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That's the whole point of this endless Epstein stuff. It's a whole bunch of shouting so no one pays attention to anything else, it's why most of the people endlessly shitting their pants about it are impervious to logic, reason, pointing out evidence, etc. None of them actually give a shit, they're just trying to distract you. None of the niggerfaggots crying about Epstein were crying about it during Biden.

If they pull the "Hello, Fellow Conservatives!" thing, but only ever talk Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, just assume they're here to demoralize and treat them accordingly.
I mean the epstein stuff is just being used as political marketing for democrats otherwise they would have released it during bidens term. Look no further than an obama appointed judge blocking the release of court documents greenlit by trump.
 
During the Rogan interview he said it was because sending your political prisoners to prison sets a bad precedent. It may have just been cope, I don't know, but that's what he said previously.
That was TrumpSpeak. The real reason is that the only thing worse than not officially charging them would be officially charging them and then having them exonerated via acquittal. The only real option is a very public crucifixion with the receipts so here we are.
 
I mean the epstein stuff is just being used as political marketing for democrats otherwise they would have released it during bidens term. Look no further than an obama appointed judge blocking the release of court documents greenlit by trump.
Exactly, no matter what gets released, they'll just shift goalposts and continue to try and demoralize.
 
I mean, he's not wrong? It made Biden look more like a piece of shit than he already was when he did it to Trump.

But I feel like now trump has a justified go-ahead to do the same thing to everyone else that fucked him over.
Trump's a patriotic boomer (sucker). He fell for the designation of government criminals, who are mostly Democrats, as "his political opponents," not enemies of the people.

I can't run the Google ngram thing, but anyone who wants to check, I'd predict that "his political opponents" was an incredibly rare phrase in the news before 2016, and an increasingly common one ever since.
 
None of the people Trump has vocally proclaimed are guilty will over go to trial and likely not even be charged simply because the President of the United States proclaiming their guilt will prejudice any potential jury.

When Charles Manson was on trial Nixon made an off-hand comment that he thought Manson was guilty, which led to this headline the very next day:

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The Manson jury was sequestered so they wouldn't have seen that - until Charlie snuck a copy into the courtroom so he could show them.

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It almost worked. Manson's lawyer immediately called for a mistrial since the jury would be prejudiced by the President of the United States declaring his client guilty and there's a good chance the state wouldn't have been able to try him again for the same reason.
I am not sure how trying to intentionally sabotage the jury like that would work. If they are untainted, and you go out of your way to taint them as a defendant so they are biased against you, that's on you!
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... and that's why Presidents ever since have gone out of their way to avoid similar statements about criminal cases.
Didn't Biden do this shit with Derek Chauvin?
 
That's the whole point of this endless Epstein stuff. It's a whole bunch of shouting so no one pays attention to anything else, it's why most of the people endlessly shitting their pants about it are impervious to logic, reason, pointing out evidence, etc. None of them actually give a shit, they're just trying to distract you. None of the niggerfaggots crying about Epstein were crying about it during Biden.

If they pull the "Hello, Fellow Conservatives!" thing, but only ever talk Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, just assume they're here to demoralize and treat them accordingly.
I have to come out to everyone

I am Epstein
 
That was TrumpSpeak. The real reason is that the only thing worse than not officially charging them would be officially charging them and then having them exonerated via acquittal. The only real option is a very public crucifixion with the receipts so here we are.
It's literal key shaking to try and distract the people upset over the Epstein shit.
 
I mean the epstein stuff is just being used as political marketing for democrats otherwise they would have released it during bidens term. Look no further than an obama appointed judge blocking the release of court documents greenlit by trump.
Isn't Maxwell still appealing her case? Unsealing GJ testimony seems like it might cause an issue there..
 
That's the whole point of this endless Epstein stuff. It's a whole bunch of shouting so no one pays attention to anything else, it's why most of the people endlessly shitting their pants about it are impervious to logic, reason, pointing out evidence, etc. None of them actually give a shit, they're just trying to distract you. None of the niggerfaggots crying about Epstein were crying about it during Biden.

If they pull the "Hello, Fellow Conservatives!" thing, but only ever talk Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, just assume they're here to demoralize and treat them accordingly.
It's why I roll my eyes at the "muh Trump cult" faggots in this thread, they can't even give me a logical explanation of why Trump self-incriminated himself (or why his circle did, at least). I don't particularly like orange nigger, in fact I think he's bad for any serious political movement, but I don't think he's a pedophile at all. But since he was associated with Epstein at some point or another he's inevitably going to be smeared by association, list or no list.
 
