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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Are you joking? No one would confuse Boris Johnson for new money or Rupert Murdoch.

No one thinks New money are the type of people you can have a pint with. New money have been seen as a bunch of wankers and back stabbers since the yuppies stereotype. New money is yuppies or it's tech bros like Zuckerberg. Who wants to have a pint with American psycho or a man with the personality of a toaster? They're the people you do cocaine with, not drink pints. New money is mostly American or international classes, there's not a lot of it in the UK but it has a huge impact on us because we've forfeit out culture to the USA.

Boris isn't popular any more, he wasn't very well liked once he got into power. People like the bumbling school boy act he put on for interviews and Have I got news for you and he let that slide. Everyone I've spoke to about it thinks he's a tosser like all the other conservatives are. If they hold a stronger opinion it's that he played the fool for popularity and is a lying tosser who pretended to be retarded until it got him what he needed from it,
Literally go back in this thread. People did. Including the stuff about drinking a pint with Boris, which is why I said that. @FedPostalService was one of them.
 
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Literally go back in this thread. People did. Including the stuff about drinking a pint with Boris, which is why I said that. @FedPostalService was one of them.
They're either a troll or an idiot. I believe what you're saying but I wouldn't trust it was an honest opinion.

Prince Charles has the personality of a wet paper bag. He lived in the shadow of his mother his entire life and continues to be as dull and boring as possible. He's so boring he married a horse and decided to make it queen just so he would have something to pull out at dinner parties. "Look Mummy's friends. I married a horse. Aren't I wacky and crazy?"
 
They're either a troll or an idiot. I believe what you're saying but I wouldn't trust it was an honest opinion.

Prince Charles has the personality of a wet paper bag. He lived in the shadow of his mother his entire life and continues to be as dull and boring as possible. He's so boring he married a horse and decided to make it queen just so he would have something to pull out at dinner parties. "Look Mummy's friends. I married a horse. Aren't I wacky and crazy?"
Well he and several other people were very consistent about that opinion for the entire time I've been here + lurking before that and have only gone quiet about it after I got into a big slapfight with a poster who seems to have gone inactive.

Also IMO Camilla looks basically like the Queen so I think he's genuinely into her. Which she would, as they're all related.
 
What have that group done to be labeled a terrorist group? Have I missed them destroying stuff or is this an over reaction to the plane graffiti?
Publicly it seems like the plane graffiti (taking planes out of action) was the final straw. Privately it seems like a direct link to HAMAS and extremists has been found but they can't publicly say this because the investigation will collapse and everyone worth a damn will head to a non-extraditable country. Keeping the official reasons vague also ensures that Palestine Action feels brave enough to continue protesting, which would allow the police to pick key people off the streets.

There's been a few Palestine charities that have had their bank accounts suspended recently so it looks like a web has been uncovered which stops it from being something counter-terrorism police can't do about to something they can.

Saying that, that's probably giving the police far too much credit. It's possible they just banned the group so they wouldn't protest and the police would be freed up to beat up Big Baz when another migrant rapes a child to death in broad daylight. Then realised with horror that Palestine Action are going to keep going WHILE the hotel protests are going on, and now they have to arrest Palestine Action protesters because they're officially part of a proscribed group.
 
I wasn't sure if they were the warehouse invaders. I can see why they would be labeled a terrorist group now. The protest stuff isn't a big deal but they're messing with military supplies while waving a foreign flag so it makes sense.
The error is mostly on the government's side. That article I linked to happened last summer and this sort of action should have happened then.

As @Tom Nook's Gloryhole says there's been other stuff recently that means there might be more not yet admitted which might explain the escalation. At the time though the government likely took the attitude that with the summer riots they did not want more trouble so just settled for a firm tutting.

Now they're doing it for what a lot of rags keep insisting is just grafitti. Add to that they have seen a plummet in popularity, keep flirting with anti-migrant language in the hope of improving things and more and they can come across as authoritarians trying to crack down on harmless idiots in the hope of appealing to certain demographics.
 
