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Why exactly do some of you act like US POLITICS GENERAL should be your Donboi Homo Hugbox??

"Other politicians" is right in the title too. What's so confusing? Debate, talk, calm your sugartits about people not sucking off your favorite edaddy gifter.
I dont get why you faggots call right wingers grifters. Are there some obviously, but holy shit we have literal verifiable evidence that people like Harry Sisson is on the actblue payroll. Doesnt get more grifty than to pay people to spread propaganda
 
Why exactly do some of you act like US POLITICS GENERAL should be your Donboi Homo Hugbox??

"Other politicians" is right in the title too. What's so confusing? Debate, talk, calm your sugartits about people not sucking off your favorite edaddy gifter.
You insufferable faggots got your own containment thread to shit it up all you want. You have to go back.

Except Fatpacks, we love you buddy. Speaking of which, has anyone seen Fatpacks lately? I'd have expected more posts from him.
 
And deal with an eternity of “muh russian collusion” and “fine people on both sides” bullshit? No thank you. You and I both know how the media and democrats will take any lie whatsoever and pretend it’s fact, no amount of disproving the fake stuff will ever be enough for these people
They’re going to do that anyways. But now it looks like Trump is hiding info that harms him. So not only are they going to lie, now there’s no way to prove they’re lying.

This whole mess is retarded. And even you guys must feel like idiots every time you have to pretend none of this matters and Obama is going to be arrested and tried for treason.

I just want some you to wake up and start listening to Trump with that same critical ear and clarity of thought that you have when Democrats are feeding you a load of horse shit.

You aren’t being unpatriotic by refusing to admit when Trump is fucking up. You’re holding him to his promises to actually MAGA.
 
I dont get why you faggots call right wingers grifters. Are there some obviously but holy shit we have literal verifiable evidence that people lile Harry Sisson is on the actblue payroll.

Really? Seriously? Donboi is as much a grifter conman as Cernovich, Vox Day, Fuentes... fuck, it's a whole network.

Tell the truth, did you buy the NFT and the crypto too?
 
Really? Seriously? Donboi is as much a grifter conman as Cernovich, Vox Day, Fuentes... fuck, it's a whole network.

Tell the truth, did you buy the NFT and the crypto too?
I didnt buy anything you retard, but you literally give people ad revenue who are quite literally ON A PAYROLL TO SPREAD PROPAGANDA. The only one buying shit is your boomer ass buying what retards tell you on tiktok. Turn off the app grandpa your grandkids wanna see you.
And before you chime in with something like "YOU DO THE SAME THING WATCHING FAUX NEWS" Or some other dumb shit like that, I literally dont watch a single streamer, content creator, or news outlet. Unlike you when i see something online i try to verify it and get the information first hand and if the information doesnt have something i can physically see with my own eyes (like for example the wording in a piece of legislation) then i know the area i got said info from is a piece of shit.
 
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Get in, faggot, we're going on a psychotic homicidal rampage.

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This is gonna sound real gay but I legit try to see the femininity and beauty in just about every woman. Even the less attractive ones. Not saying put them on a pedestal or anything but giving them a chance to be what God made them to be... wives, mothers, etc.

But these two are just so hideous in every way. Literally would not have sex no matter how much booze there was.
 
This is gonna sound real gay but I legit try to see the femininity and beauty in just about every woman. Even the less attractive ones. Not saying put them on a pedestal or anything but giving them a chance to be what God made them to be... wives, mothers, etc.

But these two are just so hideous in every way. Literally would not have sex no matter how much booze there was.
They both have very nice butts.

(Hillary doesn't anymore, but time is a thing.)
 
Why exactly do some of you act like US POLITICS GENERAL should be your Donboi Homo Hugbox??

"Other politicians" is right in the title too. What's so confusing? Debate, talk, calm your sugartits about people not sucking off your favorite edaddy gifter.
1) it’s a joke nigga, calm down.
2) are you really going to sit here and say shit like that post qualifies as “debate?” Come on man, it’s literally just sperging and getting MATI at Trump. Fuck, at least the Hulkster or fatpacks, our beloved, have something that can at least qualify as an argument with talking points and evidence, even if it’s by the loosest definition of the term.

