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Wouldn’t be so quick to say that.

How many times did they try to play gotcha games with Trump?

Mark my words, he’ll be mayor.

And if the democrats are smart, they’ll find someone like him to become the President.

How would Americans vote for a Mamdani? Easy. The same way they voted for Trump:

*Focus on making life better for Americans.
*Drain the swamp.
*End foreign adventures.
*Fuck the elites and the billionaires.

And his pro migrant stance will become: “If you haven’t broken the law, make a pathway to work permits.”

It could work, and whoever it is, has to be a fresh face, will likely get enough of the Trump base to win, after Don shafted them and went full retard on Epstein and foreign policy.
If you really think that Trumpians or even Bernie bros will go from "Mass Deportation" to " Muh Stolen Land" ,because trump acted like a fag, then you are delusional.He might try and change his stance over night, but no opponent of his will fail to show voters the various videos and social media posts that exhibit what he really believes. I have no doubt that he has a good chance of winning the mayoral race, but that is new york, half the shit he suggests would be rejected outright in most of the normal states.

Say what you like about trump, but on some issues? He has been quite consistent on his stance for the past 20 years(Immigration, Tariffs).

Keep in mind, the Epstein files are A top issue, not THE top issue, so while they are not happy with trump(as they have every right to be), there is no reason to seede ground on all other policy desires.If trump really pisses them off at the end of his term? Then a Moderate Dem is slated to win, although a Bernie type might be tolerated.
 
Monasteries are where surplus population goes to hide and die; they can't survive without feeder communities. The Church has been all but dead in Asia Minor and North Africa for a long time now. For their part, Jews have been very successful at ridding Israel of Christians as well. It is unlikely to recover in Iraq after the USA assisted Islamic militants in purging them, too. What we've seen with Islam is that when society's central organizing ideology has systematic repression of Christianity at its root, which the Roman Empire did not, Christianity only barely survives.
Reminder that Christianity barely survived the muzzie onslaught thanks to heroes like Charles Martel, Pope Urban II, John Hunyadi, Vlad the Impaler, John Sobieski etc.. Said onslaught also forced them to seek other places to get their resources from - which led to the New World and proselytization soon after.
 
If you really think that Trumpians or even Bernie bros will go from "Mass Deportation" to " Muh Stolen Land"
The mass deportations crowd is probably only what… A third of the base? Don’t forget how many Hispanics voted Trump.

If you present it in the right way and massage the message right, yeah: Many who voted Trump would vote for Mamdani candidate.
(See also former Obama voting Trump voters.)

Instead of “Mass deportations!” You do: “Respect our borders! But a pathway to work permits for law abiding, hardworking migrants!”

And as for all the previous cringe “we’re all colonizers!” You just flip the script and start talking about wages and prices. “Fox News may care about a ten year old tweet… But I care about a fair America with decent wages and kicking out the billionaires and elites who’ve been lying and stealing for decades blah blah”.

“But they won’t buy it!”

Oh yes they will. All the pussygrabbing and other sound bytes never stopped Trump, a NYC billionaire himself, because folks hoped he would shake things up.

You know what DID make a lot of folks go Hey WTF? The Epstein list.

Since Trump cucked out, they’ll go for another non-system candidate.
 
Reminder that Christianity barely survived the muzzie onslaught thanks to heroes like Charles Martel, Pope Urban II, John Hunyadi, Vlad the Impaler, John Sobieski etc.. Said onslaught also forced them to seek other places to get their resources from - which led to the New World and proselytization soon after.
Pluralism only works when the tolerated religions are all close enough to each other to tolerate each other and the state's organizing principle. You can't have universal pluralism, because there are religions like Islam and Marxism that won't tolerate pluralism.
 
Come on, the Muslim guy died in the line of duty. Plenty of reasons to shit on them normally but he didn't do anything wrong
No he didn’t. In order to die in the line of duty you have to actually do your duty, not hide and wait for the terrorist to kill himself.

