Canada is a failed state

[Betonhaus]

Accelerationism won't work because Liberal Democracy will shed democracy before it sheds liberalism.

Look at the UK and what they're doing- the moment they feel threatened they'll never allow conservatives back in and will go full 1984, even if renouncing globohomo and mass immigration is simpler and actually beneficial.

That being said, if the US manages to retain a Republican government through 2028, perhaps there could be an American expeditionary force into Canada?

It might be a search and rescue force if the economy implodes

 

[NorthernPickle53]

Has anyone brought up how Filthy and Disgusting Toronto Hospitals are? I’m not sure if it is like this for other cities, but my Aunt went to the hospital for a leg infection and the hospital she went to had literal Third World Country living conditions and people being neglected in the hallways. Another great job from the people in Toronto.

 

[Betonhaus]

Has anyone brought up how Filthy and Disgusting Toronto Hospitals are? I’m not sure if it is like this for other cities, but my Aunt went to the hospital for a leg infection and the hospital she went to had literal Third World Country living conditions and people being neglected in the hallways. Another great job from the people in Toronto.

Is that the one where people were complaining about the cleaning staff believing in Magic water thay didn't need soap or replacing with clean water once in a while?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Has anyone brought up how Filthy and Disgusting Toronto Hospitals are? I’m not sure if it is like this for other cities, but my Aunt went to the hospital for a leg infection and the hospital she went to had literal Third World Country living conditions and people being neglected in the hallways. Another great job from the people in Toronto.

Yes.

Yes.

And yes.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Meanwhile as for tariff news the segment they had on it had to admit that it made $65 billion for the American govt this year alone and said outright that the American consumer will pay more for luxury goods and there is a recession projected for Canada next year.

It's been been talked about to death & everyone here knows it, but it really can't be emphasized enough:

Domestic tariffs aren't paid by foreign exporters, they are paid by YOU the citizen in higher purchasing costs for imports.

So all those MAGA morons south of the border cheering on Trump everytime he bleats about raising tariffs higher & higher can't do the simple math that the $65 billion raised (and immediately wasted on government pork) was a tax directly on your on CoL

Tariffs only benefit you domestically if it reshores local manufacturing. Which in Canada, hasn't happened at all & won't. While the American case is similarly dubious but at least possible in theory.

Has anyone brought up how Filthy and Disgusting Toronto Hospitals are?

I recall years ago going to visit a dying loved one on the cancer ward.

Their IV drip was MacGyvered to function by an elastic band strapping a plastic fork from the cafeteria to the pole.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

It's been been talked about to death & everyone here knows it, but it really can't be emphasized enough:

Domestic tariffs aren't paid by foreign exporters, they are paid by YOU the citizen in higher purchasing costs for imports.

So all those MAGA morons south of the border cheering on Trump everytime he bleats about raising tariffs higher & higher can't do the simple math that the $65 billion raised (and immediately wasted on government pork) was a tax directly on your on CoL

Tariffs only benefit you domestically if it reshores local manufacturing. Which in Canada, hasn't happened at all & won't. While the American case is similarly dubious but at least possible in theory.



I recall years ago going to visit a dying loved one on the cancer ward.

Their IV drip was MacGyvered to function by an elastic band strapping a plastic fork from the cafeteria to the pole.

Which is why counter tariff is retarded. Canada's economy of scale is just too small.

Prices will go up in the short term but will collapse once the demand tapers off.

Then Canada is in a deep shit.

 

[Crackersandfleas]

I don't doubt it. When I was on welfare, I had to log into an online portal every month and it asked me:

• Did you leave the province in the past 30 months?
• If so, for how long?

If you left the province for a prolonged period of time, you'd stop getting welfare. There's no actual verification that you stayed in the province. As long as you say that you didn't leave, you'll keep getting welfare benefits. The only time you ever have to talk to someone from the welfare office is once (or rarely twice) a year about your plans for the future.

If someone wanted to, they could go on welfare, leave the country, and never tell the welfare office. They'd keep getting benefits. The welfare offices and the bureaucrats that work in them are very overworked and they don't have the time or prerogative to actually check in on welfare recipients. This was back in 2022 though, so I'm assuming like everything else in Canada, it's gotten way worse since then.

