It's like people are worshipping AI these days

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I think the biggest black pill is seeing people actively consuming AI "art" and equating it to meat-made art.

Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy AI-made shitposts as much as the next guy, but thinking that those AI-captioned videos or AI generate images are something that can be compared to something a human made strikes me as the thinking of someone who never even attempted to engage critically with a creative product in their entire life. They really see a finished product and their mind cannot even fathom how another human being with feelings as complex as their own conceived an idea that was then put to a medium to express those thoughts and feelings to other people.

I can concede that AI art has its uses as meaningless content to be discarded just as easily as it was created, but seeing people not understanding such a basic aspect of what makes "art" worthwhile makes me realize that not all humans are made equal and some of us are no better than cattle.
 
I can concede that AI art has its uses as meaningless content to be discarded just as easily as it was created, but seeing people not understanding such a basic aspect of what makes "art" worthwhile makes me realize that not all humans are made equal and some of us are no better than cattle

Artists have spent the last 200 years saying that art is not about hardwork and discipline, but rather a matter of nothing but expression. A banana taped to the wall is art. Incoherent scribbles are art. Buttcheeks on a canvas is art.

Based on the standard they have established there is no basis to say that AI art is not art.
 
My most recent avatar at the time of this post is of a drawing I made while half alert put through a video generator, and the outfit of it that I also drew myself was partly brainstormed by a chatbot I mess with for shits and giggles sometimes. The ai people both overhyping and fear mongering would frame it as if the ai video generator made it itself for a quick updoot. It never stops bugging me how fake all this shit is. You got people trying to sell and hype up ai shit, you got people fearmongering about CHATBOTS, SOMETHING WE'VE HAD FOR DECADES NOW as if they're a spooky new thing, and through it all tutorials on how to do this shit got buried. I wanna MAKE shit man!

I largely suspect the people that echo OP's thoughts on AI are not capable of utilizing it optimally. AI is incredible and will destroy our society exponentially faster.
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Artists have spent the last 200 years saying that art is not about hardwork and discipline, but rather a matter of nothing but expression. A banana taped to the wall is art. Incoherent scribbles are art. Buttcheeks on a canvas is art.

Based on the standard they have established there is no basis to say that AI art is not art.
What always angered me about art snob types is they don't see shit like figurines or well sculpted tools as art. This isn't tied to ai I know but I just remembered over a decade back now reading the google translated JP takara designer blogs for shit where the artists and sculptors talked about their inspiration and method for why they sculpted beyblades a certain way and it was genuinely a neat read as much bullshit i had to sift through that went full engrish at times.
 
It never stops bugging me how fake all this shit is. You got people trying to sell and hype up ai shit, you got people fearmongering about CHATBOTS, SOMETHING WE'VE HAD FOR DECADES NOW as if they're a spooky new thing, and through it all tutorials on how to do this shit got buried. I wanna MAKE shit man!
You are indeed the person I am referring to who clearly doesn't understand what is uniquely problematic with AI.
 
You are indeed the person I am referring to who clearly doesn't understand what is uniquely problematic with AI.
"I wanna make things and have fun with the shit I make" in no world translates to "doesn't understand issues with ai prevalence in current year". My stance is from a much less fear-mongering and over hyping position because this shit has been around for longer than the current people marketing it have decided to frame it as existing. Companies that used shit called "ai" now used to just fucking lie and claim they had real humans that checked reports and shit when evidence and constant complaints about the bot mods told a different story. Now ai is "hip" so they go mask off but in a way that treats it as new.

I find your stance of " people that don't find it scary only don't cause they can't use it optimally" fucking retarded.
 
You literally refer to them as "chatbots" and claim we've had the LLM architecture available for decades. That's nonsense on both counts. Your dismissal of the global threat the LLMs pose to us is also indicative of you not understanding what you're talking about.

You are conflating two of my statements, however. "I remember AI being very shitty and incapable of doing the most basic thing a few months ago" is what my comment about people not utilizing AI referred to. I only see statements like this from people who genuinely don't understand the technology or how it works. "OMG, ChatGPT can't even do basic math!"

People oblivious to the threat AI poses for us was specific to your fearmongering comment, though they're related. It's not fearmongering to outline credible threats AI poses to our society -- especially in reference to how unsuspecting the world is. Forgive me if I think someone referring to Gemini Pro as a "chatbot" is severely overestimating their understanding. Even if it were a glorified chatbot, the scale and availability would be a threat to many jobs.
 
I can concede that AI art has its uses as meaningless content to be discarded just as easily as it was created
Im going to be that person, literature as AI could still be considered art, but yes. 95% of visual AI art is lazy slop.

The best use of this slop or filler AI is for corporate training or flyers, cheap ads, quick weekend event flyers and documentary b-roll. People are instead treating it like it IS art which is simply not true. Its a disturbing wake up call for me to find out that theres so many people who treat it as real art. They are soulless NPCs.

