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As a public figure, don't you need to prove they know they were lying rather than just negligent? That's a high bar.
Yes, but (per Trump) he told WSJ that the card was fake. So if they went ahead with their story despite the denial, they may be liable. (counter point: who the fuck trusts a politician?) The defense there would hinge on how much fact checking and attempts to properly establish the legitimate origins of the card. If they had reasonable grounds to assume the card was legit, they're in the clear.
2000's WSJ I'd have no doubts they did their due diligence and this would be a complete waste of time.
Modern day WSJ its a toss up; I'd say its not quite even money some TDS cabal just hit publish anyway because #resist, but its closer to even money than it should be.

The 10 billion is absolutely insane, but I'm guessing Trump is billing the entire US govt response to this as part of the damage.

But here's how this really works:
(Deep breath) Orgs like the WSJ have lawsuit insurance. This covers them for trial and any verdicts. The counter to this is that the org has to do whatever the insurance company says or they are on their own: it doesn't matter how good the case is, if insurance says settle, you settle.
So very likely the play is Trump sues for 10 billion, but really just wants a page-1 retraction, so the WSJ's insurance provider - unless they think a judge will toss the case - will tell the WSJ "Print the fucking retraction you mongs".

Are they even that significant? Trump and Epstein are both powerful New York socialites, of course they move in similar circles and know each other. It would be like being a big actor and being at events or even working with Harvey Weinstein or being a big time musician and going to an event with Diddy. Association doesn't always equal guilt, and again Trump turning against Epstin in the early 2000s while other associates kept quite and stayed in contact with him makes me be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that his association didn't involve pedo island adventures.
Trump and Epstein also lived very close to each other in Florida. Close enough Epstein was reportedly banned from Mar a Largo before his 2008 arrest (and confirmed after).

While its fun to bring up, I don't think Bill got any pedostrange from Epstein either. But Bill did get money from him and per testimony Epstein used Clinton's star power on at least one occasion to get his hooks into some girls.
 
Are they even that significant? Trump and Epstein are both powerful New York socialites, of course they move in similar circles and know each other. It would be like being a big actor and being at events or even working with Harvey Weinstein or being a big time musician and going to an event with Diddy. Association doesn't always equal guilt, and again Trump turning against Epstin in the early 2000s while other associates kept quite and stayed in contact with him makes me be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that his association didn't involve pedo island adventures.
Close enough for innuendo. Trump dated one of Epstein's exs. He also bought Adnan Khashoggi's yacht, who was Epstein's primary client for money laundering. I personally don't think this is meaningful, but it could be made to seem so, with a little work.
 
This is called conspiracy theorists getting it right example 1423453546.

I called this many years ago, maybe on this site, that America would pave the way towards private security in the west, on the basis that the niggers and immigrants would cause such unlawfulness that private security would needed to be hired, just like south africa.

It's a way of monetising police and an extra way to screw you over. It will come to a point where (and bookmark this fucking post) in a few years, companies will offer private security for their employees like they offer dental and medical expenses.
 
Obamacare made private insurance worse.
Before the ACA, health insurance companies in the individual market could deny coverage, charge higher premiums, or impose waiting periods for individuals with pre-existing conditions.
Both of these things are true.

Health insurance used to have long wait times before coverage started, refuse to cover pre-existing conditions. Despite all this being the case pre-ACA, health insurance has somehow managed to get worse because Obamacare refused to open inter-state markets and practically killed any meaningful hope for a nation-wide market place. Giving insurance companies free reign to fuck over the consumer.

Additionally because more people have insurance (most of it shit) and billing changes due to the ACA, everyone now gets charged the "insurance rate" which is set sky-high to cover things like non-payment, under-payment, and the vig on having to float the cost until the company actually cuts them a check. You can negotiate this down but especially if you have routine issues this is really fucking annoying.


Obama has Presidential immunity. Trump set that SCOTUS precedent. His underlings though not so much.
Not exactly so.
Daily reminder that Obama exerted executive privilege to hide documents that would have shown that Eric Holder directed the ATF to allow obviously fraudulent (cartel related) gun purchases to go through the backround progress so that Eric Holder's DOJ could attempt to use these guns turning up in Mexican raids as a cudgel to allow Obama to enact gun control.
This was exposed before they could fully enact the plan by a USBP being shot by one of these guns.

