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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Anyway, retarded American here, how y'all doin? Could I trouble you island mexicans to spoonfeed me some information I should be able to figure out myself? I was thinking about the consequences of one of you guys getting doxed on here, and I was wondering whether just accessing the site would be enough for some kind of charge even if you never actually posted TPD. Obviously you have to be using a VPN or TOR, and as far as I know there's talk of criminalizing that but it hasn't happened yet; but the site is not in compliance with UK law and is supposed to be blocking UK residents. Is the onus entirely on the site operator? Could you be in trouble for having posted innocuous things here after the IP block?
1. Fuck off, we're full
2. Go on a diet fatty.
3. Accessing the site isn't illegal. If any of us got police attention and could tie our account to it we would likely end up in court and possibly 2 years in prison no matter what we posted.
 
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BREAKING: People cannot adjust the NVIDIA graphics cards settings on their Gaming PCs anymore because they aren't 18 thanks to the Online Safety Act.
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16 year olds: Can't look at porn, can't drink, can't drive, can't buy certain video games, can't adjust graphics on those video games, can't buy things to chop their vegetables with, can't smoke, can't vape, can't be out of school, but CAN vote. This is definitely a sensible country we live in.
It's a very interesting move from the government to restrict 16 year olds from everything but then give them the ability to vote the government out.
 
It's a very interesting move from the government to restrict 16 year olds from everything but then give them the ability to vote the government out.
Makes you wonder if aforementioned 16 year olds will have the intelligence to do so, rather than falling for whatever bs is on social media telling them to vote Labour.

It would be a hilarious and spectacular self-own if this backfires on the Labour party.

A close relative of mine works in education (not as a teacher, but with young people in a secondary school). They've told me more than once how there's a real, serious undercurrent of flat-out hate, towards immigrants and the establishment as a whole among young white people.

They're keenly aware that their life will be an absolute slog and it's not helped at all by the Government flooding the country with Nbugu and his tongue clicking pals.
 
Makes you wonder if aforementioned 16 year olds will have the intelligence to do so, rather than falling for whatever bs is on social media telling them to vote Labour.

It would be a hilarious and spectacular self-own if this backfires on the Labour party.

A close relative of mine works in education (not as a teacher, but with young people in a secondary school). They've told me more than once how there's a real, serious undercurrent of flat-out hate, towards immigrants and the establishment as a whole among young white people.

They're keenly aware that their life will be an absolute slog and it's not helped at all by the Government flooding the country with Nbugu and his tongue clicking pals.
I very much think that this is likely.

Welsh Labour tried it here and now very few Welsh youngsters will consider Labour as their party.

Plaid have a good chunk of the youth vote, but Reform UK are also popular in South and North Wales in the working class communities. The Lib Dems are just about treading water with some of the students (16-21 year olds) but none of the others are making any progress including the Greens (only in Cardiff and Newport are they making any gains).

Labour and Tories are dead here, and what's happened in Wales will now also happen elsewhere.

In Scotland, the SNP are on the back foot for the first time in decades and independence is now more likely for Wales than Scotland (though IMO Wales will opt to stay as part of the Union).
 
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Trial is going ahead in absence of Tulip's presence, no doubt she'll be found guilty and remain in the UK because harbouring foreign criminals is our norm.
Labour MP Tulip Siddiq is set to face trial later this month over corruption allegations in Bangladesh.
The former minister is accused of illegally receiving land in Bangladesh as part of a wider investigation into the regime of her aunt, Sheikh Hasina, who was deposed as prime minister last year.
The country's Anti-Corruption Commission confirmed her case is due to be heard, along with more than 20 other individuals including Hasina and other family members, on 11 August and if she does not attend it will be held in her absence.
Lawyers for Siddiq have denied the allegations, describing them as "politically motivated".
The Hampstead and Highgate MP resigned as treasury minister in Sir Keir Starmer's government in January, saying continuing in her role would be a "distraction", although she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
The three cases to be heard on 11 August accuse Siddiq of influencing her aunt's administration to secure a plot of land for her mother, brother and sister in Purbachal, Dhaka.
Siddiq has so far failed to appear before the court, despite several summons.
Bangladeshi authorities issued an arrest warrant for her earlier this year.

