GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

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mongrelmuch said:
DCS VR rigs?
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I bought the 5090 because I was dead set on getting a GPU with more than 16gb of vram to play native 4k and mess around with AI locally. I ended up playing 15+ year old games on my 5000+ dollar rig instead of the new games because they fucking suck, and I figured out pretty quickly that I suck at prompting for AI generation and that it just can't really keep up to the major big corpo ai gens. I can't forgive Nvidia for only putting 16gb on the 5080, to force people to buy 2000+ dollar 5090's.

I'm pretty sure my 5090 also got very slightly melted by the 12vhpwr. There was a tiny sliver of extra melted plastic on the connector, but I couldn't see any damage on the cable itself.

I played around a bit with VR on the HP Reverb I got for 100 bucks. I was able to play at way above 4k resolution with no issues on games. Unfortunately my meat human body isn't built for VR and I get motion sickness in any game that doesn't use teleportation. I loved playing Alyx and HL2 vr
 
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Aborted Drink Combo said:
I wish there was more of a market for those Chinese boards with the laptop CPUs soldered in. I really like the Idea of buying a Minisforum BD790i X3D, but the price just isn't right.
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they kind of bundle everything together, chinks be chinks.
marvlouslie said:
I think I'm just going to get a 9060 and throw it into my machine. I've been looking at benchmarks regarding the PCIE 3.0 and 4.0 debate, and fuck if I can't tell the difference. Especially with some of the more older titles I play. I'm still playing games from the Xbox One and PS4 generation.
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certain speeds and age overall, if you want to build a upgradeable pc you go with 4.0 as 3.0 can be said to be reaching EOL but shit is too expensive for 5.0 for now.
it's like using a ddr3 ram, sure it can still run fine but at certain needs it will show it's age.
Fcret said:
Honestly, only the former is worth going with unless you're getting an insane discount on Intel.
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i mean you can always get a chinese xeon :smug:
 
Fcret said:
Honestly, only the former is worth going with unless you're getting an insane discount on Intel.
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never buy intel full price that's kind of how things have always shaken down. intel puts way more money into binning and they heavily segment their products. you rarely get more than what you pay for with intel, and you always get more than you pay for with AMD. but because they're so invested in corporate computing there's always way more intel stuff on the market and anything that isn't brand new is usually much cheaper

the price of xeons drops like a brick after a certain point too, i remember before zen shook everything up dual cpu x99 boards were popular because they were cheap. i have a juiced x299 system i bought early 2021 for cheaper than i could have bought a 5600x+mobo+ram for and im pretty sure its downright faster than what i could have got buying a new 5600x
 
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big pauper said:
i have a juiced x299 system i bought early 2021 for cheaper than i could have bought a 5600x+mobo+ram for and im pretty sure its downright faster than what i could have got buying a new 5600x
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X99's are going for around 75$-ish in here with 2x16GB of DDR4, also xeons good, it's why it has cultists to this day on third world countries for giving excellent game performance after being abused for years under the hands of chinks.
although amd is trying to wololo them into the red team but they did that massive fuck up which was 2400~3600G series being 100$ ish and with 5600+ costing well over 125$ "affordable gaming" from amd standpoint isn't a good idea since they haven't specified you need to run a APU with max memory mhz or else it will suffah.
been getting 3400G kits here for 90$ with 16GB of ram with 2666mhz and a discreet gpu (completely missing the fucking point of a APU), usually GTX 1650 4GB... lordy lordy, i'm starting to become like louis rossman when he sees some fucked up shit, the many F bombs included.
 
Bogan said:
My new crackpot theory is people with high-end systems have less fun playing games than people with low-end systems.
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kind of easy to guess that since most of the high end shit is expensive and you need a demanding job to get that much money, low end isn't that costly so it lets you have shitty jobs that won't suck your soul and monetize it to goldberg, if i were to buy a 5090 i would need to work well over the regular mon to fri between 07:30 to 17:30 or become a politician which is equally soul sucking, leaving me with little time to game.

plus i can always call in sick days too whereas a demanding job will skin you alive if you ever try that unless you have political ties shit but that is a whole can of worms and i only recommend it if you work some low level shit that don't deal with people much as the politik world is a grass plain full of venomous snakes.
 
i mean i buy and play new games. its just the new games are expensive to buy and/or have drm that makes it so i cant pirate them often. i dont have enough disposable income to just casually drop 60-80 bucks on a video game and the only one im willing to drop 80 for is gta 6 when that comes out because i have money for it squirreled away just for that game. and thats on console.
 

High-NA EUV is going to slash the reticle limit in half from 858mm^2 to 429mm^2. So you couldn't make a 5090-sized monolithic die on it and anything of that size will be forced to use chiplets.
 
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Bogan said:
My new crackpot theory is people with high-end systems have less fun playing games than people with low-end systems.
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It's because children are more capable of fun than adults. You just get more bitter and cynical as you get older. My i9-12900 + 6700 XT setup was reasonably high end (about $2K since I paid a premium for a SFF NUC), but I am old and full of hate and evil, so I don't enjoy it as much as I would have at 22.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
High-NA EUV is going to slash the reticle limit in half from 858mm^2 to 429mm^2. So you couldn't make a 5090-sized monolithic die on it and anything of that size will be forced to use chiplets.
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If any of you are interested in what the hell High-NA EUV means, I give you this article: https://www.imec-int.com/en/articles/high-na-euvl-next-major-step-lithography

You won't have any idea what High-NA EUV is once you're done but it does use a lot of big words.
 
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So my 1080ti is starting to give up the ghost I think.

Are there any upgrades out there worth the money? Just normal gaming on 1080p but I have been giving thought to upgrading monitors as well if I drop a bunch of money on a new gpu. It's fucking absurd that every single graphics card is selling at double the MSRP.
 
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