Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

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For those interested in the Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife and Dr Beth (Teddy) Upton, you can follow the Tribunal Tweets here. https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6

There have been some “interesting “ takes on sex and gender in this. In the first part of the hearing (back in Feb) we heard Dr Upton saying he is indeed a biological female even though he was born a male (and this is coming from a doctor who previously practiced as a psychiatrist). In the first two days of part 2 of the hearing, we get told by Isla Bumba (chief advisor and Equality and Diversity lead to the NHS) that she can’t say for sure if she (as in herself) is female or male. Naomi Cunningham, who is the barrister representing Sandie Peggie, has been having a field day with these NHS witnesses.

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"CHICAGO (WLS) -- University of Chicago Medicine is now the latest Chicago hospital to suspend gender-affirming care for children. The hospital released a statement Friday, saying that it made the difficult decision in response to federal actions. The Trump administration has threatened funding cuts and legal action against organizations that provide such care for transgender youth. Three other Chicago health systems have taken the same step."

UChicago Medicine pausing gender-affirming care for child patients

"Rush University Medical Center is the latest Chicago-area hospital to halt its gender-affirming care for minors as the Trump administration threatens funding to institutions that offer it.

Rush “paused” its hormonal care for new patients under 18, according to spokesperson Tobin Klinger. The hospital hasn’t provided gender-affirming surgery for minors since 2023.

The hospital system will still provide all gender-affirming care to adults, Klinger said, and mental health services and social services are still available to minors. For patients seeking care not offered at Rush, the hospital will refer them elsewhere, Klinger said.

“Rush continues to be a strong advocate for the LGBTQ+ community,” Klinger said in the statement.

Minor patients already receiving gender-affirming care at Rush will be able to continue, according to Asher McMaher, executive director of Trans Up Front, an advocacy organization that advises Rush on trans healthcare.

McMaher said the hospital is doing what it can under mounting pressure from the federal government. The Rush program is small, they said, with fewer than 10 pediatric patients seeking gender-affirming care, and the hospital was already struggling to add new patients.

“This is an unprecedented time,” McMaher said.

Rush Medical Center halts gender-affirming care for new patients under 18
 
How the fuck did we even get to this point? Truthfully when you look at it, trans people just have a fetish; there are so many stories now of trans people who wanted to achieve a very specific look and when they got all the operations and HRT done, it rarely ends up being satisfactory to them. This is where the depression kicks in because they've now caused irreversible damage to their body and so they 41%.
Rush “paused” its hormonal care for new patients under 18, according to spokesperson Tobin Klinger. The hospital hasn’t provided gender-affirming surgery for minors since 2023.
Do you guys remember when troons said that gender affirming care for kids is simply just giving them girl related clothes and whatnot? These people were lying through their teeth the entire time when they advocated for this shit and hoped that nobody would look into what they're actually doing.
McMaher said the hospital is doing what it can under mounting pressure from the federal government. The Rush program is small, they said, with fewer than 10 pediatric patients seeking gender-affirming care, and the hospital was already struggling to add new patients.
"We've been actively trying to get mentally ill and or neglected kids to take our experimental treatment plans and we are unable get enough of them." is what they're basically saying.
 
“Muh twansphobia is the reason I can’t be deported…”

Now, their financé is ill and requires regular care. And back home, U.S. President Donald Trump is rapidly scaling back the rights of trans people, which could put Jenkel, who is non-binary, in the crosshairs.

Hyperbole much? Much like other Canadian reporting — puberty blockers are totally reversible… — no intent of critical thinking.

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“Muh twansphobia is the reason I can’t be deported…”



Hyperbole much? Much like other Canadian reporting — puberty blockers are totally reversible… — no intent of critical thinking.

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Isn't Canada having a problem with the amount of current immigrants they've taken in recent years? Allowing anyone to declare themselves non-binary to get around the legal process is shooting yourself in the foot.

It's also just so disingenuous to act as if the US is so bad when federal law has only changed for passports, sports, and medical transition for minors. Not sure how any of this effects a they/them from Minnesota.
 
