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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Gardens need water.
I cannot stress how useful it is to have some water collection methods at home, the main thing* that's kept me going in the drought is having water butts for collecting and storing water. Invest in some decent water butts and hook those bad boys up to your guttering and you've at least got something for the garden when our hose licenses are revoked. Slap a chunk of mosquito dunk in them every now and then and job's done.
If you're feeling fancy you can get pumps for them so you can use it with a hosepipe but I'm yet to find one that isn't utterly fucking dogshit.

*And also keeping fish, when it gets too hot I need to get the temperature down in the tanks anyways so a gradual water change gives me enough water to slap into my containers/greenhouse as they need. Can also compost any plant trimmings or fucking algae that comes out of there too.
 
Well I couldn't find the McDonalds individual who got arrested, have some of the rest.

Comedian has to cancel a Fringe show after getting involved with ramming a van into a defence contractor's fence.
Comedian Susan Riddell has cancelled her Edinburgh Fringe show because she cannot travel into the city under bail conditions imposed after a van was allegedly driven into a defence factory fence.
Ms Riddell was one of three women arrested in connection with the incident at Leonardo UK's facility on Crewe Road North last week.
At a private hearing via videolink at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Monday, she made no plea to a charge of malicious mischief, aggravated by having a "terrorist connection".
Her new show How Do You Sleep at Night? had been due to run for a month at the festival, which begins next week.


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Ms Riddell is a regular panellist on BBC Scotland's Breaking the News and The Good, the Bad and the Unexpected, and recently presented BBC Edinburgh Unlocked.
She has also written and starred in her own BBC mini-sitcom pilot Dregs.
In an Instagram post, Ms Riddell said: "Thanks to everyone who has shared my Edinburgh fringe show but unfortunately due to bail conditions I'm barred from Edinburgh for the foreseeable so I won't be doing my show."
The Glasgow-based comedian's hour-long show had a 19:15 slot at Monkey Barrel at The Tron from 28 July until 24 August.
However, her bail conditions have restricted her travel into the capital.
She was charged alongside Allegra Fitzherbert, 34, of London, and Naomi Stubbs-Gorman, 31, of Glasgow - all of whom made no pleas at the court hearing.
Ms Riddell was also charged with an offence under the Road Traffic Act 1988 which was "aggravated by reason of having a terrorist connection".
The Shut Down Leonardo campaign had said it was protesting against the company's laser targeting system, which it claims is used by the Israeli military.
Leonardo said it does not supply equipment directly to Israel and that its main customer is the UK's armed forces.
Council is told, "it would be a legally bad idea to do this" and does it anyway
A council in Northern Ireland has gone against its own legal advice and voted to call for charges to be dropped against people arrested for supporting the newly-banned group, Palestine Action.
Derry City and Strabane District Council is understood to be one of the first local authorities in the UK to back such a motion.
The government proscribed Palestine Action earlier this month under the Terrorism Act following a break-in at an RAF base, with membership carrying a maximum jail term of 14 years.
Dozens of people have been arrested for carrying placards supporting the group, including an elderly female vicar and an 81-year-old former magistrate.

More than 100 people protesting the decision to proscribe Palestine Action as a terror group have been held across the UK.
Demonstrations in support of the pro-Palestine activist group took place in London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Bristol and Truro, in Cornwall, on Saturday.
The Metropolitan Police said 55 people were arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences for displaying placards in support of Palestine Action, at the largest demonstration in Westminster.
Palestine Action lobbies against Israeli-linked businesses in the UK and accuses the British government of complicitity in genocide in Gaza.


