💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

[Genghis Hitler]

Thanks for the fun stream and the fun thread! It was an entertaining night.

Josh still owes us a good WHOA BUDDY though.

They get what they pay for.....

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

I hope they all die soon

It will make the stream that much more rare. Just wait. I have been to the future with drugs. Selling rare streams is big money.

You think I am joking.

 

[Thomas Hendricken]

Welp.

It's tough.

 

[San Dimas High School]

People refuse to scroll back through the highlighted thread posts and check for themselves.

Because it's cancer. If the evidence is irrefutable, emailing the police is more effective than redtext / capstext. Since no one bothered to report this heinous crime it's going to come off as some weird personal issue people have with each other.

 

[Cranjis McBasketball]

What a thumbnail. I love it.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Because it's cancer. If the evidence is irrefutable, emailing the police is more effective than redtext / capstext. Since no one bothered to report this heinous crime it's going to come off as some weird personal issue people have with each other.

What crime??

 

[Rodeo Roadrunner]

Decent episode. I will point out though, that there were very little subs at all. Plenty of superchats (that they read at the end) but no big sub bombs at all. Honestly lends credence to the theory that they basically have 2-3 big whales that just donate under different alts. Either they weren't available for Saturday, or they were protesting Josh being on for some reason.

 

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I'm making this post because I believe the Warski allegations could possibly be true but there is so much retardation in this thread that it makes it hard to tell and I want to know if it is true so I want the people here to quit being retarded and calm down.

Oh look, the 50th person who has never posted in this thread before deciding to share this exact same take. Since you niggers are either too retarded or too lazy to go through the highlighted posts in this thread or use the forum's search feature, here you go:

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Now you're either going to keep tone policing this thread, insist the evidence is BS in spite of the fact that other lolcows have been crucified by this forum for less, or just conspicuously stop posting here. Then the 51st person will show up and say "guise there might be something here but the red text posting is cringe, either spoonfeed the information to me or the snapchat stuff is fake".

 

[Napoleon III]

I appreciate that the thread didn't just immediately blow me a random user off. One thing I didn't mention in my first post is I was reading this thread in early July when people were claiming Andy did this. So it wasn't that I was lazy I tried to find good posts laying out what happened. Most of what I saw was complaints about sweeping though.

That being said because the people here responded reasonably I dug through the thread for a couple hours and I watched Cog's Video and Metokur's Video to try and understand the entirety of the situation.


I'll go through and criticize the evidence and then explain what I think should happen. Sorry this post is so fucking long but there is a lot of shit going on.

2. Barnhill's involvement does not immediately prove that the claims are false (see: him accurately claiming Spectre_06 is a stolen valor LARPer). It does mean the claims are more deserving of scrutiny, though.

The problem with Barnhill being involved at all is that it just makes it like 1000 times harder to know anything at all. That guy is such a fucking liar that crazy conspiracy theories only dreamt up by schizophrenics become possible or even likely.

3. I do agree it's possible he fabricated the entire thing, but think about what's more likely: him fabricating the entire story (faking the chat logs, finding a minor willing to falsely accuse Andy and willing to show their face on livestream, etc) and then abandoning it at the tip of a hat, or the story being real and him just lying about it being a gayop to ruin Tonka and co.? You've already said he's a liar, so why are we just accepting his word that it's all fake?

To play Devil's Advocate, maybe Zoom made these messages to fuck with Tardski and then came out as his knight in shining armour to cosy up with the tard? This makes zero fucking sense.

I will present what I consider an alternate story of this case which I am not saying I believe but it must be disproven. Zoom or someone else fabricates chatlogs and various elements of the story. Zoom then realizes he can cozy up to Metokur by saying actually all of this is fake. Cozying up to Metokur is worthwhile because that gets Zoom a lot of attention which he wants. Zoom fabricated the evidence because he wanted to use it as a way to jumpstart his entrance into the Sektur.

Once he does this then he tries to snake on the people he had been working with to frame Andy again for clout and to make himself look more credible. He fucks this up because Zoom is a giant fucking retard.

Again not saying I believe this just trying to give a reasonable explanation for the purposes of argumentation. Zoom doing what I said above is entirely within character.

Here's all the chatlogs I can find, I cannot find the video where they show animations and the profile. It is likely in a Zoom / Corey Barnhill stream.

I'm bothered by one of the things about these chat logs. Why are the battery percentages different and why is location services on in some these screenshots and not in others and the time is different too?

Am I missing something here? I really appreciate the timeline but why didn't all the screenshots get taken at the same time? And if they didn't why not?

1. It wasn't just screenshots, it was a screen recording, which would have been far more difficult to fake.

Here is the thing it would not actually be that difficult to fake. Annoying and a pain in the ass sure, but not that difficult. I also would like to know the dox of the girl, now an adult woman, that Andy Warksi allegedly sexted. I'd like to confirm that she was 15 when these events were happening. All I could find that she was in fact 15 was stuff from Zoom saying that. I looked for her dox in any of the videos and I couldn't find it. I just found Zoom calling her "Tanya sand saying she was 15.

