Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

The best part of Renegades was what happened to the second episode. Right after the first one was released, the Axanar lawsuit and the new fan film guidelines hit. So the crew filed off all the serial numbers--rename the aliens, redesign the spaceships, take off Tim Russ's ears, it's the Confederation now, etc., and call it Renegades: the Series.

Which I've long thought is what all fanfic types should do. If you're putting your own spin on things anyway, why go all the way and make it something you can own?
 
Which I've long thought is what all fanfic types should do. If you're putting your own spin on things anyway, why go all the way and make it something you can own?
Because they're fans and want to play in the same sandbox. It's also harder to create a new IP, distinguish yourself from the inspirational material, and get anyone interested in your Not Star Trek stories. Then there's the fact that major companies are litigious and will sue you for similarities, for non-profit passion fan projects - anything, really, if they think it will take money away from them.

Politisperg ahead: it's a reason I laugh my ass off when major companies piss and moan about Trump suing them over petty shit because they do the same thing to everyone else. Fuck em. Politisperg over.

Although, now that Nu Trek is absolute dogshit, it's quite possible that someone could make a Star Trek-like IP and make a killing as long as it doesn't totally suck and as long as it doesn't get dinged for copyright infringement.
 
Never said it would be easy to build an audience that way, but I will point out that one of the tenets of copyright law is that concepts cannot be copyrighted, only the specific execution.

It's why, for example, the Discovery could be sent forward to a bleak future even though that was the whole point of "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda." Or how "man forced to never stay in one spot too long does what he can to help people along the way" describes Richard Kimble, David Banner, and Sam Beckett. Philip J. Fry is Buck Rogers. It's all in the details.
 
And yet Bakula thought the Quantum Leap revival wasn't worth signing on to.

Yes there was a QL revival, yes it was full of soy and AIDS and current year. The lead actor was pretty hot tho.
I'm glad I pay so little attention to this that if you hadn't mentioned it here I would never have heard of it at all.
 
I'm glad I pay so little attention to this that if you hadn't mentioned it here I would never have heard of it at all.
The reboot was hilarious because I could easily spot bot accounts trying to get zoomers into it.

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New Wesley Spinoff idea, I'm thinking Star Trek 90's Sitcom.
Is it possible we could have a show where you just have Wil Wheaton saying stupid shit, immediately being slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up, and then he starts crying, and then gets slapped for crying?

Please, I'd watch this show of Wil Wheaton just being constantly slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up.
 
Is it possible we could have a show where you just have Wil Wheaton saying stupid shit, immediately being slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up, and then he starts crying, and then gets slapped for crying?

Please, I'd watch this show of Wil Wheaton just being constantly slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up.
Too bad, all we know in canon is that he's a chomo in some park near San Francisco now.

Wil Wheaton might still look like he's a doughy 25 year old, but the Traveller likes his twinks to look very young.
 
Is it possible we could have a show where you just have Wil Wheaton saying stupid shit, immediately being slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up, and then he starts crying, and then gets slapped for crying?

Please, I'd watch this show of Wil Wheaton just being constantly slapped in the face and being told to shut the fuck up.
No stage or pantomime slaps either, it’s all the burliest stuntmen they can get doing it full force.
 
>be me
>first mission as Marine Raider coming up
>we're tasked with going after a growing pirate syndicate in the Argolis cluster
>training for the mission is really intense
>constant drills, over and over again in the holodeck, so many variables thrown in from IEDs to civilian hostage situations to running into Jem'Hadar to NOTHING
>in one of the training missions, there was literally NOTHING in the ship, it was a husk like some kind of horror vid
>other Raiders give me the cold shoulder for some reason, not sure why at first
>turns out CPT Love Slave hand-picking me for her unit bumped another guy that the other Raiders really, really wanted to get a slot in the program
>the other Raiders are incredible at their job but it comes at the cost of their social skills
>too many of them behave like first years in Starfleet
>have to deal with constant passive-aggressive antics while training
>in one of the training sims, I say "can we just mousehole it?" when a bulkhead gets in the way of progressing through a ship
>one of the Raiders loudly and sarcastically replies "I DON'T KNOW, CAAAAAN YOU?"
>when other Raiders aren't working, they're overindulging in alcohol, using felicium, and talking WAY too openly about their jobs on subspace
>bring this up to CPT Love Slave, she tells me not to worry about it and focus on myself
>T'lana, these people are fucking crazy
>"I know, Gunnery Sergeant."
>realize that she's in over her head, too
>day of the raid on pirate ship arrives
>pirates using civilian transport ships to cover what they're doing
>fake transponders, tweaking engines to make smaller ships look like freighters, fake registrations, the works
>told to expect heavily-armed resistance
>I'm sweating bullets because the people I'm working with right now are lunatics or lunatic-adjacent
>everything from the briefing to ship approach goes 100% by the numbers, flawless, a work of fucking art
>then we have to actually board the ship
>first man in modified his phaser rifle into a scattershot without telling anyone
>fires immediately once he gets inside the ship, decapitating one guy and seriously wounding another
>element of surprise ruined, firefight ensues
>pirate captain activates self-destruct and we have to rush to the bridge to stop it or else the whole mission is a wash
>CPT Love Slave takes me and one other dude on a mad dash, pirates are desperate to go down with the ship
>manage to reach bridge with time to spare
>waste the pirates left in the bridge, CPT Love Slave easily overrides self-destruct because it's a shitty guinea-rigged civilian ship
>mission is technically a success, recover the ship
>pirate captain erased a lot of data from the bridge but the ship is sent to the data recovery nerds
>lose a few Raiders in the operation, Starfleet wants an explanation
>Scattershot McGillicutty survived the mission, claims he was shot at first, muh self defense, get off my back
>his clique defends him to the hilt and they try to say CPT Love Slave froze up so the team went to finish the mission
>CPT Love Slave says Scattershot McGillicutty ruined the operation
>Starfleet backs up CPT Love Slave's report, points out that badge data showed CPT Love Slave, one other dude, and me getting to the bridge and accomplishing the mission while the others went around hunting down pirates
>Scattershot McGillicutty and his clique spend the next several weeks stringing along the investigation, COL in charge of entire regiment desperate to cover it up
>Starfleet internal affairs is pissed because they were lied to, but Starfleet intelligence data recovery nerds managed to get most of the erased data back and uncover pirate operations across the whole sector
>Scattershot McGillicutty quietly removed from regiment for "PTSD" and a few in his clique given NJPs
>I get promoted to MSGT and become Ops Sgt