https://archive.ph/o/Y6vgE/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm3473wzr0o
In a statement, lawyers for Siddiq said: "For nearly a year now, the Bangladesh authorities have been making false allegations against Tulip Siddiq. Ms Siddiq has not been contacted or received any official communication from the court and does not and has never owned any plot of land in Purbachal.
"This longstanding politically motivated smear campaign has included repeated briefings to the media, a refusal to respond to formal legal correspondence, and a failure to seek any meeting with or question Ms Siddiq during the recent visit by the Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) to the United Kingdom. Such conduct is wholly incompatible with the standards of a fair, lawful, and credible investigation.
"In light of these facts, it is now time for the chief adviser and the ACC to end this baseless and defamatory effort to damage Ms Siddiq's reputation and obstruct her work in public service."
Last month, Bangladesh's interim leader Muhammad Yunus refused to meet Siddiq to discuss the allegations against her, despite her requests, saying this was a court matter.
The commission is also investigating a separate case against Siddiq and her family over allegations of embezzlement of £3.9bn connected to a Russian-funded nuclear power plant deal with Bangladesh in 2013.
Siddiq has denied any involvement in the deal.
The investigation is based on a series of allegations made by Bobby Hajjaj, a political opponent of Hasina.
Bangladeshi authorities estimate that about $234bn (£174bn) was siphoned off from Bangladesh through corrupt means while Hasina was in power.
Siddiq quit her ministerial post earlier this year following an investigation into the allegations against her by the prime minister's standards adviser, Sir Laurie Magnus.
In his report, Sir Laurie said he had "not identified evidence of improprieties".
But he said it was "regrettable" that Siddiq had not been more alert to the "potential reputational risks" of her ties to her aunt.
A pair of dumb ones from Jess Philips
Jess Phillips has joined criticism of Reform UK’s pledge to repeal the Online Safety Act, suggesting such a move would empower “modern-day Jimmy Saviles”.
Ms Phillips, the Home Office minister for safeguarding and violence against women and girls, appeared to accuse Nigel Farage of being more concerned about “clicks for his monetised social media accounts” than children’s safety online.
She backed her colleague Peter Kyle after his row with the Reform UK leader last week.

The Technology Secretary said Mr Farage was putting himself on the side of “extreme pornographers” and people like Savile by opposing the law.

Under rules that came into effect on 25 July as part of the act, online platforms such as social media sites and search engines must take steps to prevent children from accessing harmful content such as pornography or material that encourages suicide.
Mr Farage has said the legislation threatens freedom of speech and open debate.

Writing in The Times, Ms Phillips said: “Farage said it’s the biggest threat to freedom of speech in our lifetimes.
“My colleague Peter Kyle said he was siding with modern-day Jimmy Saviles preying on children online.”

She said she would like to speak to Mr Farage about “one of those modern-day Saviles, Alexander McCartney”.
McCartney, who posed as a teenage girl to befriend young girls from across the globe on Snapchat and other platforms before blackmailing them, “just needed a computer” to reach his targets, Ms Phillips wrote.

Believed to be one of the world’s most prolific online offenders, McCartney abused at least 70 children online and drove one girl to suicide.
Ms Phillips said the Online Safety Act exists to try to provide a “basic minimum of protection, and make it harder for paedophiles to prey on children at will”.

She said police have told her that paedophile networks use “normal websites where their parents assume they’re safe” to coerce and blackmail young people.

“Perhaps Nigel Farage doesn’t worry about that — there’s no political advantage in it, and no clicks for his monetised social media accounts. But I do.
“I worry about what it means now and what it will mean when boys reared on a diet of ultraviolent online child abuse are adult men having children of their own. I can’t ignore that, neither can Peter Kyle, and, most importantly, nor can millions of parents across the country.
“I defy Nigel Farage to tell me what any of that has to do with free speech.
“I defy him to meet even one parent who has lost a daughter to suicide because she was being blackmailed online and tell them that is just the price of civil liberties. Maybe he’d feel differently after that kind of meeting, or maybe he wouldn’t care.”
Her comments echo those of Mr Kyle, who said last week: “Make no mistake about it, if people like Jimmy Savile were alive today, he’d be perpetrating his crimes online. And Nigel Farage is saying that he’s on their side.”
Mr Farage demanded an apology from the Technology Secretary, who refused to withdraw the remarks.
Labour MP Jess Phillips has said the UK has got “fat” from the free labour of women for decades.
The minister for safeguarding and violence against women and girls said the country has relied on women providing charity, adding it was a “fundamentally sexist” practice that meant the government was less willing to provide the service itself.

