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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Overly Serious said:
e. But until that happens, raw numbers are just not how societies compete. Even if it ends up in war, it comes down to organisation, logistics, morale and technology more than numbers.
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That's not true. Germany was considered to have the best army in the world and it lost to Russians sending so many bodies the Germans ran out of bullets to fight them. The Russians are famous for this tactic and it worked against an other wise superior force.
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People just aren't willing to have kids because they're depressed, over-worked, cramped up and feel they can't afford to raise them properly.
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That's bullshit though. Most of us have a grandparent who were poor and still had multiple kids and raised them well. They made do with what they had and made it work. Which is the attitude we need to get back to instead of "I can't buy Jimmy a new iPad every year so I'm not ready to be a parent". Birth control lets you constantly put off having kids until it's too late instead of having children and getting on with it like we did throughout our history. We currently live in a homosexual society where reproduction is divorced from sex and consequences of sex. So all the stunted people who would grow up and mature if they were made into parents instead play Nintendo all day and end up building Lego kits in their parents bed room.

Life needs consequences or people never grow.

There are major issues with hormone based birth control getting into the water and how it impacts women taking it. It's not just a turn off pregnancy thing. It impacts their personalities, their decision making, their partner selection. It's nasty stuff we use for hedonism with no consequences. And if people have to use condoms to fuck instead of taking a pill then fine. Birth control is a bad solution to a non-problem.
 
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Kofi Drinka said:
That's not true. Germany was considered to have the best army in the world and it lost to Russians sending so many bodies the Germans ran out of bullets to fight them. The Russians are famous for this tactic and it worked against an other wise superior force.
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Lets just ignore the whole OTHER front where Germany was fighting Britain, the USA, France at the same time and the fact that they had the Turks on their side. Unless you mean WWII in which case all the same except this time they were saddled with the Italians. And really you just prove my point - in WWII, Russia lost twenty-million people to the Germans. Is that really how you imagine the British people should conduct warfare? German forces on the Eastern front were a fraction of Russia's and were fighting on Russia's home territory for most of it. I say war today is rarely a game of raw number of bodies and your counter-example is Russia's colossal losses against a significantly smaller number of Germans? Poor choice.

Kofi Drinka said:
That's bullshit though. Most of us have a grandparent who were poor and still had multiple kids and raised them well. They made do with what they had and made it work. Which is the attitude we need to get back to instead of "I can't buy Jimmy a new iPad every year so I'm not ready to be a parent". Birth control lets you constantly put off having kids until it's too late instead of having children and getting on with it like we did throughout our history. We currently live in a homosexual society where reproduction is divorced from sex and consequences of sex. So all the stunted people who would grow up and mature if they were made into parents instead play Nintendo all day and end up building Lego kits in their parents bed room.
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People's grandparents were having multiple kids because huge numbers had been killed off in WWII and you could buy a house back then and get a job. The government conducted mass immigration programs precisely because the working class had too much power over employers and the property owning class. You want to see what deprived childhood with shitty education and no opportunities looks like, walk around any number of places in this country and you wont see this glorious restoration of England you hope for. You'll see hopelessness, poverty, multi-generational unemployed. And you want to force-accelerate that? Out of what - the idea that everyone is going to become some foot soldier in your envisaged race war? That's not going to happen.

Governments rarely fear the poor. It's the Middle Class who scare them because the Middle Class have the luxury of education and time to organise and self-inform. That's why they do whatever they can to try and drive a wedge between the Middle and Working class. For example by trying to abolish any sense of ethnic identity they have in common.

They're trying to do currently to the Middle Class what they did to the Working Class - undermine their power by importing workers. They simply couldn't do it until now because there weren't the people to import for those jobs. But Starmer has just signed a deal with India to import huge numbers to do so and set it up economically to advantage the immigrants.

I'm not arguing with you out of some naivety or ideological grounds. I'm saying that what you want wont work. Promote the nuclear family as much as you like - that's a good thing. But trying to alter the birth rate by reducing the amount of control people have over it, is not your path to that. If anything it would work against the nuclear family and send single-parent households through the roof.

Kofi Drinka said:
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I'm not hugely in favour of throwing babies at people in the hope they learn responsibility.