The motion calling for charges against the arrested supporters of Palestine Action to be dropped was passed by Derry City and Strabane District Council on Wednesday.
That was despite the advice of the city solicitor, Philip Kingston, and chief executive John Kelpie, who told councillors that a section of the motion calling for the charges to be dropped "must come out".
The Sinn Féin Mayor Ruairí McHugh said he would allow the motion in its entirety and it was carried with support of his party, the SDLP, People Before Profit and some independents.
The Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) and Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) voted against.
The motion also calls for the ban to be lifted, but as this was enacted by the Westminster Parliament, it would have to be repealed by that body.
People Before Profit councillor Shaun Harkin, who proposed the motion, said tens of thousands of people had been "killed and slaughtered" in Gaza and Palestinian children were being "starved to death".
The government, he said, were "complicit in this" and would "reap the whirlwind".
He said the banning of Palestine Action was a "ridiculous use of legislation" which could end up in peaceful people being put in prison.
Independent councillor Gary Donnelly said the ban was an attempt to "scare the life out of people" and "scare them off the streets", while Catherine McDaid, of the SDLP, described the legislation as "the slippery slope".
"If you go out and oppose genocide, you are going to be done for supporting a terrorist organisation," she said.
But DUP councillor Niree McMorris said it was "absurd" for the council to go against their own legal advice.
In between golf Trump is apparently doing something this trip
The EU appears to be on the verge of signing a trade deal with Donald Trump after the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, announced she would meet the US president on Sunday during his four-day trip to Scotland.
Trump landed in Scotland on Friday evening before the opening of his new golf course in Aberdeenshire. He said he was also planning to meet the British prime minister, Keir Starmer, on Saturday.

The European Commission said von der Leyen’s visit would be at Trump’s invitation. Ireland’s taoiseach, Micheál Martin, said on Friday a deal would “hopefully be signed off before the weekend is over”.
After getting off Air Force One, Trump described von der Leyen as a “highly respected woman”, said there was a “good 50-50 chance” for a deal, and said the “sticking points have to do with maybe 20 different things”. He said it “would be the biggest deal of them all if we make it”.

Trump heaped praise on Starmer and Scotland’s first minister, John Swinney, and said the French president, Emmanuel Macron, was “a team player” but that France’s planned recognition of Palestine as a state would not “carry any weight”.
Trump said he was looking forward to meeting Swinney. Before boarding the presidential plane, he told journalists: “The Scottish leader is a good man, so I look forward to meeting him.”
He said he had a “lot of love” for Scotland.
Trump hinted he was looking for more concessions from the EU, saying Japan had had a worse chance than Brussels of getting a deal but succeeded after offering more to the US.
He also criticised what he called “the windmills” – windfarms – which he claimed were “ruining your beautiful fields and killing your birds”, and hit out at the level of immigration in the EU, saying it was an “invasion” which was “killing Europe”.
Von der Leyen said she “had a good call” with Trump before he landed in Scotland and they had “agreed to meet in Scotland on Sunday to discuss transatlantic trade relations, and how we can keep them strong”.
Trump would not meet von der Leyen unless a deal was ready to be signed, sources have said.
He also hinted he was ready to widen the deal he had already agreed with the UK, fuelling speculation he could finally eliminate the 25% tariff he imposed on steel. “This week we want to talk about certain aspects [of the trade deal] which are going to be good for both countries; more fine tuning. We are also going to be doing a little celebrating together because, you know, we get along very well,” he said.
“We are going to have a good time, I think. The prime minister and I get along very well; the Scottish leader too, we have a lot of things, my mother was born in Scotland, and he’s a good man, the Scottish leader … so I’m looking forward to meeting him.”
Asked about a trade deal with the EU, he said: “I would say that we have a 50/50 chance, maybe less than that … I would have said we had a 25% chance with Japan, and they kept coming back and we made a deal.”
The EU is resigned to an agreement in principle on 15% baseline tariffs, including on cars, which will make brands from Volvo to Volkswagen more costly for US traders to import than Range Rovers from Britain, which carved out a deal allowing 100,000 cars a year to be imported to the US at a 10% tariff.
On Friday, Volkswagen laid bare the cost of Trump’s import tariffs saying it had taken a £1bn hit in the first half of the year as a direct result.
Trump struck a deal with Starmer in May, reducing tariffs on cars from 27.5% to 10% in exchange for increases in UK imports of beef and ethanol. While it is being seen as a clever move by Starmer, the ethanol industry says it is fighting for survival against US ethanol, which is used in E10 biofuel in filling stations around the UK.
The president of the National Farmers’ Union, Tom Bradshaw, said his “biggest worry” was that Starmer would sell farmers out by allowing in US dairy products. “We understand the US is pushing very, very hard for dairy access, and for us that is a real red line as they use hormones that we stopped using in dairy production 30 years ago.”
He said the farming sector could not “give any more” and warned Starmer not to sacrifice agriculture.
Before boarding Air Force One, Trump claimed he would have sealed deals with nearly all of the 60 countries he threatened with punitive tariffs by next Friday, his self-imposed deadline for agreements.
He said he had not “really had a lot of luck with Canada” but he was not focused on it, and rather was “working very diligently with Europe, the EU” to get a deal.
Spain had apparently had some recent kerfuffle where a bunch of schoolchildren were removed from the place, all Jewish. Turns out the pilot trained a couple of the 9/11 hijackers (in a normal flight school)
The pilot who ordered the removal of 47 French Jewish children from a plane before take-off gave flying lessons to two of the September 11 terrorists, it has emerged.
Iván Chirivella was named by the Spanish airline Vueling as having been in charge of the flight from Valencia to Paris Orly on Wednesday.
As the captain, he had taken the decision to call the Guardia Civil police force and expel the group of mostly teenagers for “disruptive behaviour” and a “confrontational attitude” towards the cabin crew.
In a statement, Vueling said a group of children aged between 10 and 17 were returning home from a summer camp when they began meddling with the plane’s safety equipment, which included trying to “take out life vests, manipulate ceiling compartment oxygen masks and remove the high-pressure oxygen cylinder”.