I have no problem with dissenting opinions, but shit like that actually does belong in one of the other Trump threads, and should be laughed at, given stickers, and then promptly ignored, as is tradition.
 
This is gonna sound real gay but I legit try to see the femininity and beauty in just about every woman. Even the less attractive ones. Not saying put them on a pedestal or anything but giving them a chance to be what God made them to be... wives, mothers, etc.

But these two are just so hideous in every way. Literally would not have sex no matter how much booze there was.

I don't have anything against Chelsea particularly. She seems like a normal person in a very bad situation.

But Hillary's cooter has alligator teeth.
 
AI charlatans have been telling everyone that AI "thinks just like humans do," and people believe them, because the AI charlatans sound smart, and the people trying to explain why it isn't thinking are boring.
The truth isn't that AI is as smart as humans. It's that humans are as dumb as AI.
 
Would the right wing version of this be Evangelical Neocon Boomers who give all Jews a "pass" because of 1945? Even when the Bible they claim they read gives people a historical record of Jews messing up for thousands of years? I have had thoughts that these people worship Jews who hate Christians instead of Jesus - it strikes me almost as Stockholm Syndrome since I'm not sure if there's a better term for this phenomena; I've also wondered what would happen if some of them watched videos of Jews in Israel spitting on and assaulting Christians.
From what I've observed, when confronted with such, the Evangelical zioboomer crowd usually just brushes it off as 'just a few bad actors' (nevermind that no less than the Israeli security minister, Itamar Ben Gvir, has justified Jewish supremacist settlers like himself spitting on Christians & their churches as a proud tradition or the vehement anti-Christian motives publicly proclaimed by degenerate kikes with real toxic influence like Al Goldstein, who made no secret of his usage of pornography as a weapon to spite & corrode Christian civilization), ignores it or actually sides with the Jews against their 'fellow' Christians. First example that comes to mind was that time Ted Cruz tried to hijack an event about the suffering of Iraqi Christians to grandstand about 'Hamas bad' and why Middle Eastern Christians should side with Israel, and then left spitting with thinly disguised anger when he inevitably got booed by the Christians in attendance.

“If you will not stand with Israel and Jews, then I will not stand with you,” Cruz said. “Thank you and God bless you.”

Genuinely fucking comical for anyone who's actually studied Mideastern geopolitics to hear this Canuck taconigger spit those words out. (Some) Lebanese Christians stood with Israel & Jews once, and it backfired catastrophically for their entire community as Syria & Hezbollah buckbroke them after winning the civil war the Jews had intervened in while said Jews left them out to dry as part of a broader strategic pivot (cutting their losses in South Lebanon); the only reason there are still Christians in Lebanon today, and they're still a pale shadow of their former self whereas before they used to be Lebanon's dominant majority, is that not all of them stood with Israel, and thus avoided getting purged by the SAA & Hezbollah for being traitors to their country specifically & Arabs more generally. Other Mideastern Christians have suffered massively from the chaos unleashed by the wars pushed by (often Jewish and/or 'ex-'Trotskyist) neocons, most prominently in Iraq where they went from numbering about 1.5 million pre-2003 to only 150,000 after Bush's invasion (Syria was the fault of neolibs since Obama was in charge by then).

To be blunt, while they would gladly spend their dollars and even their children's lives for Israel, braindead American Evangelicals have done more damage to Christians in the Middle East than any Muslim tyrant since the Young Turks or possibly even Tamerlane. And yet they have consistently refused to change course even as all that they do ends the same way again & again.
 
Trump’s top federal prosecutor in L.A. struggles to secure indictments in protest cases
Los Angeles Times (archive.ph)
By James Queally and Brittny Mejia
2025-07-23 22:54:13GMT
To bystanders at the federal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles, it sounded as though U.S. Atty. Bill Essayli would not take no for an answer.

A prosecutor had the irate Trump administration appointee on speakerphone outside the grand jury room, and his screaming was audible, according to three law enforcement officials aware of the encounter who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The grand jury had just refused to indict someone accused of attacking federal law enforcement officers during protests against the recent immigration raids throughout Southern California, two of the federal officials said.

It was an exceedingly rare outcome after a type of hearing that routinely leads to federal charges being filed.

