S.401 - Fair Access to Banking Act

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Yes, all of you, without exception, are stupid fucking niggers, either because you derail the thread with identity politics or engage with those that do.
BLACKEST RETARDED GORILLA NIGGERS.
To be fair what do you expect would happen if they didn't? That a scintillating 130+ IQ conversation from the greatest minds of KiwiFarms™ would pool together to hatch a scheme that would save the world from the pesky payment processors?

What exactly do you think is happening in the counterfactual where that isn't occurring? I imagine the digital equivalent of a tumbleweed as people read the first post, give it a sticker of their choice, and move on.
 
This is an insidiously designed course of events.

Fight the censorship and you're defending rape porn alongside fighting debanking.
Support the censorship of rape porn and you're supporting debanking.

Valve should have just taken it down on their own without payment processors pulling this shit, now we have The Bullshit Dichotomy™. Guess the money of tranny gooners was worth more.
Australia could just ban morally objectionable games from being purchasable in Australia, they already do this with some games. I know they recalled and banned Manhunt back in the day.

There's really no justification for using payment processors like a cudgel, it's extremely irresponsible because every time some activist successfully manages to browbeat payment processors into forcing a company's hand a new precedent is set and the slope leading to everyone being eligible for deplatforming/debanking gets that much more slippery.
 
are you trying to show awareness about financial censorship or just venting anger at women? whatever valid point you might have is buried under bitterness and hostility. no one is gonna take you seriously like that
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To be fair what do you expect would happen if they didn't? That a scintillating 130+ IQ conversation from the greatest minds of KiwiFarms™ would pool together to hatch a scheme that would save the world from the pesky payment processors?

What exactly do you think is happening in the counterfactual where that isn't occurring? I imagine the digital equivalent of a tumbleweed as people read the first post, give it a sticker of their choice, and move on.
We are all autistic retards in the end
from reddit you came, and to reddit you shall return
 
Australia could just ban morally objectionable games from being purchasable in Australia, they already do this with some games. I know they recalled and banned Manhunt back in the day.

There's really no justification for using payment processors like a cudgel, it's extremely irresponsible because every time some activist successfully manages to browbeat payment processors into forcing a company's hand a new precedent is set and the slope leading to everyone being eligible for deplatforming/debanking gets that much more slippery.
That's a fair point, they have a history of censoring things locally and there's literally no reason they can't do this now other than they want to enforce rules upon territories that aren't their own.
 
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A lot of people are saying S.401 is useless because "they'll just ignore it", "it won’t be enforced", or "corporations do what they want anyway." But this kind of pessimism/fatalism completely misunderstands how the financial sector actually works.

Let me be crystal clear- Banks and payment processors cannot just ignore federal law even if the consequences would seem like less than a slap on the wrist.

They are some of the most tightly regulated entities in the U.S. economy if not outright. They don't fear fines because the dollar amount hurts, they fear them because each one is a red flag on their record, and that record affects everything from their ability to operate in certain states, their access to federal reserve services (like the Discount Window mentioned in the law), their credit rating and investor confidence, exposure to civil lawsuits and class actions, their compliance score with auditors and insurers and more.

The fine itself could be $10 or $10,000 - it doesn't matter. The existence of a law that makes this kind of financial censorship illegal is enough to force internal policy changes. This is because once it's law, any regulator or lawyer can escalate it. And if even one company gets hit hard, the rest will fall in line overnight. This isn't idealism, this is how regulated industries behave. They don't need a S.W.A.T team kicking in doors, they just need one pissed-off oversight committee or SEC filing and it's over.

If you think "nothing matters" because the system is rigged, congratulations because that's exactly the mindset the people in power want you to have. The moment the law changes, the entire equation changes. Corporations rely on a pretense of legality and compliance to justify what they do. When you strip that away, and they are exposed.

This is why it is so absolutely important no matter what side of any culture war or debate you are from be it degenerate porn or free speech absolutism to even outright fascism that, even if you have in good faith your senator is a useless fucking Soros-throating shitbag, you spam and hammer the fuck out of them about this issue. It matters not if it feels pointless, it's the message and precedent your attention sets and the pressure it places on others who see them and want to look better for future terms who might decide to agree with you to win the vote.

This bill makes it explicitly illegal for banks and payment processors to discriminate against lawful businesses based on "reputational harm" which is subjective, or ideology. Once that's in writing it becomes a sword anyone can pick up. Anyone, be it activists, lawmakers, lawyers, even competitors.

And while they do not fear the fine, they absolutely fear the record it would set and the target it would put on them from lawmakers if they ignored it.

