Business Vegas Workers ‘Starting to Freak Out’ as Tourism and Tips Drop - The hotel industry is hurting too: occupancy fell 14.6% year over year in June, with revenue per available hotel room declining by 19.2%, per figures from CoStar. What good are tax-free tips if there’s no around to do the tipping?

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What good are tax-free tips if there’s no around to do the tipping?

That’s the question facing workers in Las Vegas these days amid economic uncertainty and a decline in travelers from Canada, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported Saturday (July 26).

As the report noted, the government gave these workers a boost earlier this month when it exempted up to $25,000 per year from personal income taxes. Workers say they’re happy with this move, but it’s not much help at a time when tipping income is falling.

“No tax on tips, that’s a rad thing. But it doesn’t really do us much good if there isn’t any people to get tips from,” said tattoo artist Charlie Mungo.

After the COVID pandemic, Mungo said he would earn from $3,000 to $6,000 each month, including tips. More recently, that number has fallen to $1,500 per month. The Canadian travelers who once amounted to nearly a third of his customers have become rare.

“We’re all starting to freak out,” he said.

Trips to Las Vegas for the first five months of 2025 were down 6.5% compared to the same period in 2024, the report added, citing data from the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority. Foot traffic on the Strip is also down, according to phone-tracking data from Placer.ai. The hotel industry is hurting too: occupancy fell 14.6% year over year in June, with revenue per available hotel room declining by 19.2%, per figures from CoStar.

“It’s an old saying that if the economy sneezes, Vegas gets the flu,” Ted Pappageorge, secretary-treasurer of the 60,000 member Culinary Workers Union, told WSJ.

A downturn in tourism has retailers around the country concerned, with nearly $20 billion at stake, as noted here last week.

A report on the trend by Bloomberg News said that some travelers were avoiding the U.S. due to White House immigration policies. But even the tourists who do come have begun to reconsider spending amid higher hotel and restaurant costs.

Meanwhile, PYMNTS wrote earlier this year that a higher number of workers and businesses moving to tips in the wake of the tax law could trigger some pushback. PYMNTS Intelligence research last year found that nearly 30% of consumers felt tipping had gotten “out of hand” and that 17% of consumers had reduced spending due to tips.
 
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>dick people around for the last few years with shitty slot payouts, 6 to 5 blackjack, and triple zero roulette
>
"oh no why doesn't anyone wanna play wid us anymore uwu"

The true degens can just gamble on their phones from home now, you know that right?
 
Vegas used to give people more entertainment bang for their buck. Now every restaurant with mid mayo-covered sushi or "fusion" Korean or just Italian pasta costs $50/person to walk in the door and order an entree, way more if you want apps and drinks. Casinos have increased table minimums to the point where a lot of filthy casuals no longer care to start playing, and plenty of people can get a gambling fix for cheaper online. Live music and theater ticket prices are through the roof. I think Vegas needs some real value adds because a lot of people are just tired of how extractive it's become (and it's not like it wasn't extractive to begin with, but it's getting way worse).
 
Vegas used to give people more entertainment bang for their buck. Now every restaurant with mid mayo-covered sushi or "fusion" Korean or just Italian pasta costs $50/person to walk in the door and order an entree, way more if you want apps and drinks. Casinos have increased table minimums to the point where a lot of filthy casuals no longer care to start playing, and plenty of people can get a gambling fix for cheaper online. Live music and theater ticket prices are through the roof. I think Vegas needs some real value adds because a lot of people are just tired of how extractive it's become (and it's not like it wasn't extractive to begin with, but it's getting way worse).
Wasn't Vegas supposed to be dirt-cheap back when the mob still ran it?
 
Vegas has become insanely over priced. (yea no shit)

Ok who has been there in the last ten years? There are more people outside of places than inside. It has become like so many other places where its all about the whales; not the masses.
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I'm serious, they tried to spear the whales, and scared all the fish, just like so many other things.
 
Vegas used to give people more entertainment bang for their buck. Now every restaurant with mid mayo-covered sushi or "fusion" Korean or just Italian pasta costs $50/person to walk in the door and order an entree, way more if you want apps and drinks. Casinos have increased table minimums to the point where a lot of filthy casuals no longer care to start playing, and plenty of people can get a gambling fix for cheaper online. Live music and theater ticket prices are through the roof. I think Vegas needs some real value adds because a lot of people are just tired of how extractive it's become (and it's not like it wasn't extractive to begin with, but it's getting way worse).
And who wants to walk the strip when it's just a zombie horde of filthy drug addicts or people trying to scam you?
 
>Get Rid of all the over the top theming at resorts and replace them with generic shit that you can find anywhere
>Get rid of the Neon signs and replace them with eyesore video screens
>Get rid of the Buffets or price them out of reach
>Get rid of all of the benefits that people got for staying at the resorts
>Get rid of all of the showgirls and big flashy revues
>Make the gambling more rigged than what Evil Eddie does
>Make all of the resorts completely overpriced and low-quality at the same time
>Let homeless roam around and shit on the streets and smoke weed, even on the Strip
Gee I wonder why nobody wants to go to Vegas anymore.
 