The airline and the Guardia Civil denied that the decision to remove the children and their monitors had any connection to the reported singing of songs in Hebrew, as a parent of one of the children claimed.

According to an expanded statement issued by Vueling on Friday, Mr Chirivella, who was born in the Canary Islands in 1976, has flown for the airline since 2006.
Previously, he worked as a flight instructor, including a spell at the Jones Aviation academy in Florida, where he taught the 9/11 terrorists Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al Shehhi.
Atta flew a hijacked plane into the North Tower of New York’s World Trade Center, with Al Shehhi directing the jet he was piloting into the South Tower 17 minutes later, causing the deaths of 2,753 people.
In a 2003 book entitled Innocent Accomplice, Mr Chirivella wrote about having been one of the September 11 terrorists’ flight instructors, adding that there was no way of knowing what the al-Qaeda operatives’ intentions were.

He remembered Atta and Al Shehhi as “normal lads”, despite their expressing “sexist” attitudes. However, they “never said anything bad about the US”.
He said that the two were expelled from the academy for their behaviour towards women who worked there and the attempt by one of the two men to falsify the signature of his accomplice on a training roster.

Mr Chirivella was investigated by the FBI over his connection to the two 9/11 pilots, saying during an interview with the newspaper El Mundo while promoting his book that the bureau had treated him and many other people “unfairly”.
 
If you're feeling fancy you can get pumps for them so you can use it with a hosepipe but I'm yet to find one that isn't utterly fucking dogshit.
A sump pump will do the job in most cases. I've got a 400W/10k litre p/h one that was plenty big enough to pump out my garage when it flooded a few years back. Allegedly 10,000 litres an hour, anyway; I suspect that doesn't account for the back-pressure from the hose.

Just attach your hose to it, drop it in the butt, and off you go.
 
My sister got a new build, put down some nice turf and was setting up little wooden plots, and it was all dead. Nothing took, so me and her boyfriend dug up the garden. Down about half a foot was rubble, plastic bags, random bits of rubbish, just dumped. We had to dig four feet down to get it all out, and then buy a load of new soil to put in. Actually fucking insane.
Aren't most UK new builds like this? Dump all the rubble created whilst building, and dump it in the garden areas rather that remove it. Then they only need a bit of topsoil to put it a few cms deep on each garden. Then turf it with some cheap meadow grass a couple of weeks before the buyer moves in. Which will die or look shit, no matter how it is cared for within a couple of months.
 
Aren't most UK new builds like this? Dump all the rubble created whilst building, and dump it in the garden areas rather that remove it. Then they only need a bit of topsoil to put it a few cms deep on each garden. Then turf it with some cheap meadow grass a couple of weeks before the buyer moves in. Which will die or look shit, no matter how it is cared for within a couple of months.
Seems to be, yes. The UK is turning into a giant slum. Joy. I might just fucking leave. I'm 30 soon, I have a decent STEM job, I can get a Euro passport, and just fuck off somewhere. It's very disheartening.
 
In between golf Trump is apparently doing something this trip
https://archive.ph/2Vyy2
Whatever happened to free speech being a core part of US trade deels? If Trump doesn't demand the online safety rules are changed he's cucked himself yet again.
Seems to be, yes. The UK is turning into a giant slum. Joy. I might just fucking leave. I'm 30 soon, I have a decent STEM job, I can get a Euro passport, and just fuck off somewhere. It's very disheartening.
Indian builders building Indian style. If all the people who want to fix things flee then you're just as bad as the foreigners invading this land. You're British, this is your land. You will never be anything but a foreigner else where. And they will be angry when all the foreigners invade their land.
 