what did I get myself into
 
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It was also weird how the final battle was between him and Sisko even though neither of them had really seen each other since "Waltz". Hell, Kira and Worf have more reasons to hate him than Sisko does.
From a couple pages back, but you know, I’d never really even thought about this and you’re right. They ought to have had Winn get possessed by the Pah Wraiths and go all evil space witch for Sisko to face while having a simultaneous fight to the death between Worf and Dukat. I can already picture it: It begins on the lower level and progresses across and up the promenade until it culminates with Worf throwing Dukat from the top balcony in Quark’s. He comes crashing down onto the dabo table, Quark slowly peeks up from where he’s been hiding behind the bar and looks from Dukat’s body up to the balcony where we get a shot of Worf looking down in grim satisfaction before giving one of those Klingon roars.

Really I just would’ve liked to have seen Worf get his get back for his dead wife.
 
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>in one of the training sims, I say "can we just mousehole it?" when a bulkhead gets in the way of progressing through a ship
>one of the Raiders loudly and sarcastically replies "I DON'T KNOW, CAAAAAN YOU?"
>when other Raiders aren't working, they're overindulging in alcohol, using felicium, and talking WAY too openly about their jobs on subspace
>bring this up to CPT Love Slave, she tells me not to worry about it and focus on myself
Fucking kek.
>first man in modified his phaser rifle into a scattershot without telling anyone
>fires immediately once he gets inside the ship, decapitating one guy and seriously wounding another
>element of surprise ruined, firefight ensues
Everyone regardless of profession knows a guy like that.
>Scattershot McGillicutty quietly removed from regiment for "PTSD" and a few in his clique given NJPs
>I get promoted to MSGT and become Ops Sgt
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>tfw asked what the fuck happened

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This is the reason why I come here, lol.
 
This was such an underrated show.
Absolutely, and we can thank God it's still on youtube in one form or another. If the current year idiots running Trek had been smart, there would be a Sharpe-type show about mobile infantry grunts doing mobile infantry shenanigans during the Federation-Klingon war or the conflicts with the Cardassians. But nope.
 
Absolutely, and we can thank God it's still on youtube in one form or another. If the current year idiots running Trek had been smart, there would be a Sharpe-type show about mobile infantry grunts doing mobile infantry shenanigans during the Federation-Klingon war or the conflicts with the Cardassians. But nope.
I've taken some inspiration from the US special operations community thread for this Marine Raider arc.
 
I've taken some inspiration from the US special operations community thread for this Marine Raider arc.
What an illustrous group, actually. I didn't realise we had a thread about these edgelords.

E: I'm kinda glad the KSK only thinks about couping the government once in a while, and they're too retarded about it. Yeah, the spirit of the Waffen-SS is mostly dead, despite it meandering on in the Congo wars and some other places. Those dudes are now unfortunately either dead or too senile...
 
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You know what would have been a kino last arc for DS9?

>cardassia has been pacified
>the Female Changeling is under arrest and en route to a secure prison
>oh what's this? Kai Winn has been willingly possessed by the Pah-wraiths?
>she successfully does that technobabble thing Not Bitch Keiko was going to do to destroy the wormhole
>this goes sideways somehow
>4000 Jem Hadar warships pour out of the Wormhole
>Gul Dukat is at the head
>he broadcasts to DS9, "BENJAMIN! WATCH YOUR BELOVED BAJOR GET DESTROYED!"
>Sisko has to go out in the Defiant and lure Gul Dukat's flagship into the Wormhole where they have to have a battle of egos while the Prophets watch
>Sisko wins and Dukat dies finally

Now THAT would have been awesome.
 
You know what would have been a kino last arc for DS9?

>cardassia has been pacified
>the Female Changeling is under arrest and en route to a secure prison
>oh what's this? Kai Winn has been willingly possessed by the Pah-wraiths?
>she successfully does that technobabble thing Not Bitch Keiko was going to do to destroy the wormhole
>this goes sideways somehow
>4000 Jem Hadar warships pour out of the Wormhole
>Gul Dukat is at the head
>he broadcasts to DS9, "BENJAMIN! WATCH YOUR BELOVED BAJOR GET DESTROYED!"
>Sisko has to go out in the Defiant and lure Gul Dukat's flagship into the Wormhole where they have to have a battle of egos while the Prophets watch
>Sisko wins and Dukat dies finally

Now THAT would have been awesome.
The lost Dominion fleet could be a very, very interesting plot device.
 
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