I don't think he wants or foresees anything in the same way that Biden did in America. He looks and acts like he belongs in a care home not on a throne. The only thing he wants is a cure for dementia and a young boy penis blood transfusion. He's the most limp wristed faggot that we've had as a 'king' for a long time. There were children that were better kings than he is
The Fisher King is an old British Arthurian legend. It's a myth but like most myths has some kind of underlying truth it conveys. In the myth, the wound of the Fisher King is reflected in the land. As the king becomes impotent so the land grows barren. It's rooted in Welsh mythology in which the king and land are one.

And though I don't think a king being weak actually translates into trees dying and rivers running dry, who a country is represented by and who people have as their leader, affects the whole country on a profound level all the way down. Not just practically but morally and spiritually. And this country has Kier Starmer and Prince Charles (I wrote that accidentally but I'll leave it - King Charles just doesn't sound right after all those years waiting). It's not that I want to be ruled by Ghengis Khan, but someone with a bit of backbone and dignity would help.
 
They're either a troll or an idiot. I believe what you're saying but I wouldn't trust it was an honest opinion.

Prince Charles has the personality of a wet paper bag. He lived in the shadow of his mother his entire life and continues to be as dull and boring as possible. He's so boring he married a horse and decided to make it queen just so he would have something to pull out at dinner parties. "Look Mummy's friends. I married a horse. Aren't I wacky and crazy?"
Kek and he chose that horse over the baddest bitch ever
 
The error is mostly on the government's side. That article I linked to happened last summer and this sort of action should have happened then.

As @Tom Nook's Gloryhole says there's been other stuff recently that means there might be more not yet admitted which might explain the escalation. At the time though the government likely took the attitude that with the summer riots they did not want more trouble so just settled for a firm tutting.

Now they're doing it for what a lot of rags keep insisting is just grafitti. Add to that they have seen a plummet in popularity, keep flirting with anti-migrant language in the hope of improving things and more and they can come across as authoritarians trying to crack down on harmless idiots in the hope of appealing to certain demographics.
I'm so used to groups being labeled terrorists because they stand up for the native population and say things the establishment don't want to get traction.
 
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Bit of a rant post but might give you lads a bit to ponder over your lunch. Channeling my inner @Made In Wales ! Spoke to someone about the state of the country yesterday and had a good old chat with him. Some of you might find it a bit interesting or just a wall of text so ignore me. I've put the bigger bits in spoilers so anyone who doesn't give a shit about my ramblings can pass by.

What are you lads thinking about the migrant crime protests? You think it'll spread further? Current happenings in relation:

  • Locals in Epping are absolutely furious. Genuine grassroots efforts to get those places shut down.
  • Council leader of Epping has come out to demand the closure of the hotel.
  • Police allowed pro-migrant protesters to arrive at the scene and caused friction causing more violence.
  • Police are driving cars at groups of protesters (I think after the point when the EDL types showed up and it got a bit hairy) and just stoking the fire even more.
  • Riots have also sprung up in Norfolk at ANOTHER "incident" (you just know they use this word to calm shit down).
  • Top police in charge are giving statements which are effectively saying that we should stop talking about it because it's causing problems.
  • Police getting injured in the clashes, more prisoners being admitted into a clogged system.
  • Farage making a huge "law and order" speech promising a 50% reduction in crime within 5 years. Excellently timed, capitalising on the problem whilst offering some kind of solution.

That's the main hot issue currently, but there's so much more that's just starting to flicker and turn into a massive rubbish fire:

