Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

There’s definitely some legit POTS? Not denying that but it’s such an easy thing for munchies to latch onto and can force the symptoms.

When I was in university, there was a student in my cohort who had POTS. This was like 20 years ago. Poor girl would go legit grey and just faint. Good practice for us nursing students 🙃 I remember she ended up on an SSRI because she started getting anxious about the unpredictability of the episodes because it was embarrassing for her. She still did sport, went to uni, etc though. None of this wheelchair shit.
 
None of this wheelchair shit.
I'm pretty sure the wheelchair and saline IV stuff has zero actual long term benefits and is most likely actively harmful. There's no need for IV saline, where are you loosing blood? It's relentlessly nonsensical.

I'll take a look myself, but does anyone know who came up with it? I bet there's a real interesting quack pushing it.

Side note, I'm actually reading Never Bet Against Occam at the moment- by Dr Afrin, who pulled the idea of MCAS out of his ass. It’s kind of a white-woman-munchie bible to beat their doctors with. I'll collect and share the most amusing quotes to save others from having to read it too.
 
My friends, let me introduce you to Birdy (pronouns are they/them/retard and uses the royal “we”)

Birdy is a functionally retarded munchie on tiktok that I stumbled upon because she claims she’s allergic to saline. The infusion center gave her saline instead of lactated ringers and she had a reaction. Definitely unrelated, lactated ringers are just saline with electrolytes.
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Other collected diagnoses:
-~professionally diagnosed~ Dissociative Identity Disorder (hence the ‘we’)
-POTS
-Fibromyalgia
-Endometriosis
-Autism
-Dysautonomia

Actual diagnosis in my professional opinion as a munchie scientist:

-Cluster B personality disorder
-Low blood pressure
-Genuine retardation (IQ below 75)


 
I'm pretty sure the wheelchair and saline IV stuff has zero actual long term benefits and is most likely actively harmful. There's no need for IV saline, where are you loosing blood? It's relentlessly nonsensical.
I barely hear about POTS munchies in my Eurocuck country unless it’s from someone who also claims chronic fatigue or long covid. I have a theory that it’s because they won’t get IV saline here, instantly making the diagnosis less alluring. ”Work out” and ”drink gatorade” are very boring treatments to munch.

A Scandi powerchair pooner I watch recently got her IV saline privileges revoked (the doctors thought the same as you) and she has been complaining about it ever since. The medical system has failed me and now I will rot to death in my bed, I can’t live without my salt water, etc etc.
 
@RookTheFanatic and @pensacola - POTS is another one of those conditions that can be a side effect (maybe you are taking drugs that lower your BP or raise your heartbeat), a symptom of another illness (multi system atrophy, peripheral neuropathy), and it can be dx’d as a syndrome on its own. Like chronic fatigue, which can be a real problem for people undergoing chemotherapy, or with heart disease or autoimmune disease, but can also be a side effect of depression or a consequence of poor lifestyle factors.

POTS at its most basic is an observable phenomenon with clear parameters (unlike fatigue which is subjective) - in certain situations (postural) when moving from standing to sitting (orthostatic) your heart rate increases by more than 30 bpm (tachycardia). This can be accompanied by low blood pressure, which can cause people to faint, and this on its own (without the tachycardia) is orthostatic hypotension.

Whether a dx in its own right or a side effect or symptom, it is highly treatable. You can lower the heart rate with beta blockers, and you can raise the blood pressure with drugs like Florinef or midodrine. Drinking more electrolytes is also number one advice - ideally 3 litres a day of oral fluid.

Now, the waifs with their saline and ports are something we don’t see on my side of the fence and I’m kind of amazed it is so prevalent in the US. Unless you have intestinal failure, or a high-output stoma, or another type of dysautonomia that impacts your body’s ability to balance fluid, you don’t need saline.

Even with these conditions, the first line of treatment is to exhaust other options like increased oral intake and medication. You pretty much need to be at risk of kidney failure, or hypovolemic shock, to get regular access. It is rare, but it does happen and in these situations a port and regular IV hydration is needed but it is supportive, not curative.

As for needing a wheelchair, that is just insane. No legit doctor would recommend it. All it will do is decondition them further - the Levine Protocol is a highly recommended exercise program for POTS that builds muscle in the legs so they can better pump blood when standing. Claiming they need a wheelchair for safety is also BS, as they would only get faint when moving positions and you get pre-syncope. The first time someone faints it might take them by surprise, but after that people learn the signs, and get low while blood pressure restores.