EDIT: Now maybe a return to the copper coil over the dodgy hormones of the pill might not be a bad thing.
 
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teriyakiburns said:
This "line go up" thinking is why we're in this situation to begin with. The British Isles were already massively over-populated in the 70s and the population was beginning to shrink by the mid 80s as a natural response to that. It should have been allowed to continue. Population would have shrunk slowly, stabilised, and started to grow again towards the end of the 21st century. Instead, successive governments have pursued constant, perpetual population growth in order to ensure a constant, perpetual increase in GDP, which meant importing foreign labour. Literally none of these people would be here, if not for this belief that population must always increase.
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I think the real litmus test is Japan. Their replacement levels are shocking but they have no intent to drastically import a bomillion niggers to fix that, they're just holding tight and eventually the problem solves itself.

If a population shrinks you need less social services, you need less houses, you need less doctors, you need less police etc. It's possible to see that change coming 10 years away and slowly shape a country around that.

Whereas the UK has easily the most retarded method of fixing population demographics. We're growing in population year by year but also freezing the civil service, freezing police, freezing doctor and nurse hirings, freezing council numbers etc. Every single year more people are competing for the same level of houses and doctors and dentists and putting more pressure on every existing service there is. Yes I'm aware we're building houses, but DRASTICALLY under population growth numbers, and that's only counting official figures.

Which is another thing. If I'm an Indian student and come to the UK to study and then say I've left the UK when I haven't and instead work an underground job for 10 years, I'm invisible to UK statistics. I'm only going to be discovered when I'm hospitalised and the NHS is by rights required to save my life despite not putting a penny into the UK for 10 years.
 
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Overly Serious said:
People's grandparents were having multiple kids because huge numbers had been killed off in WWII and you could buy a house back then and get a job.
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If you deport all the pakis and niggers you have a surplus of houses again. This is basic supply and demand.
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
I think the real litmus test is Japan. Their replacement levels are shocking but they have no intent to drastically import a bomillion niggers to fix that, they're just holding tight and eventually the problem solves itself.
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Japan is importing foreigners on mass. Weebs haven't paid attention to Tokyo lately if they think Japan is any better off than we are.
 
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Pinch, punch, first of the month and still on the 'Farms:

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Drivers racing through red lights to avoid delays at lifting bridge in Lowestoft prompts urgent warning from police:




Plus...

GB News is now Britain's No1 news channel!


 
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Kofi Drinka said:
If you deport all the pakis and niggers you have a surplus of houses again. This is basic supply and demand.
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In this scenario, people will now be more willing to have children. Ergo as @Otterly was saying - it's not about outlawing birth control but removing the blocks to having kids. Forcing people to have kids without removing the things that stop them wanting kids is not going to lead to anywhere good. And what even would removing birth control mean? Is the rhythm method now outlawed? Is the sin of Onan to be prosecuted as per Biblical times? Will the old Wise Woman be carted off to stop her dispensing her special herbs to young unmarried women?

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GB News is now Britain's No1 news channel!
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They can probably thank you for that! ;)

I still recall an article saying how it would fail. I think it was in the Spectator. Let that be a lesson to anyone who thinks they can't get off the ground and change things.

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Overly Serious said:
it's not about outlawing birth control but removing the blocks to having kids. Forcing people to have kids without removing the things that stop them wanting kids is not going to lead to anywhere good.
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What do you think happens on birth control? Do you think it makes women who's bodies are already being told they're pregnant to have kids? What about the miscarriages that happen when it fails but birth control causes a miscarriage? Do you think it does women good to spend their late teens into early 30s being faux pregnant and yet never having a child?

Birth control is often a block to wanting kids. It's not a magic pill with no side effects.

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GB News is now Britain's No1 news channel!
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10% ahead of the rivals in most time slots.

They're looking to open a Washington studio which is concerning. GB news being GB focused is one of it's strength. If it goes global it'll become like all the other ones.
 
