The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Ferryman]

I know its not Linux, but does BSD get much love around here?

I've got a freebsd server I run a zfs NAS off of. I don't really do anything fancy or complicated with it. But anytime I ssh in to do some maintenance, I remember how much I like BSD, and that I should figure out a project I can do to have an excuse to play with it more.

I can't quite put my finger on what it is I like so much about it. They've got great documentation, and that's definitely part of it.

+1 for FreeBSD. Don't let the CoC or other drama discourage you, it is 99% performative. Open is great too but a bit too slow to use as a main OS.

 

[Betonhaus]

Has anyone tried installing Xlibre on Linux Mint? How difficult is it to do? And you'd need time shift to revert, right?

 

[analrapist]

Has anyone tried installing Xlibre on Linux Mint? How difficult is it to do? And you'd need time shift to revert, right?

If it's packaged appropriately, you ought to be able to revert it using apt. But I see no evidence of it being packaged yet.

https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/xserver/ Xorg Debian packaging sits in this repo. It shouldn't be far from working with Xlibre. When packaging is built appropriately, it should be as easy to install as dpkg -i *.deb.

 

[Betonhaus]

If it's packaged appropriately, you ought to be able to revert it using apt. But I see no evidence of it being packaged yet.

https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/xserver/ Xorg Debian packaging sits in this repo. It shouldn't be far from working with Xlibre. When packaging is built appropriately, it should be as easy to install as dpkg -i *.deb.

I mean like compiling from the source code directly from the GitHub source. Brave AI seems to think I just need to uninstall a couple packages (from a Wayland or TTY session) then compile it from source, and recompile the Nvidia drivers if needed.

 

[analrapist]

I mean like compiling from the source code directly from the GitHub source.

The problem with DIY Xorg builds is that they touch a LOT of places on your distro in distro-specific ways, which is why I default to expecting proper packaging. Generally, if you have the competence to DIY an Xorg install like this, you won't need others to tell you how.

 

[Betonhaus]

The problem with DIY Xorg builds is that they touch a LOT of places on your distro in distro-specific ways, which is why I default to expecting proper packaging. Generally, if you have the competence to DIY an Xorg install like this, you won't need others to tell you how.

$ wheel | jesus

 

[volatile puar]

If you care that much about using Xlibre as soon as possible, it will be easier to switch distros to something like Open Mandriva that already packages it, but I repeat that it's a better idea for you to wait until it's out of beta because there will be breakage and you will need to troubleshoot.

 

[Betonhaus]

If you care that much about using Xlibre as soon as possible, it will be easier to switch distros to something like Open Mandriva that already packages it, but I repeat that it's a better idea for you to wait until it's out of beta because there will be breakage and you will need to troubleshoot.

I was just planning to install it and see how well it works then roll back using timeshift. It would be a pain having to update it manually every time anyways

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

The last time I used a spreadsheet it was actually just Gnumeric and all I was doing with it was previewing the content of a GeoPandas GeoDataFrame. I'll bite; why does Calc suck?

The appearance is pretty dated, and nothing special to look at even by contemporary standards. It also has some small incompatibilities with Excel. Most of the major formulas (SUM, AVERAGE, et cetera.) work fine, but some of the ones people consider advanced have syntax differences or, worse, no equivalent at all. If you're just trying to do a home budget or something like that, it's fine. If you're trying to do anything heavier, you'll probably run into a problem at some point.

 

[Slav Power]

it's a better idea for you to wait

 

[Akerman]

There are other options to LibreOffice on Linux that people often don't talk about, there is OnlyOffice which has been mentioned before but also SoftMaker FreeOffice and WPS Office. (More)
I haven't used any of them personally though, since I don't do any office work,and prefer to markdown in other ways.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

The appearance is pretty dated, and nothing special to look at even by contemporary standards. It also has some small incompatibilities with Excel. Most of the major formulas (SUM, AVERAGE, et cetera.) work fine, but some of the ones people consider advanced have syntax differences or, worse, no equivalent at all. If you're just trying to do a home budget or something like that, it's fine. If you're trying to do anything heavier, you'll probably run into a problem at some point.