So, yeah, tldr, POTS as a side effect / symptom / syndrome is a real thing but it is highly treatable with minimally invasive methods. There are instances where saline is needed but this is due to serious dysautonomia or intestinal function compromise.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk 😂

@poopinmy_line ⭐ LOL at being allergic to saline and not realising Hartmann’s is saline based. She is comedy gold!
 
My friends, let me introduce you to Birdy (pronouns are they/them/retard and uses the royal “we”)

Birdy is a functionally retarded munchie on tiktok that I stumbled upon because she claims she’s allergic to saline. The infusion center gave her saline instead of lactated ringers and she had a reaction. Definitely unrelated, lactated ringers are just saline with electrolytes.
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Other collected diagnoses:
-~professionally diagnosed~ Dissociative Identity Disorder (hence the ‘we’)
-POTS
-Fibromyalgia
-Endometriosis
-Autism
-Dysautonomia

Actual diagnosis in my professional opinion as a munchie scientist:

-Cluster B personality disorder
-Low blood pressure
-Genuine retardation (IQ below 75)
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I looked at the comments under the “allergic to saline but not lactated fingers” and fortunately the comments were almost entirely people calling her out on her bullshit, along with “healthcare workers here, people like you make us want to quit our jobs.”

She made a rebuttal post and it too is full of comments calling her out on her bullshit.

Another observation: holy shit her teeth are terrible. And the post with the black lipstick saying ‘let’s be mutuals’ looks like actual clown paint.
 
Tonight’s main event! A munch-off for the ages! A battle to the death (by anaphylaxis)!

In one corner - she’s 700 pounds of power chair and rage - it’s Victoria ”Spicy Mayo” Markhoff! And in the other, making her debut as a one-person tag team, it’s ”The Lactated Ringer” Cluster B Birdy!

Who will win: allergic to electrolytes, or allergic to saline? Place your bets now, people.

I’m sorry. This is so dumb
 
Tonight’s main event! A munch-off for the ages! A battle to the death (by anaphylaxis)!

In one corner - she’s 700 pounds of power chair and rage - it’s Victoria ”Spicy Mayo” Markhoff! And in the other, making her debut as a one-person tag team, it’s ”The Lactated Ringer” Cluster B Birdy!

Who will win: allergic to electrolytes, or allergic to saline? Place your bets now, people.

I’m sorry. This is so dumb
Victoria would win, she would just run Cluster B Birdy over.
 
I am including some choice responses to the allergy tiktoks here. I may find tiktok in general to be retarded, but man is it fucking entertaining. People are ganging up on Birdie, love seeing people calling out her doctor for placing a port for literally just hydration.

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She forces those poor nurses at the infusion center to go out of their way to make four flushes from the lactated ringers especially for her. I know they do it just because they don't want her to throw a tantrum. She is 100% the freak patient of this center.

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I'm doing some digging to see if I can get a more complete history on this trainwreck.
 
I saw in the “news” that Justin Timberlake is claiming Lyme disease, presumably to distract from/excuse all the reports of his shows being lacklustre. I don’t have the skills or attention span to mine the comments, but a quick glance showed a bunch of munch in there, if anyone is interested in looking for new subjects.
 
I’m super late here but you’re the one referring to FUCKING CAROLE WITH DORRANCE NO 5 STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS from 1996! Carole was later revealed to be a strongly haired old man troon who wheeled himself in his unecessary wheelchair around the Walmart pantys n socks department trying to get women to help him hook up his bra because he has DORRANCE NO 5 STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS for hands. God I miss alt.tasteless and how soft and naive I was back then.
Had never heard this followup before somehow, in all the time I've been familiar with those damn stainless steel hooks - do you have a link or anything?
 