On the overheard call, according to the three officials, Essayli, 39, told a subordinate to disregard the federal government’s “Justice Manual,” which directs prosecutors to bring only cases they can win at trial. Essayli barked that prosecutors should press on and secure indictments as directed by U.S. Atty. Gen. Pam Bondi, according to the three officials.

Court records show the reason for Essayli’s frustration.

Although his office filed felony cases against at least 38 people for alleged misconduct that either took place during last month’s protests or near the sites of immigration raids, many have been dismissed or reduced to misdemeanor charges.

The three officials who spoke to The Times on condition of anonymity said prosecutors have struggled to get several protest-related cases past grand juries, which need only to find probable cause that a crime has been committed in order to move forward. That is a much lower bar than the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard required for a criminal conviction.

Five cases have been dismissed without prejudice — meaning they could be refiled — and records show nine have been filed as misdemeanors, which do not require a grand jury indictment to proceed. In some cases, prosecutors reduced charges against defendants to misdemeanors after repeatedly falling short at the grand jury stage, according to the three officials.

Essayli declined to be interviewed for this article. A statement provided by his office on Tuesday accused The Times of spreading “factual inaccuracies and anonymous gossip,” but offered no specifics or further comment in response to questions.

“The U.S. Attorney’s Office will continue working unapologetically to charge all those who assault our agents or impede our federal investigations,” the statement said.

Legal experts said Essayli’s low number of indictments raised concerns about the strength of the cases he is filing.

Carley Palmer, a former federal prosecutor in L.A. who is now a partner at Halpern May Ybarra Gelberg, said the grand jury’s repeated rejection of cases was “a strong indication that the priorities of the prosecutor’s office are out of sync with the priorities of the general community.”

Essayli has won indictments in some serious cases, including two where defendants are accused of throwing or planning to throw Molotov cocktails at L.A. law enforcement officers, and a case where defendants allegedly fired a paintball gun at federal police. But in total, he has secured only seven indictments, which usually need to be obtained no later than 21 days after the filing of a criminal complaint. Three other cases have been resolved via plea deal, records show.

High-ranking Justice Department officials have repeatedly praised his work.

“My friend, U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli, is a champion for law and order who has done superlative work to prosecute rioters for attacking and obstructing law enforcement in Los Angeles,” Bondi said in a statement to The Times.

But legal experts and some of Essayli’s prosecutors say he’s stretching legal limits to serve as President Trump’s attack dog in L.A.

“It’s just generally a culture of ‘if Bill asks you to jump, you ask how high,’” said one prosecutor who feared retaliation. “Any case he wants to charge, find a way to make it a yes.”

Questions about Essayli’s effectiveness come at a crucial time for the former California Assembly member. Bondi appointed him in early April, giving him 120 days to serve as interim U.S. attorney until receiving Senate approval. If he is not confirmed by then, a panel of federal judges will have the opportunity to appoint him — or someone else — to the position.

Democratic Sens. Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla of California raised concerns about Essayli’s leadership of the office in interviews with The Times, and a direct approval from the bench is no sure thing. This month, a federal judicial panel blocked Trump’s choice for U.S. attorney in upstate New York after the time limit for Senate confirmation had expired.

On Tuesday, another judicial panel declined to appoint New Jersey’s interim federal prosecutor, Alina Habba, one of Trump’s former personal lawyers. Bondi, however, decried the judges for going “rogue,” fired their choice for U.S. attorney and reappointed Habba. Legal experts say the move is unprecedented.

Meghan Blanco, a former federal prosecutor in L.A. who serves as defense counsel to one of the protesters who is facing charges, said the cases are faltering in part because of unreliable information provided by immigration agents claiming to be victims.

“Frankly, they’re not deserving of prosecution,” she said. “What is being alleged isn’t a federal crime, or it simply did not happen.”

Blanco represents Jose Mojica, who was accused of pushing a federal officer in Paramount on June 7.

According to an investigation summary of the incident reviewed by The Times, a U.S. Border Patrol officer claimed a man was screaming in his face that he was going to “shoot him,” then punched him. The officer said he and other agents started chasing the man, but were “stopped by two other males,” later identified as Mojica and Bryan Ramos-Brito.

Blanco said she obtained social media videos showing no such chase took place and presented them at Mojica’s first court appearance. The charges were soon dropped.