It's a way of monetising police and an extra way to screw you over. It will come to a point where (and bookmark this fucking post) in a few years, companies will offer private security for their employees like they offer dental and medical expenses.
Also known as: Welcome to South Africa
 
Some interesting change in the BBB I found for tech workers from here:
Me and my bros in CS have been really hopeful that this will stop the bleeding that we've been experiencing, and hopefully give us a chance at survival in the face of being replaced by dishonest AI powered Jeets and Chinks.
 
Let’s open that box, shall we? Do you have the numbers on soldiers injured or killed specifically as a result of enemy action, or is your little diatribe above the usual libshit fantasies about the military basically being adult daycare with guns, third world edition?
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Pretty sure most of those folks were shot or IED’d and not injured falling off a chair at the Burger King in the green zone.
Those casualty numbers aren't particularly grievous. Roughly 5k dead over two decades of occupation and fighting. I'm pretty sure we lost more people to suicide after they came back than we did in Afghanistan which frankly is the far more damning statistic than anything else.
 
Let’s open that box, shall we? Do you have the numbers on soldiers injured or killed specifically as a result of enemy action, or is your little diatribe above the usual libshit fantasies about the military basically being adult daycare with guns, third world edition?
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Pretty sure most of those folks were shot or IED’d and not injured falling off a chair at the Burger King in the green zone.
2,000 deaths over a 20 year period is absolutely fucking nothing for a nation of 340 million. Idk what this slap fight was about, but the numbers you provided do not paint the picture of a "casualty heavy conflict".
 
Those casualty numbers aren't particularly grievous. Roughly 5k dead over two decades of occupation and fighting. I'm pretty sure we lost more people to suicide after they came back than we did in Afghanistan which frankly is the far more damning statistic than anything else.
Veteran suicides post 9/11 is over 30,000.
 
So very likely the play is Trump sues for 10 billion, but really just wants a page-1 retraction
He should go for the 10 billion. You don't get to accuse the sitting president of being part of an international pedo ring, and simply walk away with a retraction everyone knows you don't believe in. A lot of "people" deserve to get fired over this, and forced to work in some inner city McDonalds for their frankly criminal actions.
 
2,000 deaths over a 20 year period is absolutely fucking nothing for a nation of 340 million. Idk what this slap fight was about, but the numbers you provided do not paint the picture of a "casualty heavy conflict".
I’m not saying it was, although if you factor out rapid medical response and modern battlefield medicine it would likely have been far higher.
The point I was making was that VA assistance and military pensions should not depend on whether or not the conflict was ‘casualty heavy’. Which is why I thought it was a weird fucking point to bring up.
Those casualty numbers aren't particularly grievous. Roughly 5k dead over two decades of occupation and fighting
Please refer to the above, and note also that the VA doesn’t look after the dead, it looks after the poor fuckers who come home missing limbs or with 60% skin grafts or breathing through a hole in their neck and not just guys who ‘dropped a 25lb plate on their foot in the gym’.
 
Republicans: Let's cut NPR
Media: omg big bird, elmo, it's for the kids
Republicans: sowwy 😢😢😢

Trump: I'm gonna cut NPR
Media: omg big bird, elmo, it's for the kids
Trump: lol i don't care kysf

See how easy it is?
I mean the only thing that sucks is that my parents love the PBS cooking shows. but eh, we got youtube
 
Syria never had a unified identity and the Assad regime was a minority rule government that treated the majority population as second class citizens, just like Iraq but in reverse. Even without the massive jump in food prices resulting from the Global economic meltdown in 2008 that precipitated the Arab Spring, Syria wasn't particularly stable. There were repeated uprisings by both the Sunnis and the Kurds, and the only reason Assad even protected the minorities was because he needed to bolster support against the Sunni majority.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, uh, my opinion, man.
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So if they went ahead with their story despite the denial, they may be liable. (counter point: who the fuck trusts a politician?) The defense there would hinge on how much fact checking and attempts to properly establish the legitimate origins of the card. If they had reasonable grounds to assume the card was legit, they're in the clear.
The authenticity of the letter is irrelevant. The story is that this letter, real or not, is part of the DOJ's trove of evidence. That's newsworthy in itself and is literally all the WSJ has to say for the case to be quickly dismissed. I expect the Trump team know that but just filing the lawsuit was the point.
 
I remember seeing screen caps of that stuff on /x/ when I was 14. You don’t hate them enough. You may think you do, but you don’t.
i remember the comet pizza website got posted on something awful and people were struggling to come up with explanations for why a pizza shop and ping pong store had a secret apache server where they had password protected downloads of dozens of encrypted and obfuscated ~200mb zip files
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must uhh... must just be uh.... all of the promotional materials! yeah! it's an archive of their promotional materials!
 
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