That's not a nothingburger. That's a loaded gun.

Edit; While typing I forgot to include one point. Allow me to specify- Even the enforcement or lack thereof is pointless to even worry about because the fact that the law exists sends a chilling affect to this behavior which can not be ignored, for the moment even ONE person disagrees with the status quo who has the power to do something about it, they are cooked. It may not solve every issue, but the pressure and leeway it gives consumers and businesses against the economic rape Null has mentioned cannot be overstated.

It is leeway we don't just want, it is leeway we NEED to progress any further future action. This is the door. Open it or shut the fuck up.
 
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Australians try to push this national identity of being irreverent and salt-of-the-earth, laughing when people get mad or take things seriously, but then have the most fascist, censorious and effeminate government of all time. The UK gets the biggest ration of shit, but Australians are worse.
 
your bank should offer zelle, your clients bank should also offer zelle. its instant same day payment.
let me answer you as politely as is appropriate

NIGGER I USE A CREDIT UNION AND I WILL NOT SUCK THE BIG BANK COCK SIMPLY BECAUSE "OH WE FORMED A SPECIAL BIG BOY BANK CLUB THAT LETS YOU DO THINGS FAST SO LONG AS YOU SUCK OUR BIG BOY BANK COCKS"

SHIT LIKE THIS IS HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE
 
let me answer you as politely as is appropriate

NIGGER I USE A CREDIT UNION AND I WILL NOT SUCK THE BIG BANK COCK SIMPLY BECAUSE "OH WE FORMED A SPECIAL BIG BOY BANK CLUB THAT LETS YOU DO THINGS FAST SO LONG AS YOU SUCK OUR BIG BOY BANK COCKS"

SHIT LIKE THIS IS HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE
do you have a credit card from your cu? how long and arduous is the chargeback process? you do get what you pay for.
 
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If this is in response to that Ana Valens creature being censored then a meaningful fight against payment processors will find you with unsavoury allies.

I mean that's apparently the demographic that's being appealed to here while completely alienating a large demographic that was already on Null's side about this issue but will read the word "holes" to refer to women and click off because it's entirely unnecessary and obvious pandering to a certain demographic (sexless gooner gamers).
What makes you think you speak for all women?

I'm sure you mean well but making the 'many stand with the few' argument is being presumptuous about your own sex.
 
It's insane how all these companies had to do to avoid another PR nightmare and potential government intervention was act as common carriers. I understand and even agree with the logic of "they know the laws better than even the government so they're getting so far ahead of any potential problems that they're censoring things in advance Minority Report style". But what I think is often forgotten is people are generally okay with monopolies so long as the monopoly doesn't go out of its way to fuck their shit up. Steam is a good example of this. Steam is basically a monopoly but just about everybody likes Steam and GabeN because the service they offer is really good and they don't try to stomp out competition (because they don't need to).

I think they could have enjoyed their monopoly of raking in obscene cash with almost zero overhead by simply rolling with whatever paltry fines they may incur from behaving as a common carrier. There's no way whatever fine currently on the books would outweigh the additional income and darkening of the spotlight currently highlighting their absurdly outsized influence. Pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer do it all the time. If the profit is more than the regular business costs plus the penalty, it's worth doing. Ethics never enters the equation.

The only explanation for why things have shaken down the way they have is these companies do have an ideological lean to them and they are exercising it to push things the execs steering them want. It's like old posts around the Internet have mentioned about the ultra wealthy -- once you've got more money than you could ever possibly spend you are now playing a different game. A game most people daydream of being able to play. A game of "how can I use this pile of money to change the world to make it more to my liking". A game Elon demonstrated he was playing when he bought Twitter.
 
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Many of you are familiar with how the Kiwi Farms is unmonetizable,
That reminds me, not too long ago you were talking about setting up some kind of bank based check scanning system, forgive my inability to recall the exact terminology. How did that shake out?
If I were to write a post that's supposed to garner sympathy from as many people as possible I would somehow find the self control to not refer to men as "scrotes" in it.
Are your principles compromised by a lack of adequate flattery?
 
If this is in response to that Ana Valens creature being censored then a meaningful fight against payment processors will find you with unsavoury allies.


What makes you think you speak for all women?

I'm sure you mean well but making the 'many stand with the few' argument is being presumptuous about your own sex.
while the ladies at mumsnet are bongs, do you suppose that they would be interested in internet censorship via payment processors? how do you think they'd react to the holes sentiment?

a big tent issue needs big tent openess.
 
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