This gives about 6 weeks between Donga's claims and Andy's fight with Sinead.

This however is really good evidence that presents a really good case for the snapchats at least being partially true. In fact I think that it is more likely than not that they are true but I don't know if the entire story is true. I'd say like 60% or 70% sure that those snapchat logs were actually true. But I will point out that Tanya could have been 17 like the logs say and not 15 like Zoom says. Sexting a 17 year is really creepy and weird but it as not as bad as if she was 15.

That being said she could have been 15 and again I wish I had her dox so we could verify.

Londo summarized the situation pretty well. I also made a post that compiled all the information gathered about the Snapchat and 2/28/19 ordeals if that's of any use to you:

The evidence has been hashed and rehashed over, and over. At this stage the thread would need to be non stop reposting of the same evidence. People refuse to scroll back through the highlighted thread posts and check for themselves.

I appreciate you guys responding reasonably. That being said I still think a lot of the people here are acting a bit retarded over this. When I was reading through this thread trying to piece together as best as I could what happened I saw a lot of arguing over the red text shit.

I think you guys fucked up the revealing of this evidence of what Warski did. And you really fucked up how you handled the forum-owner. He had to react the way he did because you left him no choice, and he has been fairly lenient only banning the most egregious posters and letting this thread be angry at him and shitpost at him.

The thing you have to think about is that this evidence is a fucking mess and triply so when you consider it contains pieces of Corery Barnhill in it. It makes sense for Null to be cautious about immediately accepting this as true.

Now all that being said just because some users made some mistakes in this thread doesn't mean they are wrong and the fact that Altistic Right thinks it is true says a lot to me and that will probably also go a long way to convincing Null.

re: Andy, I haven't made any indication to PPP if I want or do not want Andy there and I have flat out told him I do not want to hear anything about this until the 27th. I joked about it on the stream but I've not decided what I want to do. Ignore homosexual behavior and steady as she goes is my default route, as per usual every time I deal with annoying people trying to force my hand.

And look he even said I will look into this stop sperging at me. If you are despairing about how Null has acted, this is very good news. You have a really good shot at getting what you want.

Personally I will not look upon Warski favorably(as much as I ever did so). I will not ever be watching something he is in ever again. I will point out in conversation if it comes up that I think he was sexting a minor who was in high school at the time.

Once Null comes out with his opinion of this situation and decides what he is going to do we can judge him for it but until then I will wait and see before judging him and I suggest you all in this thread do the same.

Oh look, the 50th person who has never posted in this thread before deciding to share this exact same take. Since you niggers are either too retarded or too lazy to go through the highlighted posts in this thread or use the forum's search feature, here you go:

You know what's funny your post popped up right before I was going to post this post saying I believe the logs are true. I didn't post in this thread because I don't like to post if I have nothing to say but I was reading it before. In fact I would check back in every couple of weeks to see what happened from the Warski allegations and all I saw was bitching about red text.

 

[Cousin Skeeter]

Decent episode. I will point out though, that there were very little subs at all. Plenty of superchats (that they read at the end) but no big sub bombs at all. Honestly lends credence to the theory that they basically have 2-3 big whales that just donate under different alts. Either they weren't available for Saturday, or they were protesting Josh being on for some reason.

I don't think Gabe Hoffman approves of kiwifarms/Josh, but I could be wrong.

 

[Guntkvd]

Decent episode. I will point out though, that there were very little subs at all. Plenty of superchats (that they read at the end) but no big sub bombs at all. Honestly lends credence to the theory that they basically have 2-3 big whales that just donate under different alts. Either they weren't available for Saturday, or they were protesting Josh being on for some reason.

Their top paypigs are animefreaks, and they don't approve v-tuber bashing.

 

[Null]

re: Snapchat
Where is the evidence of the person he was texting was of any particular age? I don't actually see anything about where this actually comes from. It's just loose screenshots from the least likeable and least trustworthy people imaginable with zero information about the recipient.

re: the Instagram stream

31:42 - 14 year old girl with her tits out, uncensored, partially clothed
32:16 - little girl with her tits out, naked, censored
33:17 - little girl with her tits out, naked, censored

The first is completely clothed with cleavage and the other two are censored with no indication of age. I scanned through the entire video and I don't see anything else after the third timestamp. To call this "child pornography" is extremely disingenuous. It's on YouTube and has been for almost 2 years. It's not child pornography. If Warski was the one who had this on his Instagram it'd be a different story, but this is supposed to be some sort of scuffed retard expose`.

The Instagram stream is likely the single dumbest thing Andy Warski has ever done and it is clear he either stepped into and disrupted some sort of pedophile circle, grooming circle, sex trafficking operation, or federal sting operation. Whatever the reality was, he was woefully unprepared and mentally incapable of handling that situation, and his attempt to pawn off a potential abuse scheme with victims attached as cheap content for Superchats is morally vacuous and disgusting.

That said, I still think that saying Andy Warski streamed child pornography is both a bad faith mischaracterization and a reckless use of the term child pornography. There are truly horrible things out there.