She said she “hated” the title of her role and added that safeguarding against gender-based violence should be “business as usual in every single government department”.
The Birmingham Yardley MP also suggested there was an issue in Whitehall where government departments viewed violence against women and girls as solely a Home Office issue.

Phillips said she had to push for the safety of women and girls to be a “mainstream concern”, which she said had not always made her “popular as a government minister”.
Asked what pushback she had received from ministers or civil servants, she said: “People directly say things like, ‘That’s the Home Office’s job’.
“Why is it my job to do healthy relationship education in schools? Why is it my job to provide mental health support for whatever reason it is that you ended up in that [situation]?’
“Do you know what it is? Free labour of women is where it comes from.
“It comes from a fundamentally sexist place in that women didn’t have these services, so a load of women across the country got together and made these services and offered them to other women for free, and they didn’t get paid for their labour.
“So they put down a mattress and made a refuge. They set up counselling services and got people who were trained to be therapists and got their voluntary hours and set it up for free.”
Phillips said people do not recognise how heavily the UK has relied on women providing support that previously did not exist
She added: “Nobody offered diabetes medicine for free. Pharmaceutical companies didn’t go, ‘Wow, this is really important. People will die without this. We’ll just give it away for free.’
“That is what the women in our country did in the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s and we got fat on that expectation that that service will be provided for free.
“And we also belittled it as an issue that wasn’t absolutely, fundamentally mainstream to the safety and security of our nation.
“Undoing that is really hard and it’s going to take a long time.”
 
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My pickle in Chris that poster is about as old as you. Looks like it was put up when the soviet union actually still existed.
Sure, it looks pretty ancient (still has a QR code tho).

Still, am I wrong in my understanding that commie nonsense is way more explicit and open in the UK?

To be fair, I suppose we do get some of that in the US, but it's more of a west coast thing. They're way more scared of spooking the boomers with the C word on the east coast. (Don't get me wrong, they still have 100% of the same retarded ideas, they just know they need to use euphemisms.)

Lol I saw this one today:
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I appreciate the vandalism.
 
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@Marvin when you get back are you gonna make a big ol thread about your trip like mindless observer?
Probably not, because I doubt I'll encounter anything particularly mind blowing. I've been visiting friends in Bongland once or twice annually for the past few years.

Mostly just hanging out in Sheffield.

If I encounter anything distinctive, I'll be sure to make note of it.
 
Still, am I wrong in my understanding that commie nonsense is way more explicit and open in the UK?
We're still full and you still need to fuck off. This applies to all Americans. We've replaced our McDonalds with Costas, there is nothing here for you any more!

Commie nonsense is kept to the back streets. Every town will have a small area with a bunch of lefty twats larping as communists and putting up stickers. Every one else thinks they're stupid, spotty geeks and we laugh at them. They lack any back bone and sit around doing fuck all in their grubby halls. The Young Ones is worth watching to see how they portray Rik in it. He's based on the communist youth and he's as accurate today as he was back then. He's based on the writer and his mates making fun of themselves but it's a masterful character with the right actor to back it up.
 
Some news this morning from Bongland:


Sir Keir Starmer has indicated that the police should have greater transparency over the ethnicity of criminal suspects involved in high-profile cases:




Teen died in care after imposter staff member left her unsupervised before fleeing the country:




Football players set to take legal action against Fifa as they seek new powers in the sport:




British man 'reunited with handcuffs' after Left-wing activists aided escape from US migrant detention centre:




US Congressmen speak to GB News after holding talks with Nigel Farage about Britain’s free speech crisis: 'It's frightening':




The Repair Shop's Jay Blades charged with rape:




'My energy bills are so high I asked the council to buy back my flat':


 
>even YouGov have to put their push-poll number at a mere 45%
>headline copes it's only about "illegal" immigration
It's so over Ummahbros...
Is there public support for large-scale removals of migrants?

Public attitudes towards immigration are heavily influenced by the belief that most migration to the UK is 'illegal’​

Polling on immigration typically focusses on attitudes towards the level of new arrivals. But polls rarely cover another possibility of public opinion – that not only do people want immigration highly curtailed, but that they might also want to see large-scale removals of migrants.