  • At least three to four of the country's major public services are striking. Junior doctors, nurses and I think barristers (again).
  • The Brummy allergy to collecting bins: just think what it's like to live in Birmingham (with all of its cultural diversity) and then on top of that, your bins aren't collected for months at a time, meaning you have to spend hours out of your week to sit in a queue at your local tip when you could be spending time with family.
  • Ofwat are now closing as water bills are slated to double. What will it be replaced with, public ownership of all water companies in the country?
  • Energy prices aren't going back down to their pre-2022 levels like promised, meaning people can't save during winter. Three/four years in since energy prices skyrocketed, meaning people just can't save.
  • Food prices rising, crushing peoples' weekly budgets.
  • Taxes and borrowing rising since the government don't seem to realise that gilt markets are king and aren't something you cry over when you're the person whose job it is to maintain and lower them.
  • Private landlord levels dropping. Not a bad thing usually as we should own our own homes, but an awful thing when there's barely any new homes being built in relation to population increase.
  • Major Labour cabinet members flirting with the ideas of hardcore socialist ideas like rent controls and wealth taxes (both of which have NEVER worked in their history)
  • Unemployment rising to unsustainable levels. Business interest drying up not just in terms of investment in London financial services but all over. Car manufacturers closing factories, British Steel in Scunthorpe on death's door.
  • Farmers are being held over a barrel, decimating local businesses and increasing our reliance on foreign imports. I was in Tesco the other day and saw Spanish blackberries. On the drive home, I see blackberries growing in a bush. What the fuck is going on there? British blackberries are delicious and we grow so much.
  • 15% of people in the UK at least are on antidepressants. Zombie nation as a massive proportion of those people have been taking them for five years or more.
  • NHS in dire straits. Ambulances taking 7 - 14 hours to arrive at an old lady's home after she's had a nasty fall.

We're one stabbing away from a repeat of last year with a guarantee of it being much worse this time. I did notice last year, unlike other riots, when you asked normies about it the response was mostly: "I can see why they're doing it, but the violence is bad.", which is progress. Those Just Stop Oil mongoloids turned the public against them after two years of protesting and being nuisances but their enemy was just something invisible in the air. Hard to convince when you're blocking ambulances carrying dying people with your selfish actions.

When these black'uns are assaulting and harassing young girls on the streets, there's something pure and righteous about standing up. Protecting the innocent and all that. Absolute tinderbox and it's getting to the point now where a grooming gang inquiry is just going to infuriate people more rather than calm down anything. It's not hard to see why the public has turned against the government so quickly, and each time they use that "Well the Tories left this mess so suck it up" line is starting to really lose its credibility a year on.

I've never felt this kind of fury in the country and I can't imagine what the next four years will be like. This can't be sustained, right?
 
I love how pissed even the media get when a Labour MP even mentions "we had..." I think one female caster even rolled her eyes, and this was on TV, not alternate media.

I think the Jews know it's high time on their antics, and people are cottoning on to it. There is a growing trend of lumping Jews with muzzies and jeets and this is good. It's wild that I would even trust Nigel because, guess what, he did not hide the fact he was a kyke and larped as one of us. He isn't and never will.

I will not be surprised if there was a happening over the summer.
 
I will not be surprised if there was a happening over the summer.
I think a happening is guaranteed at this point. Asking hundreds of thousands of melanin-challenged individuals to not rape or stab until winter is just impossible.

Give a mouse a bit of cheese and he'll ask for the whole wheel. If you came over on a boat illegally and got put up in a hotel that's nicer than your actual home, why wouldn't you try to take more?
 
A priest who worked with the poor and tried to help women escape
That priest (who in the show is depicted as an Irish Catholic oddly) is based on Father Joe Williamson, an Anglican priest who did made it his mission to save women from prostitution in London in the 50s. He wrote a really interesting biography.
Anyway, as you say, this shit has been going on since at least the 50s!
 
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Wikipedia threatens to limit UK access to website
Wikipedia could be forced to limit access in the UK unless crucial elements of Britain’s online safety rules are changed, the High Court has been told.

Lawyers for the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organisation which helps run the online encyclopaedia, warned it could be required to introduce a “quota-based” system for UK visitors if it is classified as a “category one” service under the Online Safety Act.

Services falling under this designation are subject to the strictest duties under the digital laws, which are intended to stop children accessing harmful online material and prevent the spread of illegal posts.

To stay outside the scope of the regulation, Wikipedia could cap visitor numbers from the UK so it does not qualify as a “category one” site, which are defined as those with seven million users. This would make it harder for British users to access the site when they wanted.

