Debate the ethics of vtubers and the Russia/Ukraine war because politics or some shit

Ukraine vtubers csncelling filian.
REGENDarySumanai said:
If this is because she's friends with Alana, then WePlay Studios are bigger retards because Alana is Russo-Ukrainian (even though genetically, they are the same, see India/Pakistan/Bangladesh).
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Boycott these racists vtubers
 

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theapropos said:
Hey ukraine. Why not ban youtube and google since they still platform russians?
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Do you actually think that’s the Ukrainian government you fucking retard.

merpalerpaherp said:
So this company that worked on Filian's award show is mad she platformed a Russian girl.
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The woman is directly involved with the war effort, so it’s unfair to call her an ordinary or random Russian. It’s still gay to kick Fillian if she didn’t know, but if she did, more power to them. L/A
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Cheese_lad said:
The woman is directly involved with the war effort, so it’s unfair to call her an ordinary or random Russian. It’s still gay to kick Fillian if she didn’t know, but if she did, more power to them. L/A
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The insanity of thinking someone can/should just quit their job and give up their livelyhood is retarded. It is even more retarded to think that way about people living in a not so free nation.
 
Cheese_lad said:
It’s literally the first line. Even then you don’t have to care about all issues equally. I don’t remember Asmongold being a Ztard.
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Profile location: Inglewood, CA.
Asmondgold has ben a major proponent of not funding Ukraine since the war began. I'm sure theres thousands of clips.
At least know what you're talking about.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
Profile location: Inglewood, CA.
Asmondgold has ben a major proponent of not funding Ukraine since the war began. I'm sure theres thousands of clips.
At least know what you're talking about.
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That’s very different than making guns, bombs, tanks, etc for the Russian military. We’re comparing Apples to Oranges. Also just cause they’re not baised in Ukraine doesn’t mean they don’t have a lot of Ukrainian employees, founders, clients, etc.
 
Cheese_lad said:
That’s very different than making guns, bombs, tanks, etc for the Russian military. We’re comparing Apples to Oranges.
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Holy shit, you're an actual retard.
There is no difference in either argument if your point is to argue not working with people because they've spoken to someone once vs someone pushing the narrative Ukraine should recieve zero American weapons for years.
You're against it all or none, not whichever one gives you an out of your shitty little moral fag argument.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
Holy shit, you're an actual retard.
There is no difference in either argument if your point is to argue not working with people because they've spoken to someone once vs someone pushing the narrative Ukraine should recieve zero American weapons for years.
You're against it all or none, not whichever one gives you an out of your shitty little moral fag argument.
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I’m saying the act of making weapons for the war is worse than dying aid. It’s reasonable that some could have a much bigger problem with one than the other, and not want to associate or do business with friends / associates of that person. Me personally I’m against all that shit. I could still be friends with a no aid person, but not with a weapons manufacturer for the Russians. I would do guilt by association, but I’m not them.
 
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I’m saying the act of making weapons for the war is worse than dying aid. It’s reasonable that some could have a much bigger problem with one than the other, and not want to associate or do business with friends / associates of that person. Me personally I’m against all that shit. I could still be friends with a no aid person, but not with a weapons manufacturer for the Russians. I would do guilt by association, but I’m not them.
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A.) There's no harm in talking to people, given it was one time in this specific situation that by no means constitutes any sort of relationship.
B.) Cancel culture, censorship, moral fags are always fags regardless of the issue and/or side. Congrats, that's you.
C.) There is no point arguing the ethical point of making the weapons or supplying aid to defend them when in this scenario so we can lay your dumbfuck contradictions out.

Company A loves working with Person A, they work with multiple of A's companies, friends etc. Person A's the shining pinned tweet on their page. Person A has been a major mouthpiece in not giving Ukraine any money, weapons, anything at all and thinks they just be steamrolled if they can't defend themselves.

Company A is hired by Person B who is also an employee of Person A's company to work on a smaller project. Person B then interacts with Person C a Russian citizen who may or may not currently work for a Russian defense company for 3 hours; Person is then dropped by Company A for supporting the Russian war effort a month or so later.

If you're going to play into the moral fag war, at least don't be a hypocrite. That's my main thing.
 
theapropos said:
Ukraine vtubers csncelling filian.

Boycott these racists vtubers
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  1. Link & archive your posts please
  2. Not your personal army
  3. I'm not surprised Ukrainians are mad over this, especially if she's open about being a government employee. That context is pretty important.
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  5. Filian needs to grow up a little & recognize she can't please everyone. I like Filian but to be so ignorant as to associate with someone who is pro government & supports the war with Ukraine while working with a Ukrainian company & not think you're gonna get backlash over this is ignorant & childish logic. If she didn't know that ahead of time, that's something she should have looked into before hand. If you don't vet people you collab with don't be surprised if it bites you in the ass afterwards because you're skating on thin ice doing that.
  6. Filian also needs to treat her job like a proper business & not like some side gig at a fast food joint if she doesn't want to loose everything she's worked for. She's reached an audience of people that the overwhelming majority of regular streamers don't have, let alone vtubers.
She doesn't need to pick a side, but she needs to be more aware of shit. You can be apolitical all you want but politics still happen in the real world & you will get dragged into it regardless. If you don't want to make an ass of yourself, learn before hand.
Bindo said:
God, I wish Putler would just sack up and level Kiev. At this point if I have have to listen the kvetching of another whiny, faggot Ukrainian again, it will be too soon.
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I hear more pro-russian fags bitch about this shit than Ukrainians. Putin's a retard that swung his dick around thinking Ukraine was gonna just roll over & get fucked in the ass cause pro-russian retards are so high off their own cope & obsessed with man ass.
 