Guys this is not a casino issue, it's a restaurant issue.
The bullshit CNF fee in any restaurant is already 5% of your meal.
Then they add a "service" fee and I shit you not a covid fee even nowadays in some places and boom there you go, 10% on top of the cost of the food. That's what I would've tipped but since you're already taking it for me that means no tip sorry.
Casinos are doing fine specially since they're getting more and more vampiric and scammy, restaurants are trying to do the same with the fees and let them try, people will still go out to eat in Vegas, specially tourist but if the bill comes and there's a 10% extra either they will assume that the tip is included or say fuck the tip.
 
Line go up forever thinking meets the reality that you can only cut so many corners before you have a circle.

And the solution at that point is not to start charging a "circle fee".


I know some people that go to Vegas pretty regularly, like several times a year, and they've said it's gotten really shitty and overpriced over the last couple years and all the little perks and hospitality incentives are pretty much gone.
The town will never be the same, big corporations took it all over, today? It looks like Disneyland. And while the kids play cardboard pirates? Mommy and Daddy drop the house payments and Juniors college money on the poker slots. In the old days? Dealers knew your name, what you drank, what you played. Today? Its like checking into an airport, and if you order room service? You're lucky if you get it by Thursday. Today its all gone. Got a whale show up with $4 million in a suitcase? Some 25 year old hotel schoolkid is gonna' want a social security number. And where did the money come from to rebuild the pyramids? Junk bonds............
 
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Guys this is not a casino issue, it's a restaurant issue.
The bullshit CNF fee in any restaurant is already 5% of your meal.
Then they add a "service" fee and I shit you not a covid fee even nowadays in some places and boom there you go, 10% on top of the cost of the food. That's what I would've tipped but since you're already taking it for me that means no tip sorry.
Casinos are doing fine specially since they're getting more and more vampiric and scammy, restaurants are trying to do the same with the fees and let them try, people will still go out to eat in Vegas, specially tourist but if the bill comes and there's a 10% extra either they will assume that the tip is included or say fuck the tip.
I've heard that on top of that, leftist states/cities now have "immigrant tax" ie money that goes directly to illegals, that works the same way. Either way, my money is worth more than to be given to some low end mouthbreathers for simply doing their damn jobs. If they don't like it, I can go elsewhere, they should be kissing my fucking feet for giving them the time of day and business in the first place, not the other way around.
 
The true degens can just gamble on their phones from home now, you know that right?
I highly recommend against that. You see, a big misconception on gambling is that you don't have to pay taxes on it. You do have to pay taxes on that. There's a threshold somewhere between $600-1000 in total bets. Its based on bets, not winnings. But unlike a casino where nobody's tracking your smaller bets, an online casino tracks everything. The small bets are a massive trap. Meaning those people who sit there on their phones playing for hours, actually are going to lose money when gambling. They'll rack up $100 in total bets, even if they only won $20. Over time, that adds up and you meet the threshold very quickly.

In a casino, you're a small fry and nobody cares or is paying attention unless you win big and try to cash out big. In an online casino on your phone, it's logging every transaction. Some people don't know this, spend hours just playing, not realizing that they racked up potentially thousands in taxable bets. Your losses are deductible up to a certain percentage, but who knows what that sabotaged bill did to this.
 
Meaning those people who sit there on their phones playing for hours, actually are going to lose money when gambling.
"I'll worry about that later, I really need to get a good win and make a payment on my Jeep by tomorrow or else it'll get repoed"

-- Every phone gambler I've ever known
 
The continued enshittification of absolutely everything has forced me to essentially stop eating out altogether, instead of the grocery store I buy direct from a few farmers at a fraction of the cost, stellar customer service and at way higher quality than the vast majority of restaurants.

I didn't want to, they made me. If you're not even going to give me a little reacharound and peck on the lips before fucking me I'll take my money to where it's appreciated.
 
I thought about going to Vegas for a vacation awhile back; I looked up some hotel rooms and found they were charging a "resort tax" that pretty much negated whatever discount they were going to give me. Even local Indian casinos pull that shit now. Last time I was in Vegas, it was the year 2000, which was right after they built all of those fancy theme hotels. It was amazing. Only Caesar's Palace seemed to look a little run down. Now, I bet it's all turned to shit and hasn't been updated in years.
 
>dick people around for the last few years with shitty slot payouts, 6 to 5 blackjack, and triple zero roulette
>
"oh no why doesn't anyone wanna play wid us anymore uwu"

The true degens can just gamble on their phones from home now, you know that right?
And resort fees up the ass, no free drinks when gambling, payed parking everywhere.
 
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