The foundation has launched a legal challenge against Peter Kyle, the Technology Secretary, over the rules, warning they threaten to hit Wikipedia with strict regulations intended for social media giants such as Facebook and TikTok.

In a filing with the High Court, Wikimedia’s lawyers said such a designation would “cripple the vital exchange of encyclopaedic information on Wikipedia”, either by limiting the “availability and functionality of Wikipedia in the UK” or by “fundamentally changing the way in which the encyclopaedia works”.

Rupert Paines, a lawyer acting for the group, told the court the rules risked “very severe impacts” for Wikipedia and could reduce articles to “gibberish”.
The measures could also “render it unavailable to many who wish to use it”, he added, even though Wikipedia is a “world away” from being a social network that the laws were intended to regulate.

Under the category, Wikipedia has claimed it could be required to verify the identities of its anonymous volunteer moderators who edit entries.

Non-verified users would no longer be able to alter posts, creating a risk that articles with fake news remain online unchecked.

It also claimed the rules could also force Wikipedia to restrict access to UK users, in order to prevent the website from falling foul of the toughest measures.

Alongside having more than seven million users, the “category one” threshold says sites must also have algorithms which recommend content and allow posts to be shared or forwarded to others.

The foundation argued Wikipedia would fall under these restrictions even though Ofcom, the digital regulator, had initially failed to identify it as within the scope of the rules.

While Wikipedia is not a social network, its lawyers said it still used recommendation algorithms, such as a system that identifies new articles for editing. They added it also had systems that allowed its users to share or forward pages.

In order to avoid the rules, Wikimedia’s lawyers told the court the site could be forced to withhold access in the UK to some visitors.
They wrote: “[Wikimedia] must weigh imposing a quota-based system for Wikipedia in the UK, depressing average monthly UK users below the Cat1 user number conditions.”

Such a decision would “deprive many of Wikipedia’s UK users of access to the encyclopaedia as and when they want it”, its lawyers wrote.

The Online Safety Act threatens technology companies that fail in their duties with fines of £18m or up to 10pc of their global turnover.

The Government has argued Wikipedia’s concerns are “hypothetical” and its potential inclusion under the regulations would be “appropriate” if it meets the thresholds.

Its inclusion under the rules is a matter for Ofcom, according to the Government’s lawyers, and has not been confirmed.

A spokesman for the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology declined to comment on ongoing legal proceedings.
They're doing that infuriating thing where they're self-policing even though they haven't been approached by Ofcom yet, just like Nexusmods. It's technically for a more "noble" cause but I doubt Wikipedia will follow through with their threat as the government just stares at them bemused because they understand less about the Online Safety Act than its detractors.
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BTW, Ofcom still haven't completed their "investigation" into 4chan.
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Imagine if nobody outside the UK complied, pre-emptively or even when approached.

Edit: Forgot to mention, "Category 1" websites are websites that get more than 7 million visits a month. Since Kiwifarms received a letter and not Wikipedia, and assuming Kiwifarms wasn't singled out for being Kiwifarms, that might mean Kiwifarms receives more visits from UK IPs than Wikipedia, which is funny to consider.
 
That video of the working class English lad in Epping calling the preachy Green councillor a stupid cunt warms my heart
what about our children who are getting raped, you stupid cunt!
Music to my ears
It’s like an illusion being broken in real time. You can tell the only time she’s read the word ‘working class’ is in a Marxist paper or sociology course. Interacting with the real working class and realising they’re not actually communists in waiting short circuits her brain.

Vile commies need to be called out like this more. You can’t have ‘respectful debates’ with these people because they might as well live on another planet. She got a glimpse of just how angry the average working class English people are.

Shitlib brain short-circuiting in real time
 
Won't the OSA make it illegal to even use a VPN?
Don't think it even mentions VPNs since...well, what can they actually do about it? Most VPN protocols these days disguise the traffic so ISPs won't even be able to determine what's VPN traffic and what isn't.

Banning VPN providers from accepting UK customers is way outside the scope of the OSA.

Tor has a built-in bridge mode which allows you to disguise your traffic as Microsoft Teams video calls.
 
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