When I do anything heavier I just use pandas or Tidyverse packages

 

[Cuckoman]

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

Switched to SLS after getting tired of (and getting flamed by) Jolitz and his broken BSD shit.
What was it like? It was great. Never had to interact with Jolitz or his faggot friends any more.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I'd like for there to be an in-between of Debian and Arch, which has the stability and overall structure of the former but the relative freshness and availability of packages of the latter. Debian with a desktop environment is a very clean base without too many extra packages preinstalled where Mint has too many, but Arch has too little and you have to fuck around with it more to get it to that "just works" state. Plus, Arch is Arch, and Debian is Debian. Shame they actively defend a chomo but hey, at this point you might as well go full Ted K with how fucked software is nowadays.

Anyways, lsfg-vk got some official recognition from Lossless Scaling's dev in the recent patchnotes:
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Wouldn't that be fedora, or maybe opensuse?

 

[Telemeter]

I was just planning to install it and see how well it works then roll back using timeshift. It would be a pain having to update it manually every time anyways

Install it in a VM. QEMU is very easy to install these days (you can just ask Grok or Chatgpt how to install qemu and you only need to run like 4 cli lines) and then mess around with fresh VMs to your heart's content. You dont need hardware passthrough for this unless you also want to test the drivers, and that is still easier than potentially messing up your bare metal install.

 

[Telemeter]

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

First time using it was ages ago, it was actually Mandrake back in 2000 or so, but it was really just out of curiosity, then quickly went back to Windows, still used Linux from time to time but never as a main OS up until Windows 11 released and I realized it was nothing but indian code slop bullshit made exclusively so that the ux and scrum master hordes at MS can justify their jobs with a hefty helping of non-redeemable spyware.

So at that point the switch was just inevitable, Windows 10 was already such a downgrade from Windows 7 (best desktop environment ever created, better and more usable than any Linux DE or WM, better than anything Apple has ever done) I just couldn't stomach doing it again.

 

[analrapist]

I was thinking of reinstalling Debian and trying to do the Xlibre port work to Debian packaging, but I gave Artix's s6/MATE spin a try before that and brothers, I been sleepin' on MATE. But I'm gonna call it "mate", not some Spanish wannabe-coffee word.

So yeah, the Bicha BS means one more reason to leave Debian behind like GNOMEfags are trynna do to X. But Artix is the chud Linux you've been looking for, or close enough as makes no difference.

God willing, I plan to be off-grid starting some time this year, which means that easy electricity stops being a thing, and three hours of PC time to rebuild Chrome will cost gasoline soon. So I've been scouting binary distroes for that time. Artix was installed and running faster than the first apt update after installing Debian, and that was all running on my spinning rust drives under Qemu.

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

Redhat 5.2, sourced from a friend. A couple months later, there was a RedHat 6 installation party via a local Linux Users Group at a local mill's conference room one weekend. I was too young to make much of it at the time. Lasted only a short while, then I was back to Windows for gay-ming. Late 00s, I bought my first VPS. Was going to be Gentoo, but the VPS was too tiny for that to be reasonable. Tried Debian next. It stuck. I've had a DIY web presence on Linux since. Mid 10s, had a house fire. The insurance cleaners got my PC, so I was stuck with my laptop, which was a cheap netbook. Windows didn't run great. GNOME 3 was dog slow. But it ran great on the console. I'd been tinkering, but that was when I went full time and turned my back on Windows. Ended up causing conflict with my boss as we were a Windows office but I insisted on running Linux stuff.

 

[Nice Stick]

1337 Guide to Linux Distros 4 Noobs

- Do you want to tune and tinker with your computer like it's a race car? Arch

- Do you want to act like you're tuning your computer, but not do any of the work? EndeavourOS

- Are you a troon, bromy, or an ally? RedHat

- Do you want to use your computer instead of configuring it? Mint

 

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- Do you want to use your computer instead of configuring it? Mint Devuan

Fixed that for you

 

[Betonhaus]

Fixed that for you

You still have to fiddle a bit to get new GPUs and stuff designed for SystemD working