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Now, if Stalin couldn’t figure out how to turn a profit on slave labor using hundreds of thousands of armed guards overseeing millions of prisoners, how do you reckon it’ll fare in America?
That's because there's no free market under communism. No profit motive to incentivize anybody involved. In a market-driven economy it doesn't cost much more to guard your prisoners in their cells vs. in the factory or the fields. In the US prison labor is incredibly economical. Slavery is legal for prisoners. Prison labor is so economical it creates a whole different set of problems with undercutting legit local businesses. For example prison farms could seriously hurt local farmers so AFAIK prison-grown produce is consumed in the prisons by the prisoners instead of being sold on the market (which still undercuts local suppliers but is the lesser of evils). Same with chain-gangs. Local landscaping firms can't compete with legal slave labor, so no more chain gangs, etc.
 
"There is no epstein list, guys! BTW here are some guys from the Epstein list you should be focusing on." Come on now.
My issue with the list is that it’s now become a vague idea rather than “Did Epstein have a list of VIPs who he supplied girls to? People who would regularly go to his townhouse and island to party?” Like the idea that Vatican got a list of pedo priests rather than trying to understand which Diocese and influential Church officers were hiding pedophiles when Benedict took over (he did comment on how in many cases entrenched bureaucrats fuck every thing).

It’s now become a political weapon rather than about wanting to know if someone wasn’t just associated with a Influence peddler who used pedophilic blackmail (I think Mossad was a client more than him working for them). Dems will put it in a bill filled with other things you have to say yes to and know when it’s voted down they can gleefully scream “They didn’t release the list”.

I can understand discretion and prudence in looking at flight logs and associations with Epstein. Ghislane and Epstein basically wanted ins with everyone as I understand it. The ability to destroy reputations if they went down. That’s what is occurring now. My issue is Bondy did this in the most retarded fashion. Just fucking say Steven Hawking was a pedophile and that you are “investigating if associations were associations or something more concrete”.
 
*NGOs* are planning a massive protest, basically all paid for protestors
Something like 70% of the based scotts believe that he's a hecking dictator for deportations,tariffs and not giving all our money to Ukraine apparently
The Democrats' violent rhetoric has gotten another cop killed, but their idiot constituents will keep voting for them.
Meh, he was probably a Trump voter + Republicans killed brave officers on January 6th! They guarded the capital, even as they were beaten to death.
 
My issue with the list is that it’s now become a vague idea rather than “Did Epstein have a list of VIPs who he supplied girls to? People who would regularly go to his townhouse and island to party?” Like the idea that Vatican got a list of pedo priests rather than trying to understand which Diocese and influential Church officers were hiding pedophiles under Benedict.

It’s now become a political weapon rather than about wanting to know if someone wasn’t just associated with a Influence peddler who used pedophilic blackmail (I think Mossad was a client more than him working for them). Dems will put it in a bill filled with other things you have to say yes to and know when it’s voted down they can gleefully scream “They didn’t release the list”.

I can understand discretion and prudence in looking at flight logs and associations with Epstein. Ghislane and Epstein basically wanted ins with everyone as I understand it. The ability to destroy reputations if they went down. That’s what is occurring now. My issue is Bondy did this in the most retarded fashion. Just fucking say Steven Hawking was a pedophile and that you are “investigating if associations were associations or something more concrete”.
Whose fault do you think all that is? Which presidential candidate originally associated the Epstein story with vague accusations?

Couldn’t Trump have put all this to rest before it even started by just being transparent? He’s been so schizophrenic about this whole thing and 90% of the attention that’s fixated on him right now is because of his extremely weird behavior alone. Most people didn’t care that much and were fine with being slow rolled but now it’s a Democrat hoax??

Even if you buy all the made up fairy tale silliness about democrats editing the files or making new ones then why can’t Trump just say that? Maybe even arrest someone? Instead he’s panicking on TV and telling everyone to just stop talking about it and if you aren’t smart enough to clearly see what’s happening in front of us at this point then you’re worse than a liberal. Hopeless and inoperable. If you people don’t get honest with yourselves the right as any kind of movement in this country will go down with these corrupt fucks.

Edit: I’m a retard and had some typos
 
tbf he did say he'll give 'a list' not 'the list'.
I just want some transparency and to not be treated like a fucking idiot.

you can't have Trump going around saying "these specific people were involved with Epstein and probably child fuckers. I have their names i can make you a list if you want so you, the media, can look into them." when His own DOJ and FBI have swore up and down "there are no clients, no list of names and nobody was having sex with minors except for Epstein"

Pick a fucking narrative and stick with it.
 
Because shit just wasn’t economical.
I don't disagree. I don't imagine having chain-gangers pick garbage up off the roadside to be profitable. I also don't imagine having chain-gangers go out into the wild to help curb the spread of invasive species is by itself profitable. I also suspect using convicts as an emergency labor pool during natural disasters isn't particularly profitable either.

I'm still in favor of these things. Its not about profit, its about asking "What use do we have for these people we can put to work at-will?" bearing in mind that the proposed alternative up-thread is executing them as wastes of space and resources who have nothing positive to contribute (Which I'm not entirely unsympathetic toward either tbh)
 
For example prison farms could seriously hurt local farmers so AFAIK prison-grown produce is consumed in the prisons by the prisoners instead of being sold on the market (which still undercuts local suppliers but is the lesser of evils).
Being forced to buy food at market rates for prisoners only hurts taxpayers. If these individuals are going to sit around doing nothing all day, they can at least grow the food they eat.
 
Gotta a lot of shit to do today so I just leave you withis
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Has humanitarian aid ever actually worked?
>The most important and effective thing the US government does is spend money on non-Americans that rarely accomplished the humanitarian aims it's meant to
How delusional do you have to be to think this?
 
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the drug addicts?
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Good golly, every day Trump wakes up and goes "fuck it". Dude is fully Reagenmaxing his dumbass domestic policys while having the foreign policy chops of Liz Truss

fucker has deported less than a quarter million illegals despite using gestapo tactics and solved exactly 0 foreign wars all while managing to go back on his major campaign promises (epstien, jfk, 9/11)

You all may not like to hear it but he is doing EVERYTHING obama did, bombing middles east countrys and limp wristed deportations.
 
Democrats are making a serious effort to rebuild their public image and it might actually work. All they have to do is keep it up and Republicans might never win an election ever again.

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Polling still indicates the economy is the number one problem so this image that they posted completely destroys their party
 
What I don't get is why people are assuming the government is going to hunt down every disabled person in America when the Executive Order only specifies those who could be a threat to others and themselves. I don't think they're going to throw you in a mental hospital because you have anxiety or ADHD.
Because certain people have made “mental illness” their entire identity. They have a Twitter bio full of acronyms for medical disorders so they can claim special warrior princess points. That EO obviously doesn’t apply to these grifters, but they’re going to bitch and complain about it anyway, just like they bitch and moan about “trans genocide” which also doesn’t exist.
 
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