Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

I don’t buy this. This is a man’s amputee fetish. The obsession with specific well-known female amputees is evidence of this imo.

This is pretty clearly a man who adopted a persona based on a woman he was attracted to, who probably wore thick glasses. (She had one minor disability so it was easy to imagine her with another) Then he came up with a fantasy scenario of her severing her hands with construction equipment.

I don’t know if it’s precisely “autistic crossdresser who gets his thrills from bra-themed interactions with women in the Walmart lingerie section” but that’s gotta be much closer to reality.
According to Skumbagovich/Frankie Fey it was a woman, but an autistic/retarded one being groomed by a boyfriend who was really into amputees. Once the boyfriend was out of the picture she was no longer interested and has all her limbs to this day:


So it's possible to groom an autistic person into having a fetish that leads them to believing that mutilating themselves will make them "whole" and their "true self". Huh. I'm sure that doesn't apply to anything else. No sir.
 
I’m pretty sure I said it’s heavy on the dying? I know the difference, I was attempting to point out the different kinds of legitimate dysautonomia versus what the munchies do. It does cause OI, feeding issues, etc before the dying part. I happen to carry the gene in several variations.
In this thread recently you've told us twice about some super special rare zebra warrior mutation you have. So you have "the legitimate type, for real" of EDS and you carry some extremely rare recessive genes for super-POTS? Are you affected by super-POTS too?

PLEASE please tell us the rest of your diagnoses. I'm not even being sarcastic, I want to know what else you claim to have. Is it MG? Are you Vicky Markhoff?? What about fatal familial insomnia? I've always wanted to meet a real one of those.
 
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In this thread recently you've told us twice about some super special rare zebra warrior mutation you have. So you have "the legitimate type, for real" of EDS and you carry some extremely rare recessive genes for super-POTS? Are you affected by super-POTS too?

PLEASE please tell us the rest of your diagnoses. I'm not even being sarcastic, I want to know what else you claim to have. Is it MG? Are you Vicky Markhoff?? What about fatal familial insomnia? I've always wanted to meet a real one of those.

people carry on average 5-6 genetic mutations per person. it’s not special. If we started testing everyone preemptively, you’ll start finding things. Recessive doesn’t matter so much because it’s a 25 percent chance each pregnancy if two parents carry a mutation, it will be avoided completely if the second parent doesn’t carry a mutation for xyz disease.

Autosomal dominant is different because it’s 50/50 each time, only requires one copy of a faulty gene and has no carriers. You either have it or don’t, there is no in between.

This is only a rule for simple mandelian disorders like cf, sickle cell, etc. other disorders can get a little more complicated and there’s a reason people with masters and PhD degrees interpret this stuff etc

Btw, guess which group is most likely to have Riley Day Syndrome? Ashkenazi Jews. Being inbred isn’t a flex. 1 in 31 Ashkenazi Jews carry the gene. Only to be beat by cf, 1 in 22. So it’s not all that rare to be a carrier of it when cf is considered to the second most common inherited condition amongst Ashkenazis. The first being Gauchers.

So that poster isn’t really special. Having the gene for a recessive disorder means nothing right now.

Multiple pathogenic variants for the same disorder sounds suspect to me actually since they said they are a carrier. 2 mutations would mean disease causing. The poster stated they were a carrier only, so not affected. So they only have one pathogenic mutation.

Was this direct to consumer WGS like sequencing.com? If it was through a legit lab, they would have done the interpreting already. But I can see someone trying to order their own testing through sequencing and trying to interpret themselves, especially the EDS girls, and screwing it up especially if they get a vus. A vus is classified as benign 90 percent of the time eventually and you cannot interpret it yourself. A vus is only relevant if a geneticist thinks it is.

Eta: if I may rant for a moment, since this is the the munchie thread, I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but in case it hasn’t, there’s good reason genetic clinics don’t take hEDS cases anymore. This specific population of people overwhelm offices and resources, and there being no genetic marker for hEDS means there’s not much for a geneticist to do. Other providers can order an EDS panel to make sure it isn’t vEDS or another type, and I say good because hEDS patients are a waste of resources. Genetics is already months to a year wait if not longer.
 
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If nobody else wants to start bullying people who use this style of passive-aggressive millennial Reddit speak, then I will
I'm in.