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Kofi Drinka said:
That's bullshit though. Most of us have a grandparent who were poor and still had multiple kids and raised them well. They made do with what they had and made it work.
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They did, and they;
A. Were incredibly poor.
B. Had communities. My parents generation after the war had large families, and in cases where a parent died the kids were sent to other relations who already had multiple kids. There was a whole community to raise children, and there was, after the war, a massive sense of optimism. Things were getting better. The slums were being cleared, there were council houses with indoor plumbing. There was a new nhs. And there were a lot of dead who left space.
If we just take the birth control away we still have no communities, we have overcrowded conditions and depressing conditions
 
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The reality is this, right now the average person seems to be spending 2/3 of their net wage on their mortgage, home insurance, water, gas, council tax and electricity.

That one third of their remaining wage has to go towards food any anything else.

How the absolute fuck does anyone expect anyone to add child expenses to that 1/3 given that one of the two will presumably have to quit their job and look after the kid as childcare is ridiculous.
 
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Otterly said:
If we just take the birth control away we still have no communities, we have overcrowded conditions and depressing conditions
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What do you think changes if you remove the alien elements and have a government actively encouraging communities instead of destroying them?
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
The reality is this, right now the average person seems to be spending 2/3 of their net wage on their mortgage, home insurance, water, gas, council tax and electricity.

That one third of their remaining wage has to go towards food any anything else.

How the absolute fuck does anyone expect anyone to add child expenses to that 1/3 given that one of the two will presumably have to quit their job and look after the kid as childcare is ridiculous.
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Your estimate is way off.

How many pakis are shitting out kids non-stop and managing to make it work? How many niggers? "Sorry I'm too white to have children. I need more money" while the poorest people in the country are constantly breeding and raising kids to adulthood. You slave away day after day to pay for your replacement and when someone suggests you have kids it's "No thank you, I'm British".

It's that attitude which demands birth control be revoked. If they can do it, you can do it but everyone wants to act like they're the middle class now.
 
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Kofi Drinka said:
How many pakis are shitting out kids non-stop and managing to make it work? How many niggers? "Sorry I'm too white to have children. I need more money" while the poorest people in the country are constantly breeding and raising kids to adulthood.
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Because there's almost an entirely different system in play between people who have more than 16k in assets and those who don't.

If I didn't have a job and had no money I could get JSA or whatever the fuck it's called now, if me and my partner were diagnosed with a mental health condition we could apply to be each others carers and get carers allowance. If we could squeeze enough out of it we'd get PIP too as well as council tax discounts, access to cheaper broadband deals and a host of other things. Hell if we spent all of our money on fags and beer we could go to the food bank and get enough food to last the weekend. Every single penny of all of this by the way is tax free.

So all this money and no work to go to so no wonder the poor can shit out kid after kid after kid.

Whereas if I had a job and so did my partner the only thing out of all that I'd be eligible for is PIP as I'd be working too many hours to get carers allowance. Me and my partner would be working 40 hours a week, if we're on different schedules we might not see each other as much as we want and 1/3 of our income is taken away as tax before we even begin to do anything. We COULD move to a shithole area with no jobs, buy a cheap house in a shithole area with Somalians either side of our house and use a combination of savings and single income to potentially raise a kid but that'd require moving across the entire country, cutting off entire social networks and so on.

The UK would be a much better place if everyone who has been on benefits for 10 years or more were involuntarily euthanised. The entire UK population is being propped up by Pakis, dole scum and terminal PIP folk.
 
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Overly Serious said:
EDIT: Now maybe a return to the copper coil over the dodgy hormones of the pill might not be a bad thing.
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Only if they start putting women under anaesthetic or giving them strong painkillers for IUD insertion. Anything touching your cervix is painful as hell but for some reason women's reproductive health specifically is the one field where doctors are like "painkillers? anaesthesia? lol nah I'll just go in raw". My sister knows a woman whose IUD got wedged in at a funny angle and was causing her problems but whenever the doctors attempt to remove it they don't bother using any painkillers or anaesthetic and its excruciating so at this point she's just given up on ever having it removed and is just gonna leave it there forever.
 
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FedPostalService said:
We need to kill the poor.
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I don't think giving any British government the legal framework to kill the poor would end well. The government would just put introduce some bullshit act to debank people who say things they don't like for "national security" reasons alongside it and now you have a de-facto way for the government to execute anyone it doesn't like for being a leech on society.
 
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