I’m super late here but you’re the one referring to FUCKING CAROLE WITH DORRANCE NO 5 STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS from 1996! Carole was later revealed to be a strongly haired old man troon who wheeled himself in his unecessary wheelchair around the Walmart pantys n socks department trying to get women to help him hook up his bra because he has DORRANCE NO 5 STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS for hands. God I miss alt.tasteless and how soft and naive I was back then.
Had never heard this followup before somehow, in all the time I've been familiar with those damn stainless steel hooks - do you have a link or anything?
Redditors think they found her.
TL;DR She gave her last name in one of her posts--Zakrzewski. Her name now is Carole Anzovin. She's in her 40s, from New England, and if you google her she's got the thick glasses she referenced in her writings. But there's no evidence of her being involved with amputation fetishes anymore.
 
I saw in the “news” that Justin Timberlake is claiming Lyme disease, presumably to distract from/excuse all the reports of his shows being lacklustre. I don’t have the skills or attention span to mine the comments, but a quick glance showed a bunch of munch in there, if anyone is interested in looking for new subjects.
You beat me to it! Just came to post about this. It doesn’t seem clear to me if it is actual bit-by-a-tick Lyme or the woo chronic bs type. I did get this helpful list from People of other “famous” people with Lyme. A mix of actual and chronic. I feel bad for the ones with actual Lyme who get lumped in with the crazies. Plus it must be really hard to find legitimate support and resources that are science based.

Celebrities with Lyme

Lisa Stansfield once claimed to be allergic to her own saliva.

Someone once told me that was a real thing, but this person was probably a munchie themselves. Plausible (auto-immune disease in the salivary glands?) or bullshit?
Oral Allergy Syndrome is the closest I could find. This is when you are allergic to allergens in saliva rather than saliva itself. There’s also the extremely rare aquagenic urticaria where you are allergic to water, including water in saliva. It sounds like a special kind of hell.

Aquagenic Urticaria
 
Redditors think they found her.
TL;DR She gave her last name in one of her posts--Zakrzewski. Her name now is Carole Anzovin. She's in her 40s, from New England, and if you google her she's got the thick glasses she referenced in her writings. But there's no evidence of her being involved with amputation fetishes anymore.
I don’t buy this. This is a man’s amputee fetish. The obsession with specific well-known female amputees is evidence of this imo.

This is pretty clearly a man who adopted a persona based on a woman he was attracted to, who probably wore thick glasses. (She had one minor disability so it was easy to imagine her with another) Then he came up with a fantasy scenario of her severing her hands with construction equipment.

I don’t know if it’s precisely “autistic crossdresser who gets his thrills from bra-themed interactions with women in the Walmart lingerie section” but that’s gotta be much closer to reality.
 
There is genetic/inherited familial dysautonomia but that’s more heavy on the actually possibly dying than the I get a head rush and everything goes black that the social media girlies have.

I believe that some people developed inappropriate sinus tachycardia either after Covid or the Covid vaccination too but if treated it only lasts maybe 6 months. It’s under the dysautonomia umbrella too. A lot of those cases were seen in long COVID clinics or by private cardiologists.

And then there’s dysautonomia symptoms that can be caused by medication side effects. SSRIs can cause heat intolerance, some anxiety meds can cause blood pressure drops, etc. Or straight up anxiety attacks in general can last hours in people who haven’t worked on CBT skills - body can do funky things in attempt to compensate for fast breathing or heart rate etc.

Dehydration will almost always cause faster heart rate and possibly lower blood pressure. The social media dysautonomia girlies consume extreme amounts of sodium to create slightly elevated blood volume and I definitely believe the crash causes rebound effects. That’s why they feel terrible in the morning because they haven’t had anything to drink all night, then get up too quick to go to the bathroom.
Are you talking about Riley Day? That starts in infancy and gets progressively worse. It’s due to a IKBKAP gene mutation and is nothing like the kind of dysautonomia you see in pots. It causes an absence of tears for one thing, amongst other really horrible symptoms like an inability to feel pain and it’s progressive. Like most horrible disorders, it’s at least recessive.
 
Are you talking about Riley Day? That starts in infancy and gets progressively worse. It’s due to a IKBKAP gene mutation and is nothing like the kind of dysautonomia you see in pots. It causes an absence of tears for one thing, amongst other really horrible symptoms like an inability to feel pain and it’s progressive. Like most horrible disorders, it’s at least recessive.
I’m pretty sure I said it’s heavy on the dying? I know the difference, I was attempting to point out the different kinds of legitimate dysautonomia versus what the munchies do. It does cause OI, feeding issues, etc before the dying part. I happen to carry the gene in several variations.
 
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