I’m pretty sure I said it’s heavy on the dying? I know the difference, I was attempting to point out the different kinds of legitimate dysautonomia versus what the munchies do. It does cause OI, feeding issues, etc before the dying part. I happen to carry the gene in several variations.
No one cares, gaywad.
 
Y'all are forgetting the most important bit:

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A better way to make this same point @eat your greens would be to link to something like the NIH GARD database that states:

“The symptoms of FD are present at birth and include difficulty swallowing, and poor control of blood pressure, body temperature and breathing. Other symptoms may include the inability to make tears or feel pain, vomiting episodes, frequent pneumonia, and difficulty walking. Over time, the symptoms of FD tend to get worse and are often life-threatening.”

It can cause problems with blood pressure, but also a slew of other issues that can be life threatening.

ETA: @TheCakeIsALie I understand that a lot of specialists advise against genetic testing these days if your condition is stable and being medically managed for this very reason. Let’s say you had some form of dysautonomia and wanted genetic testing to narrow it down. I heard a doctor explain why they wouldn’t advise genetic testing in cases like this because it is time consuming, expensive and wouldn’t identify any additional useful treatment for the patient, it’s just “going on a treasure hunt”. Like you say, there are many findings that don’t cause problems, and even more findings where doctors aren’t yet sure if they cause problems or not. It also takes so long and there is a massive wait list so I can see why they want to limit it to people whose treatment is going to be informed by the testing (or who need to understand if they are going to pass anything on to their children).

On the no testing for HEDS, I saw on the unreliable reddits that there is some research showing markers - anyone with actual medical knowledge know if this is legit? Here’s a quote from the user who posted about it:

“This is not true. Both a biomarker and a genetic mutation for hEDS have been identified. The biomarker’s discovery was recent and may explain the majority of patients diagnosed hEDS, the genetic mutation has been known for 2+ decades and only applies to a small subset of patients.

Biomarker - fibronectin fragments found exclusively in hEDS patients

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajmg.a.63857

Genetic mutation - TNX haploinsufficiency, not to be confused with Classical-Like EDS TNXB deficiency

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1180584/

Haven’t had time to read them both but the first one is funded by the EDS society so that is immediately suss given their desperate need to claim hEDS is super cereal guys!
 
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A better way to make this same point @eat your greens would be to link to something like the NIH GARD database that states:

“The symptoms of FD are present at birth and include difficulty swallowing, and poor control of blood pressure, body temperature and breathing. Other symptoms may include the inability to make tears or feel pain, vomiting episodes, frequent pneumonia, and difficulty walking. Over time, the symptoms of FD tend to get worse and are often life-threatening.”

It can cause problems with blood pressure, but also a slew of other issues that can be life threatening.
Yes but it’s also known as Riley Day syndrome (which they should have known from the start), and since they pointed out they have “multiple mutations” but said they are a carrier, they contradicted themselves. You cannot have multiple pathogenic mutations for a recessive disorder and be a carrier. Makes zero sense. Unless they’re pretending the mutations are non pathogenic, which just would make them a liar. And the truth by omission is still a lie.

Which is what makes me wonder if they got WGS from sequencing.com as opposed to a legit lab, because it sounds exactly like nonsense you’d hear in the EDS sub. That poster claims to have EDS, pots genes (can someone explain this to me??, what genes specifically if any are known? I will try to look into this) and multiple mutations for a disorder but are a carrier. This absolutely sounds like someone who has a bad understand of genetics.

You get people who rely on companies that either have their own classification systems already built in (sequencing), and then databases like Clinvar, who have classification systems based on lab certified reports like gene dx, invitae etc, who already classify the variants by simply compiling the data and that’s how it ends up in a database like Clinvar. For example, let’s say I have a pathogenic mutation for gene 1. Genedx decides to report this result to Clinvar, who eventually publishes it.

Problem is, Sequencing (which goes off Clinvar) has a high false positive rate and also, Clinvar is missing some variants. So if a variant is not in Clinvar at all, not as a vus, benign or pathogenic, Sequencing rates it as harmless, creating a false negative.

You’re not wrong btw, poster could have just avoided this altogether by doing exactly what you said. I’m just really bothered by how ridiculous their claim sounds.