I do t care about people unable to wash their cars
You can always take your car to a boatmalian operated illegal car wash. They can still pour hundreds of tons of water down the drain, while illegally earning cash-in-hand tax-dodging money that doesn't affect their dole claim.

Be sure to report edith and margret for watering their lillies though. They're literally causing a drought!
 
He also criticised what he called “the windmills” – windfarms – which he claimed were “ruining your beautiful fields and killing your birds”, and hit out at the level of immigration in the EU, saying it was an “invasion” which was “killing Europe”.
Fuck those hideous bird blenders, hope they all burn down.
 
Seems to be, yes. The UK is turning into a giant slum. Joy. I might just fucking leave. I'm 30 soon, I have a decent STEM job, I can get a Euro passport, and just fuck off somewhere. It's very disheartening.
I am in the same boat emigration-wise; my other half is American, and we're going to apply for a K-1. I was going to save as much as possible, but with how fast it's all going, I am just going to retrain in nursing over there. It's a fraction of the cost and takes 2 years. Unfortunately, none of my financial qualifications carry over, but my other half has a great paycheque.

I am just morally and spiritually eroded at this point, honestly. I don't think this government is going to last to Christmas, honestly, because an IMF bailout will crucify them.
 
I am in the same boat emigration-wise; my other half is American, and we're going to apply for a K-1. I was going to save as much as possible, but with how fast it's all going, I am just going to retrain in nursing over there. It's a fraction of the cost and takes 2 years. Unfortunately, none of my financial qualifications carry over, but my other half has a great paycheque.

I am just morally and spiritually eroded at this point, honestly. I don't think this government is going to last to Christmas, honestly, because an IMF bailout will crucify them.
Save yourself, get out while you can.
I’m adapting my plan since I can guess there will be penalties for expat landlords.
 
Fuck those hideous bird blenders, hope they all burn down.
Windmills aren't killing birds, birds are killing themselves by launching themselves into them when they could just avoid them. It's sad but it's natural selection.

I do not understand why animals are so retarded. Two cats in my neighbourhood are constantly loudly beefing and screaming at each other. You both KNOW you don't like each other, so why not just avoid each other? Simple solution.
 
Oh dear, the Jug Eared Loser Lineker has done it again:



A corny pun which annoyed the knicker-wetting classes.

@Chunky Salsa at least it wasn't a new-build flat in Swansea:


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We're building sub-standard new accommodation across the UK that would not have had the proper sign-off years ago. This is what happens when loonies take over - near me, a new development is having to be abandoned because the bog land it's being built on hasn't been sufficiently drained.

The developers are facing a financial arse ache over this, the Council face reprimands from both the Senedd and national Labour Government for not hitting the targets mandated of them.
 
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I have a question for you tea kiwis. Given the absolute state of your country, what are you and your acquaintances doing? Are you trying to move to the countryside/quieter areas, are you trying to immigrate to other countries? Or are you just too poor to leave and are basically forced to stay in your shitty neighborhood. I'm asking this sincerely because other countries aren't doing so hot either.
 
I have a question for you tea kiwis. Given the absolute state of your country, what are you and your acquaintances doing? Are you trying to move to the countryside/quieter areas, are you trying to immigrate to other countries? Or are you just too poor to leave and are basically forced to stay in your shitty neighborhood. I'm asking this sincerely because other countries aren't doing so hot either.
Keep my head down (recognising that normie people being encouraged to be open about how they feel the replacement is going is a honeypot). Avoid brown towns, never relax if there’s no avoiding.
Emigrating when ready.
 
I think it is manufactured now for him to retain relevancy.
I have a question for you tea kiwis. Given the absolute state of your country, what are you and your acquaintances doing? Are you trying to move to the countryside/quieter areas, are you trying to immigrate to other countries? Or are you just too poor to leave and are basically forced to stay in your shitty neighborhood. I'm asking this sincerely because other countries aren't doing so hot either.
Interesting, so like with the states, if you are poor, it is hard to move to different counties due to the cost. High tax means services like removals and housing are high, to move far you will need to sacrifice 000s which the English paycheque does not support.