“Muh twansphobia is the reason I can’t be deported…”



Hyperbole much? Much like other Canadian reporting — puberty blockers are totally reversible… — no intent of critical thinking.

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I support this judge's actions, because I don't want a single fucking looney troon more in this country and would be more than willing to pay more taxes to send 'em all to Canada (where they'll all just end up on MAID anyways)
 
Isn't Canada having a problem with the amount of current immigrants they've taken in recent years?

Yes.

Allowing anyone to declare themselves non-binary to get around the legal process is shooting yourself in the foot.

It’s an angle that’s often exploited. And as noted it plays well with liberal and ndp voters.

It's also just so disingenuous to act as if the US is so bad when federal law has only changed for passports, sports, and medical transition for minors. Not sure how any of this effects a they/them from Minnesota.

How dare you apply critical thinking? I thought the USA should have tranny concentration camps by now!

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Sandie Peggie is a total legend. She’s been cleared of gross misconduct, but is not relaxing. Not only hasn’t she dropped her action against her employer for sexual harassment, belief discrimination and victimisation, she is now going after her union which did not support her after she and other nurses were forced to share changing rooms with Ted Upton.

NHS nurse Sandie Peggie ‘taking legal action’ against union over trans row​

She was suspended after raising concerns about sharing a changing room with a transgender medic

Telegraph Reporters
19 July 2025 3:27pm BST

A nurse who complained about a transgender doctor using a female changing room has said she is taking legal action against her trade union.

Sandie Peggie was suspended from her job last year after she complained about having to share a changing room with Dr Beth Upton, a transgender medic.

Ms Peggie was later placed on special leave after a complaint of bullying and harassment by Dr Upton, but was cleared by an NHS Fife investigation last week.

The suspension led to an employment tribunal this year, at which Ms Peggie launched a claim against Dr Upton and NHS Fife, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation.

On Saturday, The Herald reported that Ms Peggie had taken legal action against the Royal College of Nursing (RCN), claiming it failed to support her after her suspension, which the union denies.

“The RCN’s failure to act like a trade union ought to has contributed to Sandie Peggie’s mistreatment,” Margaret Gribbon, Ms Peggie’s lawyer, said in a statement.

“They have repeatedly failed to exercise their industrial muscle to advocate for female members distressed because they are being deprived of genuine single-sex spaces to dress and undress at work.

“Had the RCN fulfilled the conventional role of a trade union, it is less likely that Sandie would have faced the ordeal of an 18-month disciplinary process and having to raise legal proceedings against Fife Health Board.”

The Herald reported that Ms Peggie would be taking action for unlawful discrimination. An RCN spokesman told it: “We have responded to the claim, and we deny all the allegations from Ms Peggie.”

The row centres on an encounter between Ms Peggie and Dr Upton on Dec 24, 2023. The nurse experienced a sudden and heavy period and feared that it had bled through to her scrubs.

She entered the female hospital changing room to find Dr Upton, and challenged the medic’s presence. Within hours, a bullying complaint was lodged by Dr Upton.

Ms Peggie was placed on special leave, and then suspended, after Dr Upton made the allegation of bullying and harassment and cited concerns about “patient care”.

‘Biological sex is immutable’​

In May last year, Ms Peggie submitted a formal claim to the employment tribunal against NHS Fife and Dr Upton for sexual harassment, belief discrimination and victimisation.

The nurse complained of being required to share a single-sex space with someone she believed to be male and being victimised for holding a gender-critical belief that biological sex is immutable.

It was not possible for the doctor to have held a gender recognition certificate in December 2023, meaning the medic was legally male. However, Dr Upton claimed during the first part of the tribunal, in February, to be “biologically female”.

It emerged on Wednesday this week, hours before the tribunal resumed, that Ms Peggie had been cleared of gross misconduct by an NHS Fife disciplinary hearing. However, the health board has so far ignored calls to stop contesting the tribunal.

In a statement, the health board previously said: “NHS Fife did not initiate the tribunal proceedings and is instead one of two ‘respondents’ being sued.