The shooter had to walk past dozens of police officers to get into that building and NONE of them stopped him despite him openly carrying a rifle.

Even after he started shooting the NYPD decided to rough up the local Free Palestine morons instead of chasing after him. The NYPD are a bunch of corrupt, incompetent, and cowardly commissars who only go after political criminals.
 
If trump really pisses them off at the end of his term? Then a Moderate Dem is slated to win, although a Bernie type might be tolerated
Just reminding you that Trumps victory margin wasn’t all that huge. He doesn’t need to piss off THE ENTIRE base to lose the midterms. Pissing off parts of the base as he has so far is enough.

(And they won’t all go vote for Democrats. Many of them will just stay at home, which is enough.)

As for Moderate Dems? Nah. People are hungry for change, and Inthink they’ll go for a non system Dem in the same way they have Trump a chance.
 
No he didn’t. In order to die in the line of duty you have to actually do your duty, not hide and wait for the terrorist to kill himself.

The shooter had to walk past dozens of police officers to get into that building and NONE of them stopped him despite him openly carrying a rifle.

Even after he started shooting the NYPD decided to rough up the local Free Palestine morons instead of chasing after him. The NYPD are a bunch of corrupt, incompetent, and cowardly commissars who only go after political criminals.
He was shot in the back 6 times
 
He was shot in the back 6 times
Big deal. I would have gotten up, screamed like Goku, and chopped that niggas head off with a samurai sword. Then, before I bled out, I would say something insanely cool like “heh… add another number to the crime rates… of… niggers…blerrg” and proceed to go into the afterlife as a hero and bang hot angles with huge boobs.
 
The mass deportations crowd is probably only what… A third of the base? Don’t forget how many Hispanics voted Trump.
Trump Explicitly ran on "Mass Deportations NOW!"
Instead of “Mass deportations!” You do: “Respect our borders! But a pathway to work permits for law abiding, hardworking migrants!”

And as for all the previous cringe “we’re all colonizers!” You just flip the script and start talking about wages and prices. “Fox News may care about a ten year old tweet… But I care about a fair America with decent wages and kicking out the billionaires and elites who’ve been lying and stealing for decades blah blah”.

“But they won’t buy it!”
Yeah, here's the problem the “Respect our borders! But a pathway to work permits for law abiding, hardworking migrants!” cope was chanted by people who then proceeded to open the borders, there is a reason Dems are not trusted to handle immigration as much according to polling.
Oh yes they will. All the pussygrabbing and other sound bytes never stopped Trump, a NYC billionaire himself, because folks hoped he would shake things up.
In part, another major reason was folks no longer liked or trusted News Orgs and journos.
Just reminding you that Trumps victory margin wasn’t all that huge. He doesn’t need to piss off THE ENTIRE base to lose the midterms. Pissing off parts of the base as he has so far is enough.
I was not talking about the Midterms.For the last 30 years, the party that holds the WH generally loses the House or the senate when the midterms come along.Likely, The house will be lost by the repubs and the senate majority might shrink. Not shocking whatsoever, if people are still pissed off about Epstein till then(Unlikely as voters tend to have the memory of gold fish) then it might even be worse for the Republicans.But keep in mind that the Dems have an even worse approval raiting as a party, and the election is still a year away.
As for Moderate Dems? Nah. People are hungry for change, and Inthink they’ll go for a non system Dem in the same way they have Trump a chance.
Sure. But hungry for change does not equate to electing a commie globohomo retard.New york is not equal to the rest of the country, as many folks actually like their country and want to leave something for their children.
 
The supreme court ruled against nationwide injunctions. The lower court immediately certified a class action which has the same effect. Everyone involved knew this would be the next step and some of the conservative justicies even wrote about that problem in their opinion.
And that class? All persons unborn or potentially to exist at some future date. It's insane and won't stand.
 