I am not sure how trying to intentionally sabotage the jury like that would work. If they are untainted, and you go out of your way to taint them as a defendant so they are biased against you, that's on you!
Juries must be impartial and ONLY consider facts presented at trial. Any Obama/Clinton/etc trials would be the Manson trial circus x100 and a reasonable argument can be made that no impartial jury pool can possibly exist anywhere in the current climate. Jury nullification in any such cases due to Orange Man Bad would be catastrophic. Trial via public opinion is the best worst option.
 
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That's the whole point of this endless Epstein stuff. It's a whole bunch of shouting so no one pays attention to anything else, it's why most of the people endlessly shitting their pants about it are impervious to logic, reason, pointing out evidence, etc. None of them actually give a shit, they're just trying to distract you. None of the niggerfaggots crying about Epstein were crying about it during Biden.

If they pull the "Hello, Fellow Conservatives!" thing, but only ever talk Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, just assume they're here to demoralize and treat them accordingly.
Because this is what Trump had promised incessantly during the campaign. He and many of MAGA rightfully believe that the Democrats are involved with the Epstein case and it was surprisingly a Bi-Partisan issue. Fucking Leftists were also interested in the epstein files being released because they fucking hated the Clintons and the Democratic party just as much as Republicans do.

What does he do? completely deny the existence and obfuscate from the files.

We went from, "There are no Epstein files" to "The Epstein files are a democrat hoax" to "We will release it, I promise I swear" to "OMG STAHP TALKING ABOUT THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!1!!!!111". It's just endless lies and obfuscation to distract people who VOTED for trump from releasing the files.

The MAGA movement rightfully stated over and over that the Epstein Files must be released. Almost everyone agreed with that. It was something that MAGA can latch onto to get elected to finally get shit done. MAGA got the president, the house, and the senate now to release them. What does trump do? Nothing but lie and obfuscate.

This is the reason why no one will shut up about the epstein case. It was a promise that Trump had fucking broken when he was elected president.
 
It's why I roll my eyes at the "muh Trump cult" faggots in this thread, they can't even give me a logical explanation of why Trump self-incriminated himself (or why his circle did, at least). I don't particularly like orange nigger, in fact I think he's bad for any serious political movement, but I don't think he's a pedophile at all. But since he was associated with Epstein at some point or another he's inevitably going to be smeared by association, list or no list.
I think that's why he was always a bit more hesitant in interviews about Epstein. He's had lots of false accusations levelled at him, he's aware of how people with run with the "This guy is in the Epstein files," thing, even if the actual reason is completely unrelated to anything on the Island or whatever. Shit, just asking them questions about anything gets a massively negative response. If you get mad when I ask for some kind of proof or logical reasoning and never answer that question, why would that make me think you're right?
 
That's the whole point of this endless Epstein stuff. It's a whole bunch of shouting so no one pays attention to anything else, it's why most of the people endlessly shitting their pants about it are impervious to logic, reason, pointing out evidence, etc. None of them actually give a shit, they're just trying to distract you. None of the niggerfaggots crying about Epstein were crying about it during Biden.

If they pull the "Hello, Fellow Conservatives!" thing, but only ever talk Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, just assume they're here to demoralize and treat them accordingly.
Nigger, Biden didn't make a huge retarded show about releasing the list and have a bunch of gay faggots pose with an empty binder and then turn around and claim the list doesn't exist. The Trump admin's retarded decisions are what made this such a big deal.
 
Because this is what Trump had promised incessantly during the campaign.
I have brain damage from a work related incident. Can you please help me by providing every instance Trump himself passionately pledged to release the Epstein List and reveal the names of potential pedophiles? Thank you in advance!
 
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"ugh why are democrats making such a big deal about this epstein thing??? we don't care at all!"
fucking retards
I should've known the whole Epstein Files thing would've been a shitshow when Laura Loomer was the first "influencer" to upload that binder to the fucking Internet.
 
Nigger, Biden didn't make a huge retarded show about releasing the list and have a bunch of gay faggots pose with an empty binder and then turn around and claim the list doesn't exist. The Trump admin's retarded decisions are what made this such a big deal.
Why did a judge block the unsealing of a grand jury transcripts. I thought they cared about this (within the last month)
 
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