For those who might not get why it sounds dumb, think of it like this:

2 plus 2 always equals 4. Except suddenly, one person claims 2 plus 2 equals 5 and comes up with a convoluted explanation as to why. It just makes no logical or scientific sense

There is still no known genetic marker for hEDS. Sorry but it’s true. There’s discussion all the time about why it hasn’t been found yet and the best guess is that heds is a polygenic factor rather than a simple mandelian disorder.


this article says they found no link between hEDS and tnxb. I know you mentioned tnx. I have heard of several potential bio markers for hEDS and then nothing comes of it. Interestingly enough, it’s the EDS society and the EDS sub that seems to be pushing this stuff, with a few medical journals here and there posting their findings. I think it comes out of sheer desperation.

Last I knew, klk15 gene was of new interest as a candidate gene
 
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Meanwhile, you guys...Tilly got her diagnosis but she's still sick?! Who could have guessed things would pan out this way? And apparently she is throwing a literal fit when they want to move her infusions to outpatient for her very real VASCULAR COMPRESSIONS (I have never seen her type it without all caps). So crazy, right?


I love her so much.
 

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Sure are mad at the internet and sperging out today, good jorb lol thanks for the entertainment!

I never said I had the POTS gene and not everybody lives in the US and is dependent on dumb websites like sequencing dot com. Be so fucking for real right now. 🤡

Just because munchies in this thread live in shit hole countries doesn’t mean everybody does 😂

Meanwhile, you guys...Tilly got her diagnosis but she's still sick?! Who could have guessed things would pan out this way? And apparently she is throwing a literal fit when they want to move her infusions to outpatient for her very real VASCULAR COMPRESSIONS (I have never seen her type it without all caps). So crazy, right?


I love her so much.
Thanks for getting the thread back on topic!

She won’t feel so special in outpatients is my guess!
 
Meanwhile, you guys...Tilly got her diagnosis but she's still sick?! Who could have guessed things would pan out this way? And apparently she is throwing a literal fit when they want to move her infusions to outpatient for her very real VASCULAR COMPRESSIONS (I have never seen her type it without all caps). So crazy, right?


I love her so much.
Let me get this straight: so she wants to remain in the hospital? Like, Tilly is mad that her condition has improved enough that her doctors/medical team thinks she can leave the hospital? 🤯 Talk about a munchie munching! What sane sick person wants to continue being hospitalized?
 
Let me get this straight: so she wants to remain in the hospital? Like, Tilly is mad that her condition has improved enough that her doctors/medical team thinks she can leave the hospital? 🤯 Talk about a munchie munching! What sane sick person wants to continue being hospitalized?
Hospitals are awful places, especially in the UK. They are places of sickness, pain, fear, suffering, death and grief. Most people will breathe their last in a hospital, most people will lose their loved ones there. Doctors and nurses have sky-high suicide rates for a reason. If you actually want to spend a minute longer in one of those places than you absolutely have to there is something very wrong with you, and not in a "needs IV morphine" way.
 
How Tilly managed to piss about in hospital for months in the UK the first time this all started is beyond me. I don’t know how she managed to stick around without being slapped with a functional disorder diagnosis and shown the door. I suspect mummy might have had a lot to do with it.

You see genuinely sick people getting hit with a functional diagnosis slightly too often in the UK, which makes it even weirder to me she wasn't just labelled with one and shown the door. I know I'd be delighted to do her discharge papers.
 
Meanwhile, you guys...Tilly got her diagnosis but she's still sick?! Who could have guessed things would pan out this way? And apparently she is throwing a literal fit when they want to move her infusions to outpatient for her very real VASCULAR COMPRESSIONS (I have never seen her type it without all caps). So crazy, right?


I love her so much.
Is she currently in a UK hospital?
I wonder what kind of long-term side effects her "compression" surgeries caused. Her pain might actually be real now, so it's possible that the medical professionals are nicer to her.
 
Meanwhile, you guys...Tilly got her diagnosis but she's still sick?! Who could have guessed things would pan out this way? And apparently she is throwing a literal fit when they want to move her infusions to outpatient for her very real VASCULAR COMPRESSIONS (I have never seen her type it without all caps). So crazy, right?


I love her so much.
IV "anti-sickness."
Anti what sickness, you daft bint?
 
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