One person who holds such a desire is Rupert Lowe, a view which brought him into conflict with Nigel Farage during his brief stint as a Reform UK MP, given the party leader had told GB News that it is a political impossibility to deport hundreds of thousands of people.

However, a new YouGov poll testing attitudes to several immigration scenarios has found that almost half of Britons (45%) say they would support “admitting no more new migrants, and requiring large numbers of migrants who came to the UK in recent years to leave” – a figure which rises to 86% of Reform UK voters, but also encompasses sizeable minorities of Labour and Lib Dem voters (27% apiece).

On the face of it, this is an extraordinary finding, coming as it does at a time when immigration is a key focus of government and public attention. However, a more detailed examination of attitudes shows a nuanced picture, suggesting that much of this apparent hostility may stem from a simple misconception.

Are more migrants in the UK legally or illegally?​

Key to understanding this finding is the belief among the public that immigration to the UK is primarily ‘illegal’ rather than ‘legal’. Our research shows that almost half of Britons (47%) think there are more migrants staying in the UK illegally rather than legally, including fully a third of the public (32%) who think the illegal figure is “much higher”.

Crucially, this view is held by 72% of those who want to see mass removals. However, these perceptions appear to be wide of the mark.

Estimates of the population of illegal migrants living in the UK range from 120,000 to 1.3 million, with Reform UK’s Zia Yusuf recently putting the figure at 1.2 million.

Regardless of which figure from this range is chosen, it does not come close to the number of migrants living in the UK legally, with 2021/2022 census data putting the entire foreign-born population of the UK at 10.7 million.

Do those who say they want to see large numbers of migrants removed​

If the British public dramatically overestimate the number of illegal migrants to the UK to the extent that they think that most migrants are here illegally, then the possibility arises that, in reality, those who support removals don’t want to see the bulk of migrants removed.

To check this possibility, we tested attitudes towards specific types of migrants among those who want to see large-scale removals.

Unsurprisingly, those who want to see mass deportations almost universally want to see removals of those who come to the UK to claim benefits (91%), small boat migrants (90%), and those coming without work visas to work in unskilled jobs (85%).

However, these numbers fall dramatically when it comes to other groups. A much-reduced 39% of deportation supporters say they want to see large-scale removals of asylum seekers who came to the UK via the correct legal process; 26% want to see workers with work visas coming to work in industries with skills shortages removed en masse; and at its lowest level 19-20% want to see migrants coming on work visas to work as doctors or nurses to be asked to leave.

If we recalculate those figures to show them as a proportion of the whole population, rather than just as a proportion of those who support deportations, we can see that the number of Britons who answered that they want deportations AND that this includes small boat asylum seekers stands at the equivalent of 38% of the general public.* Similarly high are the equivalent national figures for those coming to claim benefits (38%) and those coming without work visas to work in unskilled jobs (36%).

By contrast, that equivalent national figure falls to 16% for asylum seekers following the correct legal process, 11% for migrants coming to work in areas with skills shortages, and 8% for migrants working as doctors and nurses.

A separate question more broadly examining positivity towards different migrant groups finds similar results, with negativity among mass-deportation proponents falling from 93% for small boats migrants to 44% for migrants coming to the UK legally looking for work, and 26% for foreign students.

How far does desire to reduce immigration persist when faced with economic trade-offs?​

Removing immigrants would not happen in a vacuum, with many foreigners working in areas that the UK currently has difficulty filling vacancies for.

Our study posed trade-offs to the public, asking them to pick between reducing legal migration and its potential adverse consequences, or the more economically beneficial alternative, but at the cost of higher legal migration.

In each case, Britons tend to choose the economically beneficial trade off. Six in ten opt for getting enough workers in areas with skills shortages over reducing legal migration; 59% likewise prioritised attracting the “best and brightest” to the UK; 52% did so for “improving the UK economy”; and 41% preferred to increase the numbers of people in the UK paying tax (higher than the 30% taking the opposite view that reducing legal migration is the higher priority).

Additionally, 67% of Britons say ensuring the NHS is fully staffed, even if it means legal migration increases, is preferable to the opposite.

While not an economic trade off, the public are also more likely to prefer to meet Britain’s legal international humanitarian options, even at the cost of higher legal migration (44%), than to break those obligations in order to reduce inflows of migrants (32%).