“NHS Fife cannot unilaterally stop proceedings – only the claimant can choose to withdraw the case. The claimant has said in a recent statement from her legal representatives that she is determined to continue with her legal claim, as she is entitled to do.”

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Sandie Peggie is a total legend. She’s been cleared of gross misconduct, but is not relaxing. Not only hasn’t she dropped her action against her employer for sexual harassment, belief discrimination and victimisation, she is now going after her union which did not support her after she and other nurses were forced to share changing rooms with Ted Upton.
Burn, tranny cock suckers, BURN! :story:
 
I shouldn't be enjoying the Sandie Peggie vs. NHS Fife case as much as I am. Very instructive that NHS Fife wanted it to happen behind closed doors, especially now we've heard how much consideration they actually give to the law. Absolute nonsense from trannies and their allies inside the court, absolute crickets outside of it. This is ultimately why they're going to lose everywhere. They're going to get tired of losing! :trump:

A nice piece [archive] by Wings Over Scotland on recent UK decisions in favour of sex realism. In summary:
  1. Supreme Court rules "woman" in the Equality Act refers to biological sex, with wide ranging implications
  2. High Court affirms freedom of speech after litigious troon ex-cop complained to the police over a Wings Over Scotland tweet referring to murdered transgender child Brianna Ghey as a boy
  3. Allison Bailey successfully sues a vet's practice which banned her for holding gender critical views
  4. High Court rules Northumbria Police's participation in a Pride march was unlawful, effectively banning uniformed officers from participating in Pride or rainbow/trans colours on police cars
  5. Labour overrules MPs who didn't want the new EHRC chair to be gender critical
Much as you'll often hear them say "trans people have always existed" (as if the first cavewoman trans widow wouldn't have bonked her crossdressing neanderthal husband over the head with a club when he started wearing fig leaves over his moobs) they have to argue that the law as it exists is in their favour because they know that any fresh campaign for sterilising children with no medical justification and men in women's spaces, disaggregated from issues like gay marriage, will be wildly unpopular.

Equally, any court ruling that goes their way is vindication (oh how they laughed when an Australian court said Helen Joyce wasn't an expert on transgender issues, shortly before it decided humans can change sex and lesbians aren't allowed to assemble without trannies) while any ruling against them is motivated by transphobic corruption.
 
Sandie Peggie is a total legend.
While I agree that she is indeed a legend for agreeing to continue to fight her corner, the real legends are the women behind the Sex Matters charity organisation, including Sandie Peggie’s barrister Naomi Cunningham, Chair of Trustees of Sex Matters. Naomi Cunningham is like a dog with a bone. I’m loving reading her cross examinations of these spineless NHS Fife employees.
 
"Your criticism is not legitimate." - john Walker Flynt
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This part in particular is such hyperbolic dishonesty. It is categorically false. Trump's EOs do not affect any of these things. Bostock is still the law of the land regarding these specific discrimination concerns and there are additional protections for gender dysphoria under the ADA. Get a real problem or shut up, dumbass.
 
Maybe you should ask him/her/them to remember to post the links from the tranny retard when they're relevant.

Them? This isn't BlueSky.
“Muh twansphobia is the reason I can’t be deported…”



Hyperbole much? Much like other Canadian reporting — puberty blockers are totally reversible… — no intent of critical thinking.

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Fucking activist judge and woke CBC reporters fucking up Canada.

From the article

Meanwhile, the political climate for transgender people in the U.S. has dramatically changed under Trump's second presidency.

The Republican president has issued a series of executive orders declaring the U.S. will only recognize "two sexes, male and female," halting gender-affirming care for minors, restricting transgender women and girls from participating in sports, and banning transgender people from serving in the military.


Which of those orders impact this weirdo?
 
Meanwhile, the political climate for transgender people in the U.S. has dramatically changed under Trump's second presidency.
Oh, this person is in a goddamn bubble. The political climate towards troons is not caused by Trump, in fact it's caused by the troons themselves, and it's exactly why Trump won in November! People have noticed troons are god awful human beings.
 
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