Sounds about right. IIRC the scam worked because the elderly fraudster would have a relative still living in Canada, my guess is to act as a "local" to handle the phone interviews and paperwork with the welfare office to make it appear the person was still there.

Allowing pajeets to leave India is the biggest mistake in modern history. It will be all of our downfalls.

 

[Crackersandfleas]

Domestic tariffs aren't paid by foreign exporters, they are paid by YOU the citizen in higher purchasing costs for imports.

We all know that by this point. But it also stifles purchases from the countries under tariff which provides them less revenue than before. In some cases I'm fine with this. I remember Duhhhhbya Bush saying that opening up trade with China would force them to become a democracy in the long run. It didn't. They're arguably more powerful and dangerous than they were in 2000.

And now, 25 years later, I can't find the random "made in usa" construction parts I could still find back in 2000. Lots of oddball electrical, plumbing and construction supplies were still domestic up until the last decade or so. China purposely killed that by unfairly subsidizing their industries until ours collapsed, you don't think the next step in their plan is to cut us off now that we no longer have our own suppliers?

And their obsession with Taiwan is borderline insane, like a hyper-jealous ex-boyfriend. China has more opportunity than ever to do way more productive things than worry about one tiny island that claims to still be the real China. But they obsess about it despite it not being all that important in the grand scheme of things.

And don't get me started about China unfairly pegging its dogshit currency to ours for decades which fucked over generations of young Americans. Oh well, we got "cheap" technology out of it--the same technology thats currently frying the brains of the youngest generations. Oh boy, what a great tradeoff. Maybe we should've allowed that technology to slowly integrate organically. No, I don't want to use my cell phone to scan a QR code to view your goddamn menu and I don't care if some pajeet CEO doesn't get paid if QR codes FINALLY DIE.

And plenty of European countries benefitted from the post cold-war period of America being way to nice. Now most of those countries aren't even European now by race. Its the new middle east filled with violent shit skins and most of the population is fine with that.

I don't like tariffs either but I don't like all the bullshit scams the worlds been running on us for decades. No, American's aren't the only ones who suffer from them, we're just the ones that pay. The exporters suffer to. The workers suffer. Time for all of you foreigner's who took advantage of us to suffer. Enjoy.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

America is not some economic zone for the world to exploit it's time to pay the fuck up. Ones who are the least cooperative get the highest tariff, like Canada.

Should have been a lot higher.

 

[Crackersandfleas]

America is not some economic zone for the world to exploit it's time to pay the fuck up. Ones who are the least cooperative get the highest tariff, like Canada.

Should have been a lot higher.

And the tariff on India should include services like out-sourcing call centers. We should also be passing laws prohibiting ANY personal data from being transmitted to these shithole countries. Thats where the scams start.

Trump and the GOP are to cowardly to do these things despite many of us, including MAGA, demanding it.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Been quietly stalking X and the usual gaggle of idiots defending Carney are moving the goalposts again to make it look like a win. Some are staying it is because he's not "giving in" to extortion and intimidation while others are claiming it was never a big deal in the first place because it only affects non-USCMA goods (around 10-15% of exports). If that were the case, then why did they treat it like an existential threat months earlier? The truth is that a plurality voted for Carney's Liberals because he promised that he was the only one with the necessary skills to negotiate a deal with Trump. The truth is that the UK, Japan, EU, and others managed to negotiate deals with the Trump administration. Maybe not so beneficial for them, but better than if they took a hardline stance.

Canada. Canada has shown an uncanny affinity for inflicting self-harm on itself for the last decade for the most absurd of reasons. First it was for virtue signaling and validation from Trudeau's UN/WEF cohorts, and now it's solely out of spite for one man. Our ruling class are unserious ideologues and too much of the populace is either too apathetic, ignorant, or complacent (or some combination of the three) to truly hold the elites to account. What they want is to keep the decaying status quo intact. Carney's Liberals most likely bungled this because they expected the US to accede to our demands without giving any concessions in return. They better hope that protecting the dairy cartel was worth it.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I guess we will have to live with no deal til next year. Pretty terrible way to negotiate....from the point of weakness...