If you really think that Trumpians or even Bernie bros will go from "Mass Deportation" to " Muh Stolen Land" ,because trump acted like a fag, then you are delusional.He might try and change his stance over night, but no opponent of his will fail to show voters the various videos and social media posts that exhibit what he really believes. I have no doubt that he has a good chance of winning the mayoral race, but that is new york, half the shit he suggests would be rejected outright in most of the normal states.

Say what you like about trump, but on some issues? He has been quite consistent on his stance for the past 20 years(Immigration, Tariffs).

Keep in mind, the Epstein files are A top issue, not THE top issue, so while they are not happy with trump(as they have every right to be), there is no reason to seede ground on all other policy desires.If trump really pisses them off at the end of his term? Then a Moderate Dem is slated to win, although a Bernie type might be tolerated.
Trump bailing on the Epstein list is a massive, permanent black eye but if the Epstein list is one's "single issue voter" line in the sand then that's pretty retarded.
 
Trump bailing on the Epstein list is a massive, permanent black eye but if the Epstein list is one's "single issue voter" line in the sand then that's pretty retarded.
The people chimping out because they're sure the Little Black Book of Pedos exists, and Trump is just hiding it to cover for Israel, is about the same size as the people who chimped out when he didn't cancel all aid to Israel.
 
I was not talking about the Midterms.For the last 30 years, the party that holds the WH generally loses the House or the senate when the midterms come along.Likely, The house will be lost by the repubs and the senate majority might shrink.
Lose the midterms, lose the election. Trump will either get impeached, or they’ll bury him in hearings and bullshit. You know it, I know it.
Not shocking whatsoever, if people are still pissed off about Epstein till then(Unlikely as voters tend to have the memory of gold fish) then it might even be worse for the Republicans.
Pretty sure that the voters who remembered Epstein years after, and liked what they were hearing about releasing the Epstein list will remember. And conclude that Trump sold out and stay home. That’s why it was so retarded when he attacked them.
Trump Explicitly ran on "Mass Deportations NOW!"
What are “mass deportations?” If you’re talking about “Deport everyone who’s in America illegally, no matter how long they’ve been here”, polls show that it’s 30-35% who support that.

If you’re talking about “Deport SOME or MANY illegals” it’s around 50%.

So there’s lots of room for someone to be the mature adult pretending to fix the system.
But keep in mind that the Dems have an even worse approval raiting as a party, and the election is still a year away.
That’s why I’m saying a non system Dem will win.

Trump bailing on the Epstein list is a massive, permanent black eye but if the Epstein list is one's "single issue voter" line in the sand then that's pretty retarded.
Nobody is a single issue Epstein voter, in the same way that nobody will go: “I’m ok with Trump defending pedos because no tax on tips!” but it’s a litmus test for many. Either you’re part of the corrupt elites, or you’re not.

Folks voted for Trump because they believed he wasn’t. When he buck broke on it, they’re likely to stay home, because fuck the system: Dem and GOP alike.
 
So there’s lots of room for someone to be the mature adult pretending to fix the system.
Yeah and that ain't you. You're a European who has never been to the US trying to lecture Americans how to fix their system. We have enough retarded commies trying to fuck our shit up, we don't need your help.
 
The people chimping out because they're sure the Little Black Book of Pedos exists, and Trump is just hiding it to cover for Israel, is about the same size as the people who chimped out when he didn't cancel all aid to Israel.
Plus the moslems unhappy about Gaza (There goes Michigan!) Plus all the American First types who don’t like foreign wars and help to Ukraine, plus all the fiscal conservatives, it all adds up.

PROTIP: You win elections by building coalitions, not by going “Meh, it’s not that many people who care about X”.

Trumps margin was never that huge to begin with.

Yeah and that ain't you. You're a European who has never been to the US trying to lecture Americans how to fix their system. We have enough retarded commies trying to fuck our shit up, we don't need your help.
Cute. And wrong. ;)
 
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