Dramacow Michael Christopher Martin & Heather Lynn Martin /DaddyOFive/MommyOFive/FamilyOFive / MikeMartin1982 - now DaddyOOne, serving 5 years probation for child neglect, doesn't know when to quit

[Staffy]

I remember everyone here told that this site is no vigilante group while everyone's involvement in Nick Bate back then says otherwise.

Or some of you guys are scared of having a second Vordrak situation?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

“but we’re having a hard time because many were removed or blocked” and were filmed indoors, making it difficult to determine the location in Maryland.

This sounds like they act like idiots ON PURPOSE because they are already re-uploads.

 

[HG 400]

I remember everyone here told that this site is no vigilante group while everyone's involvement in Nick Bate back then says otherwise.

Or some of you guys are scared of having a second Vordrak situation?

- Nick Bate was funny. Mailing poop porn to the police to prove you're not pedo is funny.
- We had nothing to do with his arrest.
- We had nothing to do with his conviction.
- We doxed one of his stalking victims bc we are amoral shitheads.
- Nobody's scared of Vordrak.
- Nobody's scared of Vordrak 2 ; Electric Boogaloo.
- DaddyOFive is not a lolcow.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

- DaddyOFive is not a lolcow.

You don't say?

Yeah I'm sorry, this guy's world collapsed on his head and he deleted everything. This is definitely a lolcow thread.

 

[HG 400]

You don't say?

Null is wrong. If deleting shit because it caused a massive moral outrage makes you a lolcow, I can name about a dozen corporations that qualify off the top of my head.

 

[InLivingTuna]

- We had nothing to do with his arrest.
- We had nothing to do with his conviction.

I honestly don't think Kiwis are going to have any influence getting Mike Martin in jail, if that ever happens. It'll mostly come down to the archive.org backups. Nick Monroe sent them to the relevant police departments, and I'm sure all the various anons across the internet have too, so we'll have to wait and see on that development.

 

[thismanlies]

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Given the avalanche of shit that's been falling on them, I bet they'll break themselves trying to get people to like them.

 

[pr3nt177]

I'm not from America so excuse my ignorance but I take it there are different laws county to county -is that why they can't just go in and charge them or whatever ie don't the county's work with one another when a suspected crime has been committed?

 

[Barracuda Joe]

I'm not from America so excuse my ignorance but I take it there are different laws county to county -is that why they can't just go in and charge them or whatever ie don't the county's work with one another when a suspected crime has been committed?

That's the thing, unless we're dealing with something absolutely abhorrent "hostage situations etc", police can't be sent in unless there's solid reason to believe a crime was committed in the first place. Sometimes it feels like our rules on the matter really work against us, but it's all about making sure we don't have police sent out over rumors and baseless ill-speak.

Edit: Unannounced raids are only permitted if it's believed that any evidence of crime can be eliminated or a crime actually can be committed in the time police take to announce themselves. That's a "No-Knock" Warrant.

Also, our County Sheriff and Police offices aren't exactly famous for seamless cooperation. A good example is the city below me having a smaller legal province "Chapmantown", within itself, which caused Chapmantown to become a hive of crime, as on top of insufficient police forces in the area, there was no rights given to the Chico police to intervene to handle misdoings.

Edit: I quoted myself and double posted. Fucking end me my dudes.

 

[HG 400]

why they can't just go in and charge them or whatever

Because making spastics on the internet mad isn't actually a crime.

 

[pr3nt177]

@ Barracuda Joe - Thanks for the info. I shouldn't have typed "charge them" I really meant for questioning, sorry.

I just don't want to see this couple getting away with anything by prepping the kids and rehearsing their stories too much etc before being interviewed. I've watched most of the videos and I can't put into words how sickening the whole thing is.

Because making spastics on the internet mad isn't actually a crime.

Yeah I used the wrong phrase, meant to type "for questioning".

 

[Staffy]

- Nick Bate was funny. Mailing poop porn to the police to prove you're not pedo is funny.
- We had nothing to do with his arrest.
- We had nothing to do with his conviction.
- We doxed one of his stalking victims bc we are amoral shitheads.

Thanks fot clearing that up.


So that part where someone was sent close to where Nick's trial took place was nothing much else?

 

[Erica]

I'm not from America so excuse my ignorance but I take it there are different laws county to county -is that why they can't just go in and charge them or whatever ie don't the county's work with one another when a suspected crime has been committed?[

That's the thing, unless we're dealing with something absolutely abhorrent "hostage situations etc", police can't be sent in unless there's solid reason to believe a crime was committed in the first place. Sometimes it feels like our rules on the matter really work against us, but it's all about making sure we don't have police sent out over rumors and baseless ill-speak.

Edit: Unannounced raids are only permitted if it's believed that any evidence of crime can be eliminated or a crime actually can be committed in the time police take to announce themselves. That's a "No-Knock" Warrant.

