after having a hard line string of Ws that almost made people forget about the Elon Musk K-hole tantrum spiral as the hairplugs started growing into his neurolink and the fat Ls of amnesty and even having the nerve to allow infinity indians on the table.

Such Ws including literally deporting so many spics in rapid succession that LA traffic can actually be driven in in 3-5 business day.

Unless there's some bizarre swerve with a pot of gold at the end of a very very big "Trust me bro" rainbow like pulling a rabbit season/duck season gambit to make dems go from not a peep and zero demands to practically pounding on the doors for pedo elite investigations then this comes across as a complete and utter PR pipe bomb that they lit the fuse on and just held in the air and let it go off in their own hand.

It's so far got everyone across the aisles in full "What the fuck is he doing" mode from normies to radical centrists to leftoids to mecha hitlers.

Speak English retard

 

[CruzMissile]

I agree that I think there's no way that trump himself is incriminated in the case and everyone trying to claim Trump is incriminated in the case are just discrediting anyone who demands that Trump be held accountable for lying to America. If the documents were destoryed and replaced with documents written by Barack Obama himself then why wouldn't Trump and Bondi just say that from the start?

Why try to shut down any talk about the Epstein case, something Trump's administration was very talkative about whether trump supporters want to admit it or not, it's a fact. Why didn't Pam Bondi hold a press briefing about it where she could have told us that the files are under suspicion of being tampered with? Instead they just told us to shut the fuck up about it without explaining why after they duped us with the first planned release, and only when we didn't shut up about it did they claim there was any tampering going on. This is such shit and I can't believe people are accepting this.

The simplest explanation could just be that they did not realize this until Bondi started to actually review the files.

Iirc the timeline basically went that Patel pushed it almost immediately to Bondi and that's where the release just kind of died. And Trump IS now saying they're tampered with so it's not like he's exactly saying "Just shut the fuck up about it". The only time it sounded like that was when reporters were bringing it up during the meeting for the flooding disaster, which is kind of a shitty time to press about it.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

I really do think your VASTLY overestimating the political support the left has going forward, Trump is fucking up and will likely cost his faction his mandate but your missing the forest for the tree, when Trump won in 2024 it wasent a "rebuke" of the hyper progressive movement, politically, it was a shattering.

This isent hyperbole on my part you go into there spaces and they are still talking with the same level of vitriol and small mindedness but its all internal, they dont seek to engage with ANYONE outside the very small ingroup because they truly felt so butthurt by all of America rejecting there seemingly perfect beliefs for seemingly the worst person ever, really think about that for a second, they thought they were on cloud 9, every one at there side wind at there backs and the were fighting for a righteous cause against like the embodiment of evil, once again this is all in THEIR heads. When the votes came in and it wasent even close and it was overwhelmingly against them on all levels it broke them on some level politically.

You talk to them and they sound like green party members in the 2000s full of talking points sure but just overall defeated, knowing that they are kinda just walking a treadmill at this point. IDK I could be totally wrong but you all know me as a died in the burger doomer at times at thats my honest take, I think Mr Packs, in his doom has overly attributed a dynamism and passion in the democrats that simply dosent exist.

Strange days when Stud's talking sense.

 

[Chuckwagon]

It started because HTS tried to move into Druze territory and their extremist elements couldn't stop themselves from killing Druze. It's not Druze killing Druze

No, this round of hostilities started because Bedouin bandits stole a Druze vegetable truck & beat the merchant driving it, leading to the Druze kidnapping & shooting Bedouins, leading to Bedouins shooting & kidnapping Druze, and then the HTS gov't got involved (and shot at by the Druze). Al-Hijri's just been seething since his last power play in May didn't work out and jumped at the chance to try again at turning Suwayda into his personal fiefdom, all the Druze leaders not named Hikmat al-Hijri have reached agreements with HTS/Al-Sharaa over the last two days to secure Suwayda under gov't control and it's literally just him & his faction that are still fighting (under not just Israeli air cover but, as I've posted, also the Israeli flag itself I might add).