Of these scenarios, only the NHS staffing issue proves compelling to those who initially say they want to see large numbers of migrants removed. In this case, 29% say they prioritise reducing legal migration to the UK if this means NHS services suffer staffing shortages, with 47% instead opting to preserve the health service.

Otherwise, this group are evenly split when the trade-offs are over wider skills shortages and attracting the best and brightest, and are more likely to favour lowering immigration even if the trade-offs were the economy getting worse or fewer people to pay tax in the UK. Most also prefer to break Britain’s legal international humanitarian obligations to reduce migrant numbers.

What do attitudes to migration look like when the distinction between legal and illegal migration is made?​

Given there is such a widespread misconception that migration to the UK is primarily illegal, it is worth re-examining general attitudes towards immigration when making the distinction between the two ‘types’ of migrants.

The main YouGov immigration trackers ask A. whether the level of immigration into Britain over the last ten years has been too high (the majority say it has); and B. the level of immigration into Britain over the last ten years has been good or bad for the country (a plurality say it has been bad).

When we ask instead about “illegal immigration” and “legal immigration” separately, the response rates differ markedly between the two types. Fully 79% of Britons say there has been too much illegal migration to the UK, far higher than the 48% who say the level of legal migration has been too high – although this is still a significant level of scepticism, with only 29% saying the level of legal migration has been “about right” and just 8% considering it too low.

When it comes to whether types of migration have been good for the UK, it is unsurprising to again see the majority saying that illegal migration has been bad for the UK (66%). However, this becomes the minority view for legal migration; only 22% of Britons see this as having been bad for the UK, with the remainder split between considering it mostly good (36%) or being both good and bad for the country (33%).

We also went a step beyond our usual tracker questions, to look at the impact Britons think immigration has had on specific areas of daily life in the UK.

Across all ten areas we asked about, when it comes to illegal immigration there is a net negative response to each. However, the extent varies dramatically, with the response least negative for sport (-15) and food (-25) and most negative for crime (-69) and housing (-72).

When it comes to legal migrants, the story is more mixed. There is net positivity to the contributions made by legal migrants when it comes to sport (+15), food (+13) and the economy (+5). Even here, however, there is still particularly strong negativity towards legal migration when it comes to housing (-41).

A plurality of Britons are concerned that legal migrants do not share British values​

In both the case of illegal and legal immigrants, there is a negative net view in terms of their impact on British culture (-50 for illegal migrants and -13 for legal migrants) and society (-54 for illegal migrants and -9 for legal migrants).

This seems to stem from a sense held by many that migrants do not share British values, and are not integrating into British society.

Almost seven in ten Britons (69%) feel that illegal migrants do not share the same values as British people, and the number who say the same of legal migrants (43%) notably outstrips the number who disagree (32%).

Likewise, almost three quarters (73%) think that illegal migrants are not successfully being integrated into British society, while the public are closely divided on whether the same is true of legal migrants – 43% think they are, 41% say they are not.

So while it is clear that legal migration dramatically outweighs illegal migration, that is not to say that if only the public could be made aware of this fact then immigration would disappear as an issue.

After all, Britons tend to think that legal immigration has been too high as well, and the concerns that many people have extend beyond the economic terms in which immigration is typically justified – anyone seeking to address the issue will need to engage with deeper anxieties about identity, integration, and the perceived erosion of shared national values.

* please note that this is not the same as saying national support for removal of small boat asylum seekers stands at 38%, as this follow-up question was only asked to those who support large-scale removals of migrants. Rather, what we are saying is that the number of deportations supporters who also support deporting members of this group specifically is equivalent in size to 38% of the whole public.

If the question had been asked to all respondents, rather than only those who say they supported large numbers of deportations, it is possible that some who otherwise oppose deportations in general may have made exceptions for specific groups.
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I know most people might be kneejerk about telling those worried about NHS staff shortages to fuck off, but inversely you can just tell them there won't be a staff shortage because there'd be much fewer patients to worry about when you kick all the immigrants out, and then point to Birmingham as an example of how they're making the system actively worse for everybody. The top 3 concerns for people (NHS, labour shortages and "attracting the best minds") are issues that are self-solving if you kick fuckers out, since labour represents production, which meets demand, and demand goes down if there's fewer people, requiring less production and therefore fewer jobs in need of filling. Importing people to "pay taxes" and "improve the economy" are pretty much evil-tier-ass reasons to import people and the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

Edit: If you add the "no new migrants" together with the "no new migrants + removal of those here" you get 77% btw.
2nd Edit: Also, I've never seen Yougov have an asterisk beside a poll before demarcating the actual percentage of the population represented by the statistic before. It's likely to reassure some people people who hold these views are in the minority, which feels like cope. Most of this feels like cope actually. They're trying to argue the percentage they're worried about is based on misinfo.
 