Gatcha Gonna Getcha said:
She doesn't need to pick a side, but she needs to be more aware of shit. You can be apolitical all you want but politics still happen in the real world & you will get dragged into it regardless. If you don't want to make an ass of yourself, learn before hand.
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This is what is inherently wrong with the internet. Not everything is political or needs to be looked at through a political lens. This is the type of dumbfuckery logic that makes people not to want to joke about anything spicy and needs to stop being engaged with.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
This is what is inherently wrong with the internet. Not everything is political or needs to be looked at through a political lens. This is the type of dumbfuckery logic that makes people not to want to joke about anything spicy and needs to stop being engaged with.
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The Internet is part of the real world retard. Filian isn't just some abstraction from reality that only exists separate from it like a cartoon. She is owned & piloted by a real person who interacts, collabs, & signs contracts with real people. She can say or do whatever she wants but the consequences will affect her regardless of how many times she *UwU*'s or eto bleh's into the camera.

If I'm a Christian & I hire some vtuber to work for my company & then find out they've said things that go against my values as a Christian, I would cut ties with them & make an announcement about it to provide transparency. What I wouldn't do is shrug my shoulders & go "oh well they're a vtuber, it can't be helped". Taking a stance & making a tough financial decision isn't "moral fagging" it's the difference between having principles & being a greedy corpo shill. The only people moral fagging are the ones crying about this being racist & that Ukrainians need to be bombed over this shit.
 
Gatcha Gonna Getcha said:
The Internet is part of the real world retard. Filian isn't just some abstraction from reality that only exists separate from it like a cartoon. She is owned & piloted by a real person who interacts, collabs, & signs contracts with real people. She can say or do whatever she wants but the consequences will affect her regardless of how many times she *UwU*'s or eto bleh's into the camera.

If I'm a Christian & I hire some vtuber to work for my company & then find out they've said things that go against my values as a Christian, I would cut ties with them & make an announcement about it to provide transparency. What I wouldn't do is shrug my shoulders & go "oh well they're a vtuber, it can't be helped". Taking a stance & making a tough financial decision isn't "moral fagging" it's the difference between having principles & being a greedy corpo shill. The only people moral fagging are the ones crying about this being racist & that Ukrainians need to be bombed over this shit.
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Okay there's really an easy way to make you change everything you just said.
Go upload on Youtube saying "I'm X and this is my Kiwi Farms post history."
If everything on the internet needs to be translated unilateraly to real life you'll have no issue there.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
Okay there's really an easy way to make you change everything you just said.
Go upload on Youtube saying "I'm X and this is my Kiwi Farms post history."
If everything on the internet needs to be translated unilateraly to real life you'll have no issue there.
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How does this "change" anything if the general sentiment of Kiwi Farms from the public is that it is a bad place, for one reason or another? What are you even saying?
 
Gatcha Gonna Getcha said:
How does this "change" anything if the general sentiment of Kiwi Farms from the public is that it is a bad place, for one reason or another? What are you even saying?
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That the internet is not real life and not everything here applies there. If it applied there, everything we say here would also apply there. There wouldn't be a layer between the two worlds.
Now, you do have a point in that it's a more public forum, the whole reasoning for whatever started it I don't care about.

My main points are fuck fun sucking twats and hypocrites. We're talking about a company happy to work with Asmongold, and also publically denounce someone represented by his company for just speaking to a Russian girl. That's my point, they're hypocrites. I do not carehow the situation ends nor do I care about Ukraine and Russia. The twitter flags can fight all they about that shit. I'm merely making the point of their actions are not completely honest or full of integrity.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
That the internet is not real life and not everything here applies there. If it applied there, everything we say here would also apply there. There wouldn't be a layer between the two worlds.
Now, you do have a point in that it's a more public forum, the whole reasoning for whatever started it I don't care about.
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If you don't think people are affected by the things they say & do on the Internet while simultaneously saying this
merpalerpaherp said:
This is what is inherently wrong with the internet. Not everything is political or needs to be looked at through a political lens. This is the type of dumbfuckery logic that makes people not to want to joke about anything spicy and needs to stop being engaged with.
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I don't know what to tell you. People on the right in general, people on this forum, even Null has bitched about cancel culture for years now. There was a story about some lady working at a Home Depot that got fired over her comments about the first Trump assassination attempt & that was totally cool & based because she's a libtard. Things you say & do on the Internet have a real world impact on your life & the lives of others.
merpalerpaherp said:
My main points are fuck fun sucking twats and hypocrites. We're talking about a company happy to work with Asmongold, and also publically denounce someone represented by his company for just speaking to a Russian girl. That's my point, they're hypocrites. I do not carehow the situation ends nor do I care about Ukraine and Russia. The twitter flags can fight all they about that shit. I'm merely making the point of their actions are not completely honest or full of integrity.
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Illuminate me, because you brought this up twice now; how is Asmongold comparable to this situation? Don't tell me "there's thousands of clips" don't tell me to "look it up myself", show me how these two are the same & that this company is acting hypocritical. Are they even aware of this anti-Ukraine stance Asmon has? What has Asmon said or done that's anti-Ukraine, & how is it the same as what Filian's being accused of?
 
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