By next year, all the businesses will move to USA before USMCA collapses....

 

[PaleTay]

I don't doubt it. When I was on welfare, I had to log into an online portal every month and it asked me:

• Did you leave the province in the past 30 months?
• If so, for how long?

If you left the province for a prolonged period of time, you'd stop getting welfare. There's no actual verification that you stayed in the province. As long as you say that you didn't leave, you'll keep getting welfare benefits. The only time you ever have to talk to someone from the welfare office is once (or rarely twice) a year about your plans for the future.

If someone wanted to, they could go on welfare, leave the country, and never tell the welfare office. They'd keep getting benefits. The welfare offices and the bureaucrats that work in them are very overworked and they don't have the time or prerogative to actually check in on welfare recipients. This was back in 2022 though, so I'm assuming like everything else in Canada, it's gotten way worse since then.

There can be verification for some benefits, but it gets challenging with jeets because of how ties to countries or provinces work. Realistically, when they will take a closer look is when someone tries to backdate something, usually filing 5+ years of taxes.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Domestic tariffs aren't paid by foreign exporters, they are paid by YOU the citizen in higher purchasing costs for imports.

Cry moar, leaf.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Cry moar, leaf.

All the "Elbows Up!" Carney boomers are even more economically illiterate about the tariffs than the MAGA folk.

They vote for Liberal retaliatory tariffs than go all Surprised_Pikachu_Face when their morning Orange Juice that can't grow here goes to $15 dollars a pint.

Then they blame the "greedy Canadian grocery store conglomerates" for price-fixing, declaring a boycott where they vow to only shop Canadian at Walmart & Costco fron now on.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Serious country



Meanwhile fat fuck Doug Ford was discussing 100k work permits to rapefugees.

I fucking hate this country with passion. I fucking hate it so much.

 

[harbringer883]

Has anyone brought up how Filthy and Disgusting Toronto Hospitals are? I’m not sure if it is like this for other cities, but my Aunt went to the hospital for a leg infection and the hospital she went to had literal Third World Country living conditions and people being neglected in the hallways. Another great job from the people in Toronto.

My great grandmother was offered maid while she was recovering from a surgery. 10/10 healthcare system.

Been quietly stalking X and the usual gaggle of idiots defending Carney are moving the goalposts again to make it look like a win. Some are staying it is because he's not "giving in" to extortion and intimidation while others are claiming it was never a big deal in the first place because it only affects non-USCMA goods (around 10-15% of exports). If that were the case, then why did they treat it like an existential threat months earlier? The truth is that a plurality voted for Carney's Liberals because he promised that he was the only one with the necessary skills to negotiate a deal with Trump. The truth is that the UK, Japan, EU, and others managed to negotiate deals with the Trump administration. Maybe not so beneficial for them, but better than if they took a hardline stance.

Canada. Canada has shown an uncanny affinity for inflicting self-harm on itself for the last decade for the most absurd of reasons. First it was for virtue signaling and validation from Trudeau's UN/WEF cohorts, and now it's solely out of spite for one man. Our ruling class are unserious ideologues and too much of the populace is either too apathetic, ignorant, or complacent (or some combination of the three) to truly hold the elites to account. What they want is to keep the decaying status quo intact. Carney's Liberals most likely bungled this because they expected the US to accede to our demands without giving any concessions in return. They better hope that protecting the dairy cartel was worth it.

I saw redditors coping by saying that "Carney is focusing on domestic issues first guys! Its 4d chess! He's going to crush trump when he gets to it!"

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

It's so fucking funny. Reddit Canadians think they are standing up to trump. Holy shit insanity.

 

[The ATF Disliked That]

I saw redditors coping by saying that "Carney is focusing on domestic issues first guys! Its 4d chess! He's going to crush trump when he gets to it!"

Redditors got fucking bamboozled by some Zurich university's AI chatbot. all their opinions are moot.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Stupid fucking Canadians too retarded to realize what the fuck is happening