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45% of Britons say they would support an immigration scenario whereby no more new migrants were admitted, and large numbers of recent migrants were required to leave - but what do they mean by that?​

You know you're dealing with thickos or the deliberately obtuse when, given a clear and plain statement, they confess confusion. Indeed, what does a man mean when he says "get out of my house"? It's such a confusing world. Surely economic factors are to blame.
 
You know you're dealing with thickos or the deliberately obtuse when, given a clear and plain statement, they confess confusion. Indeed, what does a man mean when he says "get out of my house"? It's such a confusing world. Surely economic factors are to blame.
Citizen. Do you agree with a statement you know we consider illegal and would get you done for a hate crime if you said it in the wrong place?
I don't understand the statement Mr. Clipboard man. I'm proper thick
 
We're still full and you still need to fuck off.
Lol don't worry this thread is not making me consider even visiting the UK any time soon. Or do you mean we need to fuck off out the thread?

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"Public attitudes towards immigration are heavily influenced by the belief that most migration to the UK is 'illegal’"
"However, a more detailed examination of attitudes shows a nuanced picture, suggesting that much of this apparent hostility may stem from a simple misconception."

HOLY FUCK DOES THIS SHIT FUCK ME OFF

This is such EGREGIOUS HORSESHIT that I am DEMENTED. No, people would not soften their views if you only let them know that "mOsT iMmIgRaNtS aRe LeGaL uwu". People would just realize that SHIT IS FUCKED AND YOU GAVE CITIZENSHIP TO DIRTY REPROBATES. They would support DEPORTING "CITIZENS". No, what these polls prove is simply that people hate what they see when they look around them, and if they had an accurate picture of how many were legal, you might not like how many questions don't shift their polling...and the direction of the shift in the ones that do. Sorry, this dishonest journalism and poll framing just drives me crazy, I'll go choke on my mcdonalds now.
 
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I am on good terms with an Indian orthopedic surgeon who works in the NHS. The man is insanely talented. He specialises in putting people who have been through serious trauma back together. I once asked him what drew him to his career, and he said he loves anatomy, physiology and jigsaw puzzles.

If you get in a car crash and your legs are pink -misted, he is absolutely who you would want putting you back together. His work is incredible and proof to me, surgeons are flesh artists.

That is the only scenario where we should be letting someone in the country. Someone with real, concrete talent and exceptional skills. He works, pays his taxes and heals the most pitifully broken in the most literal sense, in our society.

Is it crap we don't have anyone comparable here? Sure. It is. But he's here and doing good and plans to return home in a few years, having done incredible good here in the meantime.

Anyone else, can fuck off. We are full. We don't have the resources. Our own are hungry, homeless and hopeless.
 
>nog comes to stay on airbnb using a clearly English name that definitely is not his since he barely speaks it
>tells me he’s a civil engineer who needs to stay somewhere between places
>ask where hes a civil engineer
>cant answer the question
>tell him ‘if you need anything ask me or my boyfriend downstairs’
>checks out 8am the next morning and tells me he’s not comfortable and cancels remaining nights

Not suspicious at all
 
George Finch, the young lad (20 year old leader of Warwickshire County Council) is now facing contempt of court charges after talking about the rape of a 12 year old girl at yesterday's press conference. The rapist, 23 year old Ahmad Mulakhil was also charged with kidnap and strangulation.

Labour have caved in to this, too. Yesterday, Farage demanded that we know about an offender's immigration status as soon as possible. Today, Yvette Cooper has come out and is now chasing this. They're trying to head things off.

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Britain, a land so beautiful that I thought for a moment I had gone colourblind.
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It's so beautiful. I'm sick of all the talk of all the "colourful" culture and food and festivals or whatever that blacks/browns brag about. The British soul is grey and green, maybe blue on occasion as long as it behaves itself.
 
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