S.401 - Fair Access to Banking Act

No, those use peer to be peer networks through an automatic clearing house.

The issue is that the transfer cannot be instant. Both the sending bank and the receiving bank have to update their ledgers, and this isn't done until the end of a business day. Which is why ACH transfers take 1 to 3 business days.

When you pay with Visa, your money is actually not going to the merchant. Visa sees that you have the money and puts a transfer order on your account. Visa then gives the merchant its own money. It's only instant because Visa ponies up it's own cash. Not yours.

Its why you see "pending" all the time when you buy shit. Visa basically initiates an ACH transfer from your account to its account. But it still takes the same amount of time to settle. Usually 1 to 3 days.

Because your bank has to release the funds, the receiving bank has to accept the funds, and both banks ledgers have to be updated. What's funny is while your money is still pending being transferred your bank can still loan it out and charge interest. There is an incentive to make the process slow.

Visa serves a useful role in providing instant payment while not actually making it instant.
Bank transfers are one of the few things that are genuinely better in Mexico compared to the US because they're virtually immediate* hence my question. This system called SPEI was created by our central bank in 2004 so its supported by any bank operating here. SPEI isn't free but unlike card transactions, it costs a small fixed fee (~ $0.5) that you may not need to pay depending on the particular bank you use. I don't know much more, but I suppose Bank of Mexico plays the role of temporary creditor to enable the same latency much the same way payment processors do.

*Within working hours.
 
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Bank transfers are one of the few things that are genuinely better in Mexico compared to the US because they're virtually immediate* hence my question. This system called SPEI was created by our central bank in 2004 so its supported by any bank operating here. SPEI isn't free but unlike card transactions, it costs a small fixed fee (~ $0.5) that you may not need to pay depending on the particular bank you use.

*Within working hours.
Literally all banking shit is better in other countries then in America. There is no reason for our system to be soo bottlenecked and inefficient other then that it serves the interests of some powerful organizations.

The only reason an ACH transfer takes 1 to 3 days in the USA is because the banks are following 19th century regulations where the ledgers were LITERALLY UPDATED BY HAND, and the transfer orders were made by telegrams printed out at a Telegraph relay and hand carried to the clearing house. Which was at the time a real physical place staffed by bored clerks hand typing the orders into massive physical books.

The entire system functions in this manner TODAY.
 
Lowkey that might just be the most viable thing to do on a personal level. Of course not to the full amish-extent, but some sort of self-sustainability lifestyle should be more normalized.
Amish are totally okay with cash. That is not one of the modern things they avoid. Source: had a bud who would drive Amish around to do things like property transactions where they would exchange things like satchels full of Benjamins to buy land.

Even the Swartzentrubers, the most conservative of Old Order Amish, definitely do cash. They actually prefer it, even though they mostly reject, or at least avoid credit.
 
Become yourself a financial institution @Null.

You toyed with the idea before (I heard you talk in streams once or twice already) and make your own bank.

I would love for it to be an international operation because in Argentina they absolutely rape you with taxes, increments, exchange rates, etc. At the sole discretion of the financial institution you are a part of.

Do your own bank and I'll pledge.
 
Become yourself a financial institution @Null.

You toyed with the idea before (I heard you talk in streams once or twice already) and make your own bank.

I would love for it to be an international operation because in Argentina they absolutely rape you with taxes, increments, exchange rates, etc. At the sole discretion of the financial institution you are a part of.

Do your own bank and I'll pledge.
If null had 10% of the money needed to become his own bank he wouldn't need to become his own bank.
 
I read Glorious Leader's OP, and of course, am in agreement.
I can't read the 37 pages of replies, so apologies if my post is redundant.
Wait until you uncover how banks ---> insurance ---> public 'health' policy ---> criminal code
and onwards. Everything from IP law to cannabis legalization.
However, you cannot impose criminal fines for this behavior.
Anything less than mandatory prison sentences on the board members and executive staff only represents a small tax to their bottom line.

No fines for corporate crime.
 
Same thing as steam removing smut, all of the porn games have been removed from itch.io.
Even things you paid for are straight up gone, you cannot redownload it.
(I don't pay for porn but people made threads about it on /v/, and its not like /v/ to make shit up to complain about.)

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Same thing as steam removing smut, all of the porn games have been removed from itch.io.
Even things you paid for are straight up gone, you cannot redownload it.
(I don't pay for porn but people made threads about it on /v/, and its not like /v/ to make shit up to complain about.)

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If you PAID FOR IT its gone? Not even steam does that. This is getting to "they took away our purchases" tier jesus fucking christ
 
I had grok read the shit null wrote on the topic and had it spit out this form letter. without mention the farms, null, or the other political shit like dei, mass immigration, or child srs.



[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
[Email Address]
[Date]

The Honorable [Senator's Name]
[Senator's Address]
Washington, D.C. 20510

Dear Senator [Senator's Last Name],

I am writing to bring your attention to a pressing issue that undermines the foundation of our digital economy and the principles of free speech and fair competition. The immense power of payment networks—such as Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover—poses a significant threat to businesses and individuals who depend on these services to participate in the modern marketplace. These networks, along with their associated payment processors and gateways, have the unilateral ability to deny service to any entity they choose, often without transparent justification or meaningful recourse. This practice, known as "debanking," jeopardizes the livelihoods of countless businesses and restricts the free exchange of ideas that our society holds dear.