“The agent lied and said he was in hot pursuit of a person who punched him,” Blanco said. “The entirety of the affidavit is false.”

Felony charges against Ramos-Brito and two related defendants, Ashley and Joceline Rodriguez, were also dismissed, though prosecutors refiled misdemeanor cases against them.

Christian Camacho-Cerna, the man who allegedly punched an agent, has been indicted. He has pleaded not guilty, with trial set for next month.

Similar issues arose in the case of Andrea Velez, who was charged on June 25 with assaulting a federal officer. The criminal complaint alleged Velez, who is 4 feet 11 inches, stood in the path of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer with her arms extended, striking his head and chest when they collided.

Diane Bass, Velez’s attorney, said the incident occurred when masked, unidentified men in plainclothes pulled up to question a downtown L.A. street vendor.

Velez had just been dropped off for work when some of the masked men ran at her and one shoved her to the ground, Bass said. Velez, fearing she was being abducted, held up her work bag to shield herself.

Bass requested body-worn camera video and witness statements cited in the complaint. Soon after, she said, the prosecutor dismissed the case.

One of the three officials, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said concerns are growing among prosecutors about the accuracy of statements by federal immigration agents that serve as the basis for criminal charges.

“There are a lot of hotheaded [Customs and Border Protection] officers who are kind of arresting first and asking questions later. We’re finding there’s not probable cause to support it,” said the prosecutor, who requested anonymity over concerns of repercussions.

One case under close scrutiny is that of Adrian Martinez, a 20-year-old charged in a criminal complaint last month with conspiracy to impede a federal officer.

Martinez said he was on a break from his job at Walmart when he spotted immigration agents chasing down a custodial worker, and told them to leave the man alone.

Video shows Martinez being thrown to the ground and shoved into a truck, which he said took him to a parking structure.

Once there, Martinez said, he was told he’d been arrested for assaulting a federal officer by striking an agent in the face and breaking his glasses. Martinez, who weighs around 150 pounds, said the agents arresting him pointed to the colleague he was being accused of attacking, who looked “like a grizzly bear.”

“I don’t even remember you,” Martinez recalled saying. “It just seemed like they were trying to get me to say like, ‘yes, you assaulted him,’ but I knew I didn’t.”

The next day, Essayli posted a photo on X of Martinez, still in his blue Walmart vest. Martinez, he wrote, had been arrested “for an allegation of punching a border patrol agent in the face.”

The criminal complaint makes no reference to a punch and video taken at the scene does not clearly show Martinez striking anyone. Federal prosecutors instead charged Martinez with conspiracy to impede a federal officer, alleging he blocked federal law enforcement vehicles with his car and then later a trash can.

Ciaran McEvoy, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office, previously told The Times that complaints do not always include “the full scope of a defendant’s conduct, or the evidence that will be presented at trial.”

A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said the agency could not comment on cases under active litigation.

“Our officers are facing a surge in assaults and attacks against them as they put their lives on the line to enforce our nation’s laws,” the Homeland Security statement said.

Charges against nonviolent defendants have repeatedly raised alarm bells among current and former federal prosecutors. In early June, union leader David Huerta was charged with conspiracy to impede a federal officer for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement actions in the downtown L.A. garment district. Legal experts said Huerta’s conduct did not appear criminal.

“Where do you draw the line between an organized protest and a conspiracy to impede?” Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor and professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, asked last month. “It’ll actually be interesting to see if a grand jury indicts these cases.”

Huerta has denied all wrongdoing and his attorney did not respond to a request for comment. A deadline of Aug. 5 looms for prosecutors to secure an indictment.

Court filings show some prosecutors appear to be refusing to sign their names to contentious cases.

An indictment returned against Alejandro Orellana — who is accused of conspiracy and aiding in civil disorder for passing out gas masks at a protest scene in early June — was signed only by Essayli and his second-in-command, Jennifer Waier, records show. Such cases are typically handled by rank-and-file assistant U.S. attorneys.

In early May, when Essayli pushed to offer a lenient plea deal to L.A. County Sheriff’s Deputy Trevor Kirk months after a jury convicted him of assaulting a woman during a 2023 arrest, several prosecutors refused to sign the document asking for the deal, and some later resigned.
 
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