Also, our County Sheriff and Police offices aren't exactly famous for seamless cooperation. A good example is the city below me having a smaller legal province "Chapmantown", within itself, which caused Chapmantown to become a hive of crime, as on top of insufficient police forces in the area, there was no rights given to the Chico police to intervene to handle misdoings.

Edit: I quoted myself and double posted. Fucking end me my dudes.

Also in order to intervene extremely quickly, I believe they have to prove that the children are in imminent danger, and all of their current actions suggest otherwise (even if it is by a PR firm).

I do not believe CPS would rehome the children even if an investigation goes in favor of the children's wellbeing. Not to dismiss the damage done, but child abuse cases can get significantly worse and the foster system is horribly flawed in the US. I do not think what we see in the YouTube videos is enough to convince CPS to roll the dice on a foster home.

Not to say CPS won't do anything. I believe they would assign the parents special classes or counseling. But the custody battle for Emma and Cody is likely the only avenue for those two to be removed from the home.

 

[InLivingTuna]

I'm not from America so excuse my ignorance but I take it there are different laws county to county -is that why they can't just go in and charge them or whatever ie don't the county's work with one another when a suspected crime has been committed?

You have to be arrested by the police department of the county you committed the crime in, this is because the laws vary from place to place in the US. Given the fact that they're looking over the videos, it implies that they suspect a crime has happened and are determining how to formally charge him.

 

[Ellinika]

Child abuse and neglect is how people like Chris and Nick bate are created. They would probably have turned out normally in loving and nurturing environments and today would be normal people.

What does the future hold for Cody? I really hope that he finds a good home, whether it is with his biological mother(although she has bipolar) or with his relatives.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

They're just rough-housing around like any normal family and the only people offended by this are ivory-tower liberals who've never set foot in the real world. It's amazing how much seething hatred and contempt you people have for the working class.

yeah i wouldn't go so far as to call this normal rough-housing but manchildren incompetent dipshit "tough love" parents who regularly traumatize their kids are pretty fucking common. the kid saying "at least you don't beat us" is actually reassuring, since that is a pretty important line not to cross. these parents might be clueless but the self-righteous liberals autistically screeching "child abuse!" and demanding these kids be taken from their families is pretty unhinged. that said, the guy seems as dumb as a pile of bricks and probably shouldn't have reproduced.

EDIT: ok I admit I fucked up with this one. these people are scum and should be ashamed. glad the kids aren't there anymore. i didn't have enough info (because i'm not really interested in this drama) to make an informed judgment about the situation but i was dumb to think that nobody else had enough info either.

 

[derpi]

Thanks fot clearing that up.


So that part where someone was sent close to where Nick's trial took place was nothing much else?

Someone went to observe and report back to us. Nothing more. Nick was finally caught because his sister spoke up about the abuse, not because of a forum of spastics contacting cps. /off topic

 

[Scratch This Nut]

yeah i wouldn't go so far as to call this normal rough-housing but manchildren incompetent dipshit "tough love" parents who regularly traumatize their kids are pretty fucking common. the kid saying "at least you don't beat us" is actually reassuring, since that is a pretty important line not to cross. these parents might be clueless but the self-righteous liberals autistically screeching "child abuse!" and demanding these kids be taken from their families is pretty unhinged. that said, the guy seems as dumb as a pile of bricks and probably shouldn't have reproduced.

I've read this at least five times and I'm still not sure what the hell you're trying to say. Well, for the most part. Not beating your kids is a pretty low bar to set, dude.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

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Is that going to be enough to stop this snowball effect? The invisible ink prank was pretty bad, but then it opened the avenues to the even worse videos. Also, is the firm doing it pro bono?

yeah i wouldn't go so far as to call this normal rough-housing but manchildren incompetent dipshit "tough love" parents who regularly traumatize their kids are pretty fucking common. the kid saying "at least you don't beat us" is actually reassuring, since that is a pretty important line not to cross. these parents might be clueless but the self-righteous liberals autistically screeching "child abuse!" and demanding these kids be taken from their families is pretty unhinged. that said, the guy seems as dumb as a pile of bricks and probably shouldn't have reproduced.

1-I guess slamming a kid into a bookshelf for no reason doesn't count as physical abuse.
2-Did you know: Emotional abuse is just as bad if not worse then physical abuse? The more you know.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

I've read this at least five times and I'm still not sure what the hell you're trying to say. Well, for the most part. Not beating your kids is a pretty low bar to set, dude.

fuck me was i hungover when i wrote that. i just mean i'm not sure the outrage is totally proportional. some parents are tough on their kids. that's probably how they were raised. i honestly just think these people are arrogant idiots not evil. they should treat their kids better but i'm not sure they should be dragged through the mud by internet hate mobs or have their kids taken. hopefully they will learn a lesson.

EDIT: ok I admit I fucked up with this one. these people are scum and should be ashamed. glad the kids aren't there anymore. i didn't have enough info (because i'm not really interested in this drama) to make an informed judgment about the situation but i was dumb to think that nobody else had enough info either.