The Problem: Unchecked Power of Payment Networks​

Payment networks wield extraordinary influence over the digital economy. Without their approval, even the largest companies risk losing billions in revenue, while small businesses and startups face existential threats. A single decision to deny payment processing can shutter a business overnight. These decisions are frequently made in secret, guided by vague or unwritten rules, and enforced without appeal. This opacity creates a chilling effect, where only the most conventional and uncontroversial ventures can operate with confidence, while innovative or dissenting voices are silenced—not by law, but by corporate fiat.

The payment ecosystem’s complexity compounds the issue. Businesses must navigate a labyrinth of intermediaries—payment gateways, processors, underwriting banks, and the card networks themselves—each with its own set of standards. Violating any one of these, often unknowingly, can result in immediate exclusion from the digital marketplace. This structure obscures accountability, leaving businesses unable to identify who denied them service or why. Such a system stifles competition and innovation, as new entrants struggle to survive under arbitrary and unpredictable conditions.


Economic and Free Speech Implications​

The economic toll is staggering. Payment networks extract billions through transaction fees—typically 2.9% plus 30 cents per purchase—burdening businesses of all sizes. For example, a major retailer with $648.1 billion in gross sales in 2024 could lose an estimated $18.8 billion to these fees alone, not counting additional per-transaction costs. Small businesses, often operating on slim margins, are even more vulnerable, losing profitability to fees they cannot avoid or pass on. This is not a free market; it is a system where a handful of corporations hold the keys to economic participation.

Beyond economics, debanking threatens free speech. When payment networks can exclude businesses based on their content or viewpoint, they effectively control who can speak and what can be said online. This power bypasses democratic processes and legal protections, placing the fate of lawful enterprises in the hands of unaccountable private entities. The internet, once a vibrant space for diverse ideas, risks becoming a sanitized echo chamber dictated by corporate interests.

Inadequacy of Current Solutions​

Existing efforts, such as the "Fair Access to Banking Act," are insufficient. While well-intentioned, the bill focuses narrowly on traditional banks rather than the broader ecosystem of payment processors and networks, where the real power lies. Its remedy—allowing complaints to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) with potential fines—is toothless. Even if enforceable, a $10,000 fine is trivial to these financial giants, and recent Supreme Court rulings have undermined the OCC’s authority to impose such penalties. Moreover, discretionary enforcement leaves room for political bias, offering no reliable relief to affected businesses.

A Call for Stronger Legislation​

To address this crisis, I urge you to champion comprehensive legislation that:
  1. Establishes Federal Civil Relief: Create a mechanism for businesses wrongfully denied payment services to seek statutory damages for lost opportunities, with provisions for punitive damages and attorney’s fees. This would provide a viable path to challenge unjust debanking and hold payment networks accountable.
  2. Reforms Existing Laws: Amend statutes like Title III of the PATRIOT Act, which has enabled financial services to act as unaccountable enforcers. Restoring due process and transparency to the debanking process is essential to protect lawful businesses.
These measures would level the playing field, ensuring that all lawful enterprises—regardless of their content or perspective—can access the payment services necessary to thrive in the digital age.

Conclusion​

Senator, the time to act is now. The Department of Justice’s ongoing lawsuit against Visa for monopolistic practices underscores the urgency of this issue, with the DOJ noting that Visa sets fees “relative to the value we provide”—a clear admission of exploiting its dominance. We cannot allow a cartel of payment networks to dictate who participates in our economy or what ideas can flourish online. I implore you to support legislation that guarantees fair access to payment processing, safeguarding our economy, our democracy, and the promise of a free and open internet.

Thank you for your consideration. I eagerly await your action on this critical issue.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]
 
Same thing as steam removing smut, all of the porn games have been removed from itch.io.
Even things you paid for are straight up gone, you cannot redownload it.
(I don't pay for porn but people made threads about it on /v/, and its not like /v/ to make shit up to complain about.)
This should be a highlight I think because its not just steam now they are going after.
Also my (non porn) mod for oblivion remastered does not appear in search even when typing in the exact title or Oblivion Remastered into the search bar - its the one that changes it from Body Type 1 or Body Type 2 to Female / Male. I can still access the page with a direct link.

On my other account for some sfw UI or skin mods I made for another game I can search for them and they appear.
 
I had grok read the shit null wrote on the topic and had it spit out this form letter. without mention the farms, null, or the other political shit like dei, mass immigration, or child srs.
This is pathetic. Doesn't even call the Senator a nigger, not even once. Doesn't even have a threat of assassination in it.

Weak.
 
This should be a highlight I think because its not just steam now they are going after.
Also my (non porn) mod for oblivion remastered does not appear in search even when typing in the exact title or Oblivion Remastered into the search bar - its the one that changes it from Body Type 1 or Body Type 2 to Female / Male. I can still access the page with a direct link.

On my other account for some sfw UI or skin mods I made for another game I can search for them and they appear.
I told you so moment.

Steam and itch io are just a latest list of victims.

Before they go after steam, they went after 3 AI generator sites with a 100% hit rate.

Even before then they hit Pixiv Fanbox and Patreon (this is why Fantia no longer accepts anything but japanese payment services and NicoNico is now 80% region locked.)

And even before Itch.io deplatformed all porn games, they removed Megachud.

And if the EU/UN themselves are not convinced to change their views from this point on (yes, not the payment processors, the EU/UN themselves), there is legitimately NOTHING you can do and things like crypto and setting up your own currency is mere cope.
 
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