 

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You know what's funny your post popped up right before I was going to post this post saying I believe the logs are true. I didn't post in this thread because I don't like to post if I have nothing to say but I was reading it before. In fact I would check back in every couple of weeks to see what happened from the Warski allegations and all I saw was bitching about red text.

You have to admit, it is pretty annoying for the same people who say that red-text posters are shitting up the thread themselves shit up the thread by asking the same questions that have been answered a million times over. It's getting to the point that I think this thread needs a new OP so that new users have no excuse for not knowing.

re: Snapchat

Oh boy, here we go.

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[Null]

If you're just going to disregard everything I have to say then I will simply not look into this further. If you don't respect my opinion I have no patience for you.

 

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If you're just going to disregard everything I have to say then I will simply not look into this further. If you don't respect my opinion I have no patience for you.

Oh come on, don't be like that. We have a little fun here, that's all.

The first is completely clothed with cleavage and the other two are censored with no indication of age. I scanned through the entire video and I don't see anything else after the third timestamp. To call this "child pornography" is extremely disingenuous. It's on YouTube and has been for almost 2 years. It's not child pornography. If Warski was the one who had this on his Instagram it'd be a different story, but this is supposed to be some sort of scuffed retard expose`.

So does this mean that all lolicon CP isn't really CP since the characters are usually partially clothed or have their genitalia pixelated out? You can't say that the images aren't sexual in nature, since they clearly are meant to elicit a sexual response from the viewer given the text around them. Also, Warski himself states that it's CP from a CP ring in the stream, so it's indisputable that at least he thinks he's showing us pictures of sexualized children showing off their breasts.

 

[Peristaltic Pump]

Oh boy, here we go.

Just link the evidence that the girl Warski snapchatted was underage

 

[Null]

So does this mean that all lolicon CP isn't really CP

Lolicon as a taboo is how it reflects on its consumer. If you're into anime men, you're gay. If you're into anime feet, you're a foot fetishist. If you're into anime little girls, you're a ____.

I do not call it child pornography. I am careful to refer to it as "drawn child pornography" or simply "lolicon" or anything else. Lolicon does not have a victim (except for the viewer who is training himself to be attracted to people with no mature sexual characteristics), so it's important to delineate between those two concepts. Child pornography always has a victim.

Also, Warski himself states that it's CP from a CP ring in the stream, so it's indisputable that at least he thinks he's showing us pictures of sexualized children showing off their breasts.

Yes, the entire stream is profoundly retarded and if he wasn't binging coke at the time he'd not have done it.

 

[The Wokest]

Oh what a perfect opportunity to post a very on topic out of context clip of Warski

 

[Londo]

@Napoleon III

Once again I can't reply due to the length, however in response to it being personal:

Back during Vegas I was one of the people to defend the Casino over that situation - because it's Vegas, it's gross, but it's between adults in sin city. I was actually quite the Casino fan. I'm still a fan of PPP, because PPP is funny and hasn't got any weird repeating history of stuff with teenagers or fucking up an 'investigation'.

When the evidence came up, I was sceptical, but the evidence was overwhelming. Then the evidence about the resurfacing of the evidence of regarding his conduct with a school girl came up. That was my final straw.

Some things are too awful to simply ignore, and going on a broom happy spastic spree for the sake of a friendship with PPP is lolcow level derangement from Null. When he began to threaten people in the thread who were long-standing and active users, many of whom have been consistent and respected users of the IBS/Sektur, for the sake of false reports, it became clear this was more than just the usual tantrum; it was clearly influenced by bias, and bias is something that should never be given priority when it comes to allegations like that.

I have a record on this site of trying wherever possible to expose and report those that bring or wish to bring harm to children. I investigated possibly the largest open market of CSAM and had hundreds of videos struck down across various platforms, as well as attempting to disrupt the overall distribution of it (this is documented fully in prospering grounds under 'Indonesian CSAM'. It is a cause close to my heart and soul. The police are entirely ineffective at dealing with these people. I have witnessed it first hand. I have been the one to spend nights filing police reports both domestically and Internationally.

One of the reasons the Internet bullies people like this rather than letting it go is because unfortunately those that use the old Internet and the various boards and websites of it are more exposed to such filth than the average person. That means we're also more accustom to the failures of the legal system when dealing with these things. Bullying and complete isolating is a very effective method of, if not justice, ensuring those of the worst nature do not have a platform to either profit or further their reach of young people.

It is concerning that ego and hubris may be placed above looking at the potential horrors that someone is capable of. It's the hypocrisy -- anyone that claims on a constant basis to want to see pedos suffer but then refuses to look at evidence of such because he doesn't like the people presenting the evidence or those rehashing it isn't beating that drum because they care about the safety of children; they're doing it because it benefits them, and that is perhaps one of the most distasteful things anyone can do given the nature of such allegations. For better or for worse I am someone that has a consistency of willingness to die on the sword of my morals and I expect the same from people that claim to care about the defence of children.

 

[Null]

Once again I can't reply due to the length, however in response to it being personal:

are you genuinely mentally handicapped? just highlight what you're replying to, everyone else has figured this out. You make a point to kvetch that you can't quote massive posts every single time instead of just using the site correctly.