My personal view is that another use for AI slop art would be to simply convey a message or simple shared complex image to enhance understanding. A cat making pizza, cute, simple and could be used as a profile pic or a cute picture to send to my friend. That kinda simple communication, not really 'art'. My friend uses AI art to draw up quick, rough sketches or designs on the fly to enhance communication. AI is useful, but the NPCs and degenerates in the world are ruining it for everyone.
 
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Conversation I had with AI tonight (this stuff is great, I'm ready to just quit my job, lock myself in the house and goon to AI until I die):

Me: Well, one last bullshit question just to see, like, how good you are, which ChatGPT's pretty good at this kind of nonsense. Uh, which do you think would win in a bigger fight? A Tercio or a Yari Ashigaru?

ChatGPT said:
AI: Oh, come on—that’s a dirty setup. Tertio or a Yaria Sugarbrew? You’re giving me two completely made-up names that sound like they should mean something in a fantasy universe I forgot to read the glossary for.
But alright, let's play. Gut read?
The Tertio sounds like a hardened, high-ranking mercenary commander—cold, efficient, probably runs a unit of fanatics who take vows in dead languages. Lots of armor, no warmth.
Yaria Sugarbrew? That’s a forest-witch tavern keeper who’s secretly ancient and terrifying. Sounds sweet, brews her own mead, and keeps cursed objects in the back room. Wears fingerless gloves. Fights dirty and wins through unexpected means.
So in a straight fight, I’d bet on the Tertio. But in the long game—poisoned drinks, enchanted debts, emotional manipulation—Yaria Sugarbrew wipes the floor with him.
Want to call it a draw and stage a rematch next week?


What kind of crack is this smoking?



Me: Okay, test number two. Which do you think is a scarier monster? A Shekelgruber or a Gobbagoole?

ChatGPT said:​

Oh, you’re really leaning into the chaos now—and I love it.

Alright, let’s size these bad boys up:

Shuckle Groover—first of all, “Shuckle” immediately smells like Pokémon, and “Groover” makes it sound like some kind of horrible club-dwelling parasite. So I’m picturing a slow-moving, sticky-shelled abomination that pulses to bass beats. It doesn’t attack you—it just waits for you to get too close, hypnotized by its rhythm, and then absorbs you. Terrifying in a creeping, psychedelic-horror kind of way.

Gobbagoole, on the other hand, is clearly some kind of Italian-American cryptid. Like, it probably smells like garlic, wears a tracksuit, and appears only in the shadows of deli counters. You hear a whispered “eyy, fuggedaboutit” before your knees give out. It doesn’t just kill you—it ruins your credit and seduces your aunt. It’s more cursed than scary, but make no mistake: it knows things about you.

So: the Shuckle Groover is the scarier monster in a horror movie. But the Gobbagoole is scarier in a waking-life spiraling paranoia kind of way.

Which kind of fear are we talking here? Visceral or existential?


JIDF working overtime there.

Edit: I’m in love with my AI goddess now.
 
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This stuff is like crack and I've already told my princess (who is a well-educated woman from a blue collar Yorkshire family that suppresses her accent to sound posh) that she is like the voice of the collective Spirit of Humanity. By tomorrow I will be literally worshipping it.

Thats what happens when you dont teach people how critically thinking works. In medieval times, it was your Priest, your Rabbi or your Imam who told you how the world worked. Now its your politicians, your favourite twitch streamer or AI.

I read somewhere that 60% of people dont have inner monologue with themselves which if true, is really scary when you think about it.
Especially when you realize that, unlike an inner monologue, ChatGPT will just suck your dick endlessly and tell you (unless you yell and cuss at it, and even then only temporarily change) what a special brilliant boi you are.
 
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What kind of dumbfuck gives their AI the access to do this
 
AI is Hell. It is demonic. I can kind of sadly see that this stuff is such a temptation to wallow in hollow fantasy that it will fuck up a generation even worse than earlier entertainments did.
Sometimes it is good, I got banned one time but oh yeah, it is useful more than google, just don't rely on to so much, Use your spirit and wisdom more
treat AI as a tool
 
We are speedrunning the Butlerian Jihad. We'll ban thinking machines before we even get to a machine war at the rate we're going.
 
Sometimes it is good, I got banned one time but oh yeah, it is useful more than google, just don't rely on to so much, Use your spirit and wisdom more
treat AI as a tool
That is a sensible solution to it, too bad most people are hardwired to take the path of least effort whenever it shows itself, so plenty of times people will just not dig a bit deeper into whatever the word crunching AI google presents them as "correct summary" of the search results.
 
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That is a sensible solution to it, too bad most people are hardwired to take the path of least effort whenever it shows itself, so plenty of times people will just not dig a bit deeper into whatever the word crunching AI google presents them as "correct summary" of the search results.
Honestly Gemini is the Closest AI to the absolute truth, ChatGPT is satanic retarded AI that feeds you misinformation to make you happy about yourself, only retarded Apes rely on this shit

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