I live in a very rural area, but even those areas have migrants. They sneak them in and tell them to keep a low profile for a few weeks, and they appear. Moving to the countryside is more challenging because the homes tend to be retained, and there is very low stock. If you see building work too it's very rare because as someone with builders in the family. They are offered a pittance, and even the large companies refuse because they're literally making a loss. For example, I live in a protected area. 4 years ago, some homes were being built and are nowhere near done.

The locals said Don't build there, the soil is hell. Talked with the builders in the local cafe, and they said that the foreman was pissed because they made a huge loss as assessments were rushed. What is worse in the completed area, no one is biting on buying the homes because they know they won't be welcomed, and the local council decided to fill 20% with pakis from Birmingham. People are refusing to buy there, and locals have been selling to leave there, and these are liberals too.

Like @SirCliveSinclairdabbing said, I keep my head down and talk with my local parish, nothing inflammatory, etc but stick with the plan on leaving.
 
I have a question for you tea kiwis. Given the absolute state of your country, what are you and your acquaintances doing? Are you trying to move to the countryside/quieter areas, are you trying to immigrate to other countries? Or are you just too poor to leave and are basically forced to stay in your shitty neighborhood. I'm asking this sincerely because other countries aren't doing so hot either.
People make it out to be worse than it is I think, but the bits where it's bad are real bad, I'm fortuitous to not be in a too bad a spot myself and there's plenty of places just like it, still pretty shit of course but not the South Africa "get on a plane your retards" tier.
And we're not "stuck" here, we are here, some of us may disperse but the homeland is the be-all end-all.
 
Oh dear, the Jug Eared Loser Lineker has done it again:



A corny pun which annoyed the knicker-wetting classes.
Good grief, how could anyone be offended by that? Guess it just goes to show that you should never give out one of those simpering public apologies. Once they know you' can be bullied into obedience, they come after you for everything.
And we're not "stuck" here, we are here, some of us may disperse but the homeland is the be-all end-all.
Precisely so. These are our islands, not theirs. I was born here, I'll bloody well die here, and god willing I'll see the tide turn before I do. Besides, I've known enough ex-pats to know it's not a life I'd want to live. They either assimilate and end up losing their identity (ideal for the host nation, not so much for the migrant), or they form an enclave and spend the rest of their lives complaining about all things they miss from the old country, while trying to make their new home resemble it.
 
Are you trying to move to the countryside/quieter areas
Browns and blacks are doing that now. Rural England is no longer the haven it used to be. As care homes go bust they buy up the buildings and drop the immigrants into them. Knowing the main train line in the country will drop them in London and Birmginham for less than £100.

I saw a village that was no joke 95% white turn brown between weekly visits. Pakis sitting on park benches taking photos for social media. Large groups of black men getting off the train together in a place with maybe 2 black families total. It went from a largely white village to a bunch of browns and blacks hanging around the village center. There's reports of men using gardens as toilets now if you watch the local gossip.
I live in a very rural area, but even those areas have migrants. They sneak them in and tell them to keep a low profile for a few weeks, and they appear. Moving to the countryside is more challenging because the homes tend to be retained
They like to dump them on places with transport links to Birmingham and London. They know they will run and then they can wash their hands of them. Losing an illegal immigrant should be a crime, not standard practice.
People make it out to be worse than it is I think, but the bits where it's bad are real bad
Those places were once "not so bad" and a coach carries a lot of immigrants any where in the country it under a day. Today's nice places can be tomorrows drop off point.
Precisely so. These are our islands, not theirs. I was born here, I'll bloody well die here, and god willing I'll see the tide turn before I do. Besides, I've known enough ex-pats to know it's not a life I'd want to live. They either assimilate and end up losing their identity (ideal for the host nation, not so much for the migrant), or they form an enclave and spend the rest of their lives complaining about all things they miss from the old country, while trying to make their new home resemble it.
I have been wondering about this with moving between British nations. Would an Englishman in Wales be as alien as one in the US? If the country becomes South Africa 2 : electric boogaloo living in rural farming areas would end badly. I wouldn't flee the island, but I would consider banding together with other white British people to form a safe community.
For all people talk about how shit it is in the bug-hives, I've had a nice trip out to a steam rally today and you wouldn't know there was a single bomalian in the country. The whole scene could have been 50 years ago with little to no change.
Did you not have the token black women selling voodoo medicine? Copper bracelets or healing crystals?
 
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